AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:Good afternoon gents
Wondering if any of you have come across the following is this something new does anyone have any pointers perhaps. Fyi i already have a sporter 308.
BMW wrote:They were also of the opinion that no person has any justification for owning 28 cat b firearms.
BMW wrote:Pretty standard now in S.A. my last pta was for a 470NE double. The pta went back to firearms branch 11 times before it was approved. Took 6 months. They kept saying I have a 460WBY and therefore have no justification for owning any other cat b's for purpose of use hunting. Had to join a big game club 800kms from where I live and apply for purpose of use, hunting, club use and target shooting. They were also of the opinion that no person has any justification for owning 28 cat b firearms
Die Judicii wrote:There are so many women working in WLB nowadays,,,,,,,,, I'd be tempted to ring them and (if u get a woman) talk to her about the "no justification",,,, and then ask her,, How many rings and necklaces do you have love ???
GQshayne wrote:I have not had any recent PTA's done. But I have three .243's, two of them are BLR's. The original .243 was owned prior to any gun laws, but both BLR's were obtained via PTA, and neither were question. My dad also has two .243's and one was bought in the last 12 months and not questioned.
Most of us do not have the money to do so, but this sounds like a good reason to take legal action. They have no right to do this. But without creating further issues, I would be requesting a written advice showing cause as to why it was rejected.
Fionn wrote:BMW wrote:They were also of the opinion that no person has any justification for owning 28 cat b firearms.
I and most people would agree with that if your reason for owning them was hunting.
BMW wrote:Fionn wrote:BMW wrote:They were also of the opinion that no person has any justification for owning 28 cat b firearms.
I and most people would agree with that if your reason for owning them was hunting.
But it's not your business or anybody else's is it? It's between me and firearms branch. Incidentally I also own double that in cat A firearms registered for hunting, I can buy another 60 tomorrow and tick the box on the pta that says hunting and every pta will come back approved within 3 days. Now put that in your anti-firearms pipe and smoke it.
BMW wrote:Dead right BR. I simply love firearms, I am an enthusiast. Hell I've bought firearms 30 years ago that I've never actually fired. Non shooters like this fionn chap will never understand the passion I have. I'm 49 years old and might live another 10 or so, why should I go the rest of my life without buying another centerfire, simply not going to happen. Guys here in S.A. are giving up after only 4 or 5 attempts at a pta. Just what our new superintendent in charge of firearms wants. His first speech when he took over went something along the lines of: "South Australian shooters have had it to good for too long. This ends now." And so began the practice here of sending all cat b ptas back to the applicant for 'further justification'.
womble wrote:So perhaps some advice on how Azza can word his application might be more useful than this mothers club hen fight.
Can we try than instead ladies
womble wrote:I don’t own heaps but that’s probably because I’ve somehow convinced myself that I can definitely get another in that safe if I have to.
But I think shooters who’ve invested more than me would have their favourite calibers and will have invested a lot of time and money into those calibers. All the reloading knowledge and equipment etc.
And you’re likely to own a few rifles in the particular calibers you favour and they’re all going to be set up differently for how you intend to use them.
And having plod micro managing your hobbies and interests is going to cause you endless frustration unless you learn how to speak his language.
So perhaps some advice on how Azza can word his application might be more useful than this mothers club hen fight.
Can we try than instead ladies
Larry wrote:GQshayne wrote:I have not had any recent PTA's done. But I have three .243's, two of them are BLR's. The original .243 was owned prior to any gun laws, but both BLR's were obtained via PTA, and neither were question. My dad also has two .243's and one was bought in the last 12 months and not questioned.
Most of us do not have the money to do so, but this sounds like a good reason to take legal action. They have no right to do this. But without creating further issues, I would be requesting a written advice showing cause as to why it was rejected.
The issue is that they do have a right to knock back PTAs and a policy and a guideline on the reasons to do it.
AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:womble wrote:I don’t own heaps but that’s probably because I’ve somehow convinced myself that I can definitely get another in that safe if I have to.
