RunRabbit wrote:I'm looking around for options for a 6.5 creedmoor in a shorter barrel and lighter stock for my wife to use when hunting. I've got a 308 and she is ok with it but since I'm getting her a new rifle, I figured the 6.5cm has a bit less recoil with very little disadvantages except a bit less energy and a bit more expensive ammo.
Are there many options around for 18-20" in that caliber? Anyone have recommendations of what's around to compare?
bladeracer wrote:RunRabbit wrote:I'm looking around for options for a 6.5 creedmoor in a shorter barrel and lighter stock for my wife to use when hunting. I've got a 308 and she is ok with it but since I'm getting her a new rifle, I figured the 6.5cm has a bit less recoil with very little disadvantages except a bit less energy and a bit more expensive ammo.
Are there many options around for 18-20" in that caliber? Anyone have recommendations of what's around to compare?
If you want something short perhaps just buy a rifle you like and shorten it to suit, I doubt it's expensive on a rifle without sights - in Qld I think you would have to have it done by an armourer? You, or your wife, may find the muzzle blast obnoxious from a short barrel that you mount a muzzle device and lose what you gained in shortening it to begin with. In Qld you can still have folding stocks can't you? That makes a 22" rifle very compact indeed for moving through bush but generally requires some sort of chassis rather than a conventional stock.
Recoil will come down to bullet mass and velocity, lighter bullets at lower velocities in the .308 would have similar recoil to the 6.5CM with the same bullet weights at the same velocities. Factory loads with 150gn bullets in .308 run around 2800fps usually, factory 6.5mm Creedmoor 147gn loads run round 2700fps so there's not much difference in recoil. With a lighter Creedmoor rifle it might actually have more perceived recoil than a heavier .308 rifle. Hornady do reduced loads, like 125gn .308's at 2675fps which would probably have less recoil than standard 6.5mm Creedmoor loads.
I'd have a look at the Ruger American and Howa 1500, but there are plenty of others. Determine which rifle you prefer then shorten the barrel to suit, don't go chasing a short barrel to end up with a rifle you might not enjoy shooting.
RunRabbit wrote:There are a heap of options for .308s in shorter barrels that wouldn't require any cutting down. That might be a better option with lighter projectiles for reducing recoil.
SCJ429 wrote:Why not get her a rifle in 6.5 Grendel, very mild to shoot, super accurate. The shorter barrel will not knock it around too much and it is a capable hunting rig at reasonable ranges.
deye243 wrote:SCJ429 wrote:Why not get her a rifle in 6.5 Grendel, very mild to shoot, super accurate. The shorter barrel will not knock it around too much and it is a capable hunting rig at reasonable ranges.
Ammo availability?????
deye243 wrote:SCJ429 wrote:Why not get her a rifle in 6.5 Grendel, very mild to shoot, super accurate. The shorter barrel will not knock it around too much and it is a capable hunting rig at reasonable ranges.
Ammo availability?????
SCJ429 wrote:deye243 wrote:SCJ429 wrote:Why not get her a rifle in 6.5 Grendel, very mild to shoot, super accurate. The shorter barrel will not knock it around too much and it is a capable hunting rig at reasonable ranges.
Ammo availability?????
What??????????? Are you telling me there are people out there who are incapable of reloading¿
This is why everyone should shoot 223 or 308.
SCJ429 wrote:deye243 wrote:SCJ429 wrote:Why not get her a rifle in 6.5 Grendel, very mild to shoot, super accurate. The shorter barrel will not knock it around too much and it is a capable hunting rig at reasonable ranges.
Ammo availability?????
What??????????? Are you telling me there are people out there who are incapable of reloading¿
This is why everyone should shoot 223 or 308.
deye243 wrote:SCJ429 wrote:deye243 wrote:SCJ429 wrote:Why not get her a rifle in 6.5 Grendel, very mild to shoot, super accurate. The shorter barrel will not knock it around too much and it is a capable hunting rig at reasonable ranges.
Ammo availability?????
What??????????? Are you telling me there are people out there who are incapable of reloading¿
This is why everyone should shoot 223 or 308.
Most definitely is why I shoot on my own but seriously how many factory rifles are chambered for that cartridge and how much factory ammo can you get the OP never mentioned anything about handloading or reloading the way components are these days I suppose he can get Peterson brass I'm sure the lapua make this now at well north of 200 250 bucks 100 .
SCJ429 wrote:Yes, I forget that people buy loaded ammo and not for a rimfire. It is like people who cannot operate a clutch in their car. ¿
SCJ429 wrote:I have rifles chambered in 6 & 7mm BR Norma which are hunting rigs. These are very effective hunting calibres used in the correct application
in2anity wrote:SCJ429 wrote:I have rifles chambered in 6 & 7mm BR Norma which are hunting rigs. These are very effective hunting calibres used in the correct application
What's your definition of "correct application" here then? 300m and just ignore the wind completely?
SCJ429 wrote:You might be surprised that with lighter 110 to 120 grain bullets the 7mm BR has 90% of the performance of your 308. So the answer is whatever you would try to do with a 308 using that weight of bullet.