djmm wrote:Currently I got 22lr for indoor target up to 50m.
Thinking to start going to outdoor range and eventually do 500m range or so.
Haven't got the rifle yet but thinking either 223 or 243 calibre. Which one do you think would be more suitable? Cheers
Lazarus wrote:I've used a .223 at 400m with 70gn Nosler RDF, groups averaged 1 1/4"
djmm wrote:Thanks for the inputs so far, sorry guys forgot to mention, i dont reload, factory ammo only
animalpest wrote:Lazarus wrote:I've used a .223 at 400m with 70gn Nosler RDF, groups averaged 1 1/4"
Not too shabby to get an average of 0.3 MOA at 400 with a .223.
in2anity wrote:nuthin wrong with the 223 for target shooting. Sure it's not mainstream in benchrest circle jerks, but with perceverance and a good overall package including quality, reproducable ammo, it goes great out to middle distance. I regularly use the highly economical 223 for Service Rifle matches; i shoot cheap 55gr sierras at 100m offhand, 69gr SMKs for 200m and 300m service matches, and then switch to 80.5gr Bergers for untimed, single feed application matches (or longer distances on the fullbore range). https://youtu.be/jUmqjsDNfwg
Lazarus wrote:I've used a .223 at 400m with 70gn Nosler RDF, groups averaged 1 1/4"
djmm wrote:Thanks for the inputs so far, sorry guys forgot to mention, i dont reload, factory ammo only
djmm wrote:Thanks for the inputs so far, sorry guys forgot to mention, i dont reload, factory ammo only
Baronvonrort wrote:djmm wrote:Thanks for the inputs so far, sorry guys forgot to mention, i dont reload, factory ammo only
I have heard i don't reload before along with i only need a small safe for 1-2 rifles most of the time this changes.
Nothing to fear with reloading on a tight budget lots of decent second hand gear out there haggling ability could make it even cheaper.
Shooting over 300 then BC of projectile becomes a factor. It's not just for bullet drop it also impacts how far the wind will push it sideways.
Some rounds are more accurate than others because the projectiles they shoot have a higher BC which means wind doesn't blow them around as much.
Select a calibre then look for a quality rifle in your budget.
This chart might help the lower the MOA the more accurate that round will be when comparing.
A .223 could be good along with 7mm-08 then something bigger like 28 Nosler which is similsr to 7mm RUM
bladeracer wrote:Agreed, get a price on a thousand rounds of .308Win match ammo and decide how seriously you want to shoot factory ammo.
djmm wrote:Update on this - it turned out the rifle I want wasn't available in 243 version, and the 223 was version wasn't exactly what I wanted. Ended up putting deposit on the 308 win version - might be overkill and more cost for ammo but I guess at least I won't need to look for another upgrade so quick.
in2anity wrote:Sickening to think what that would now cost. In a 2021 Queens, a SH shooter decided he was gonna run the Tikka TAC-A1 thingy in 6.5cm... with factory Hornady Match ammo. The quality required to be competative in such an event.
The bloke paid $75/20 box multiplied by eleven boxes - so $825 worth of ammo required just to compete (let alone the cost of practice leading up to the event). Then the entry fee on top was $175 or similar. So it effectively cost him $1000 to shoot that queens. The poor bastard had the event win slip through his fingers on the VERY last stage of day three, due to a couple of inner-4s from nerves. Very expensive mistake considering there was considerable prize money on the line.
He now handloads after that little escapade. Be smart people.