Ok why do you personally have more than one firearm

[Lyam]

I wish they'd all stick their heads in, literally.

Then we wouldn't have to listen to their crap

[jake84]

Lyam ' to right

[Josh Smith]

Dang... if all I could have is one gun, I'd pick a military caliber, grab a bunch of friends with their one guns apiece, and go change the rules.

On the other hand, maybe what these greenies you all suffer with mean is that they want everyone to have at least one gun...

One can hope.

Josh

[jake84]

Dang... if all I could have is one gun, I'd pick a military caliber, grab a bunch of friends with their one guns apiece, and go change the rules.

[bluerob]

Fishing gear is the same as the golf club analogy.

My old man has a knife collection. He's never stabbed anyone, but, he's hit a few windscreens and people accidentally with wayward shots playing golf.

Funny how golf ranges don't have "fall out zones."

[bigfellascott]

Cos I need em is why. I don't have one pair of shoes, one set of clothes, why would I only have one firearm? If they made one that could do everything well I may consider it but sadly they don't, bit like golf clubs, fishing rods, tools, kitchen appliances etc etc, clearly more than one is needed to get the job done so to speak.

[COLLECTOR 1]

If nothing else...I collect firearms, long arms as a matter of fact, rifles and shotguns, I have over 60, and as the name implies mainly Bruno's, (and English Shotguns).

The golf analogy is correct, show me a golfer with one club, and yes there are shooters out there, in all disciplines, with just one gun. Its a matter of choice and the fact that we DO live in a free society that allows me to have this hobby.

I look at it this way, I could collect stamps, coins, playing cards, or rocks...BUT I choose to collect firearms, and enjoy the activities associated with them.

COLLECTOR 1

[Mr.x]

The same reason I have more than one fishing rod, I like to target different species. No use chasing mackerel with my bream gear (yep have done it before) but it just ain't the same, no use shooting rabbits with the 308 on a small property when a 22 with subs will do.

[Pom]

Funny how golf ranges don't have "fall out zones."

Some Green will get a smashed windscreen one day and take up zoning of golf courses as his cause sooner or later

[SendIt]

Fishing gear is the same as the golf club analogy.

My old man has a knife collection. He's never stabbed anyone, but, he's hit a few windscreens and people accidentally with wayward shots playing golf.

Funny how golf ranges don't have "fall out zones."

I've hit a mate with a fishing rod before

I'd better call the registry and get it listed as a weapon

I'll get them to start on some legislation about being 6 foot from fellow fishermen at all times

[jake84]

Fishing gear is the same as the golf club analogy.

My old man has a knife collection. He's never stabbed anyone, but, he's hit a few windscreens and people accidentally with wayward shots playing golf.

Funny how golf ranges don't have "fall out zones."

I've hit a mate with a fishing rod before

I'd better call the registry and get it listed as a weapon

I'll get them to start on some legislation about being 6 foot from fellow fishermen at all times

They would take your sarcastic idea and then run with it.
Next thing we’ll have fishing bays introduced no more than 1 person in each bay with a time limit as well.

[Rakk]

Riverbank Officers patrolling the shores and calling "cease-fishing" every half hour

[headspace]

I think there's any number of reasons why you'd have more than one firearm. My Howa 223 heavy barrel is good for the bench or sitting one place whistling foxes, but I don't want to carry it all day. My 308 is ideal for pigs or deer in cover with it's 22inch barrel. My 270 is great for open country hunting for most things. my 222 with a 20 inch barrel is a great light walk around rifle for anything that pops up. That's about all I need and I doubt that a rimfire of any sort is planned.
JD

Up date on that, sold the 223 heavy because I realised the lightweight 222 could do all I wanted, and bought a Winchester mod 70 243 Feather weight because, I wanted it. I also like my rifles fairly traditional so you won't find any stainless or rubber in my safe, it's all blued steel and nice wood.
JD

[jake84]

Riverbank Officers patrolling the shores and calling "cease-fishing" every half hour

[bosi72]

Hi,
This is my first post on this forum, so hello everyone from the SE suburbs of Melbourne!

With regards to the main question, I would use the vehicle analogy. e.g. I wouldn't drive passenger car on rough 4wd road, nor I would drive my 4wd every day to the city. I mostly walk or use a pushbike when going to the supermarket. Different requirements - different tools.
I also believe similar analogy would apply to female citizens: why using different bags/shoes/perfumes/jewelry on different occasions ? etc..

