Magazine Capacity

[S O K A R]

To cut a long story short I have both a pump action 223 and a bolt 223 of which both take ar compatible magazines.

(3) A person must not possess a detachable firearms magazine that is –
(a) capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition and being used in a pump-action centre-fire rifle; or
(b) capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition and being used in a lever-action centre-fire rifle; or
(c) capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition and being used in a bolt-action centre-fire rifle.

According to the act you can use 10 round mags in a pump action and 15 round mags in a bolt gun, there is nothing I can find that covers if you own both firearms.
Would it be a safe assumption that I would be within the parameters of the law to have both 10 and 15 round mags as long as the 15 round mags weren't used in the pump action?

[No1Mk3]

No, it would not be a good move. The operable word there is "capable", whether you use it in the pump-action or not you have it in your possession and it it is "capable" of being inserted in pump-action, stick to 10 round mags and don't risk getting pulled by a cop who will take your guns.

[womble]

Great question though

[Billo]

As long as you have the Bolt action with you when in possession of the 15 shot mag I dont see an issue.

The answer seems obvious

[stihl88]

To cut a long story short I have both a pump action 223 and a bolt 223 of which both take ar compatible magazines.

(3) A person must not possess a detachable firearms magazine that is –
(a) capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition and being used in a pump-action centre-fire rifle; or
(b) capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition and being used in a lever-action centre-fire rifle; or
(c) capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition and being used in a bolt-action centre-fire rifle.

According to the act you can use 10 round mags in a pump action and 15 round mags in a bolt gun, there is nothing I can find that covers if you own both firearms.
Would it be a safe assumption that I would be within the parameters of the law to have both 10 and 15 round mags as long as the 15 round mags weren't used in the pump action?

[Victoria] Although the mag's capable of holding more than 15 rounds, unless it is "being used in" the PA I interpret you would not be in breach.

As far as I'm aware magazines are not restricted [Victoria], you do not need to show you firearms license to purchase/possess them so in this scenario it's less about it's possession and capability and more about it's use.

To play it safe, you might want to look into this option, works well for me.

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[womble]

Yeah the mag coupler is another can of worms.

[stihl88]

Yeah the mag coupler is another can of worms.

What about duct tape?

[bladeracer]

As far as I'm aware magazines are not restricted [Victoria], you do not need to show you firearms license to purchase/possess them so in this scenario it's less about it's possession and capability and more about it's use.

CatA/B mags are unregulated, don't know about CatH, but I don't think the average person can possess pistol mags over 10rds or CatD/E mags - like a 32rd MP40, 30rd AR15, or a 20rd L1A1 mag except on a Collector's or Theatrical Armourer's licence - anybody know for sure?

[Oldbloke]

To cut a long story short I have both a pump action 223 and a bolt 223 of which both take ar compatible magazines.

(3) A person must not possess a detachable firearms magazine that is –
(a) capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition and being used in a pump-action centre-fire rifle; or
(b) capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition and being used in a lever-action centre-fire rifle; or
(c) capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition and being used in a bolt-action centre-fire rifle.

According to the act you can use 10 round mags in a pump action and 15 round mags in a bolt gun, there is nothing I can find that covers if you own both firearms.
Would it be a safe assumption that I would be within the parameters of the law to have both 10 and 15 round mags as long as the 15 round mags weren't used in the pump action?

Don't know much about this. However my advise is be vary careful. Look for other options.

No1M3 is knowledgeable in this area.

[womble]

Yeah the mag coupler is another can of worms.

What about duct tape?

I honestly don’t know but still don’t want scrutiny from plod .

[Shootermick]

I would strongly suggest that it would be a no. With my cat c 10/22, I can only own a 10 round mag. I’ve also got a Ruger 22 bolt action. Without my cat c I could have 15 round etc magazines for use in it, but because they cross over I can’t own one.
The old, I only use this mag for this gun, even though it also fits that other one doesn’t cut it.
I would imagine cat b would be viewed the same.
Pretty sure the mag coupler is above board though.
Happy to be proven wrong, but this is my take on it.

[bladeracer]

I would strongly suggest that it would be a no. With my cat c 10/22, I can only own a 10 round mag. I’ve also got a Ruger 22 bolt action. Without my cat c I could have 15 round etc magazines for use in it, but because they cross over I can’t own one.
The old, I only use this mag for this gun, even though it also fits that other one doesn’t cut it.
I would imagine cat b would be viewed the same.
Pretty sure the mag coupler is above board though.
Happy to be proven wrong, but this is my take on it.

Have Police actually told you that you can't possess CatA/B 15rd mags at all just because you own a CatC rifle? I would have thought it was only an offence to actually use such a magazine in the rifle, not to merely possess it. The 15rd mags also fit the Ruger Charger pistols, which is the reason Border Force gave me for not allowing us to import them into Australia, even if we don't own Charger pistols. Border Force agreed that the magazines are not illegal, I just won't be given a B709 to import them, even though I already own some. I'm not aware of it being an offence to own the 15rd mags if you do own the pistol though, assuming you do own a rifle as well. Possessing a 15rd mag when you only own the pistol would be a strong circumstantial case I would think. All current BX15 and BX25 mag imports have to be restricted by the importer to 10rd capacity before Border Force will release them, and that appears to be despite some states having no limit on mag capacity for CatA rifles.

[Oldbloke]

No, it would not be a good move. The operable word there is "capable", whether you use it in the pump-action or not you have it in your possession and it it is "capable" of being inserted in pump-action, stick to 10 round mags and don't risk getting pulled by a cop who will take your guns.

BL, this is what no1 is on about. It's about what could be used for. Not is used for.

P.S. What's wrong with just having a second 10 round mag?

[deye243]

No, it would not be a good move. The operable word there is "capable", whether you use it in the pump-action or not you have it in your possession and it it is "capable" of being inserted in pump-action, stick to 10 round mags and don't risk getting pulled by a cop who will take your guns.

BL, this is what no1 is on about. It's about what could be used for. Not is used for.

P.S. What's wrong with just having a second 10 round mag?

Well just because ...... I actually hate mags that protrude below the stock but I have no problem with anyone that wants to run a banana.