But I think shooters who’ve invested more than me would have their favourite calibers and will have invested a lot of time and money into those calibers. All the reloading knowledge and equipment etc.
And you’re likely to own a few rifles in the particular calibers you favour and they’re all going to be set up differently for how you intend to use them.
And having plod micro managing your hobbies and interests is going to cause you endless frustration unless you learn how to speak his language.
So perhaps some advice on how Azza can word his application might be more useful than this mothers club hen fight.
Can we try than instead ladies
Shooters Union will have a template for me on monday for me to fill in they seemed genuinely interested wanting to know all the details even had a fair old chat about my 303s.
Apparently it is on the rise with Wa having paperwork in the works for a max 10 gun limit for licenced shooters. Moving forward with the whole thing I think I'll apply for my collectors licence just to stir the pot.
Thanks for bringing the chat back Womble
Plus ive just got another 2 mates into shooting with one just yesterday putting in his first ptas in we need to bring up our numbers as a whole and ditch the apathetic mentality all for one if we all jumpd on the band wagon wed all be in a much better place.
Fionn wrote:Die Judicii wrote:There are so many women working in WLB nowadays,,,,,,,,, I'd be tempted to ring them and (if u get a woman) talk to her about the "no justification",,,, and then ask her,, How many rings and necklaces do you have love ???
Rather silly comparison as you don't need permission from the government to buy rings and necklaces, but you do firearms.
You invite it to be public business when you post it on public discussion forum! if you don't want it to be peoples business then don't post the information on a public discussion forum.BMW wrote:But it's not your business or anybody else's is it? It's between me and firearms branch.
BMW wrote:Incidentally I also own double that in cat A firearms registered for hunting, I can buy another 60 tomorrow and tick the box on the pta that says hunting and every pta will come back approved within 3 days. Now put that in your anti-firearms pipe and smoke it.
BMW wrote:Dead right BR. I simply love firearms, I am an enthusiast. Hell I've bought firearms 30 years ago that I've never actually fired. Non shooters like this fionn chap will never understand the passion I have.
BMW wrote: I'm 49 years old and might live another 10 or so, why should I go the rest of my life without buying another centerfire, simply not going to happen. Guys here in S.A. are giving up after only 4 or 5 attempts at a pta. Just what our new superintendent in charge of firearms wants. His first speech when he took over went something along the lines of: "South Australian shooters have had it to good for too long. This ends now." And so began the practice here of sending all cat b ptas back to the applicant for 'further justification'.
Die Judicii wrote:Fionn wrote:Die Judicii wrote:There are so many women working in WLB nowadays,,,,,,,,, I'd be tempted to ring them and (if u get a woman) talk to her about the "no justification",,,, and then ask her,, How many rings and necklaces do you have love ???
Rather silly comparison as you don't need permission from the government to buy rings and necklaces, but you do firearms.
Said in jest of course, but you took it as serious.
But,,,,,,, reading between the lines I was implying the basic of,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Some people buy firearms because they like them,,, and why shouldn't they be able to,,,,, so long as it's done legally.
No difference as far as that's concerned to women buying jewelry,,,,,,, because they like diamonds.
Fionn wrote:Die Judicii wrote:Fionn wrote:Die Judicii wrote:There are so many women working in WLB nowadays,,,,,,,,, I'd be tempted to ring them and (if u get a woman) talk to her about the "no justification",,,, and then ask her,, How many rings and necklaces do you have love ???
Rather silly comparison as you don't need permission from the government to buy rings and necklaces, but you do firearms.
Said in jest of course, but you took it as serious.
But,,,,,,, reading between the lines I was implying the basic of,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Some people buy firearms because they like them,,, and why shouldn't they be able to,,,,, so long as it's done legally.
No difference as far as that's concerned to women buying jewelry,,,,,,, because they like diamonds.
I know it was said in jest,
The point is and you see it often here on this forum, is that people believe they have a right to buy and own firearms in Australia.
You don't.
You are given permission by the government to do so, under their laws and conditions and only with their approval.
You don't have to seek and be given approval from the government to buy jewellery, although many men might be in favour of this this.