At the present I use Zastava LK M70 .30-06 (deer hunting) and Baikal IZH-27EM-1C (clay targets).

Cheers!

[scrolllock]

Welcome bosi

I'd say see you at Springvale some time but I think there'd be problems if you started with your 30-06 there

[bosi72]

Thanks scrolllock.
Unfortunately I don't understand why only .22lr and pistols at Springvale when the decibel levels are very similar:
http://www.freehearingtest.com/hia_gunfirenoise.shtml

Being 2hrs away from Little River, 1.5hr from Lillydale and 1hr from Lang Lang ($$$) doesn't give us many options.

A quarry in state forest sounds sounds reasonable alternative to me.

Cheers

[1290]

Anyone that understands anything about ballistics, basics your mind should be capable of assemling with logic (small bullets-small things, lots of small bullets flying things, big bullets-big things, biger bullets bigger things, fast, slow) and firearms (rifles / shotguns) generally will have no issue grasping the concept of why an individual interested in a diverse array of shooting activities, will by necessity require different firearms, sometimes multiples in the same configuation and/or chambering....Want to shoot fast moving flying or running things, whether animals or not, you probably need at least one shotgun. Want to shoot further out or less mobile targets, you'll start with a 22 rimfire then further than a reasonable distance or size, a centrefire is necessary. Want to hunt medium stuff, bigger stuff... there's a reason why there exist a multitude of different firearm types and chamberings commonly within the range of 0.17 up to 0.51calibre. also smaller/bigger.....

Most reasonably intelligent people, whether or not golfers, would understand the golfing analogy maybe they've seen the news reports of the drive, with a longer heavier club... seen the chip from the bunker with the wedgey shaped thing... the putting, the stuff in the middle with the other clubs and of course the guy or girl lugging the bag with a dozen or so different club.....yet golfer arent asked why?........ so those people cant use a reasonable amount of intelligence to figure out the parallel / association, and why maybe more than 1 gun is required?

So what I'm saying is that anyone who asks "why you need" or states that "you don't need more than one" or even 2 firearms, is displaying a great level of ignorance in the basics of shooting and firearms....and golf...that doesnt deserve a response other than a suggestion to possibly learn a few thing about shooting then come back and ask if you have any further questions (by that stage they may even wish to have a go!!).

Any suggestion by the Greens that individuals should be limited to 3 or 2 or 1 firearm, is simply a step in their Fabian (google it, go on) conquest of the firearm question, that means slowly but surely they seek to achieve their objective of total disarmament. The INTERMEDIATE step is gun-control, controlling the number, ultimately, disarming. Hence the United Nation has an office of disarmament, not an office of gun-control

http://www.un.org/disarmament/

The Office promotes:
........Disarmament efforts in the area of conventional weapons, especially landmines and small arms......

Make no mistake what the objectives are, 3 months ago the global arms trade treaty was finally ratified after years of global negotiation. The treaty requires national legislation to be implemented!!, and now we hear rumours of committees calling for national changes..oh but its only global transfers, right....I say buckle up.

I think that once shooters feel the need to justify multiple firearm (except where necessitated by law, on a PTA) it demonstrate a certain level surrender to the gungrabbers...dont give in by floundering for an answer.

We all need to pay attention to these treaties entered into, what they are using as a trojan horse to bring in tougher firearm law - terrorism-. We need to keep on top of what our respective state police ministers are discussing at their love fest, previously known as the APMC (Australasian police ministers council) infamously known for the 1996 National Firearms Agreement, now the 'Ministerial Council for Police and Emergency Management'.... I beleive the MCPEM has recommended changes at the recent COAG (premiers and Prime Minister love-in) hence the SFP 'disclosure'......

[Baronvonrort]

A gun is a tool so I require a few tools.

I have more than 1 hammer as well,sledge,5lb,claw,skutch and rubber-wooden hammers, each is suited for it's job.

[bluerob]

Anyone that understands anything about ballistics, basics your mind should be capable of assemling with logic (small bullets-small things, lots of small bullets flying things, big bullets-big things, biger bullets bigger things, fast, slow) and firearms (rifles / shotguns) generally will have no issue grasping the concept of why an individual interested in a diverse array of shooting activities, will by necessity require different firearms, sometimes multiples in the same configuation and/or chambering....Want to shoot fast moving flying or running things, whether animals or not, you probably need at least one shotgun. Want to shoot further out or less mobile targets, you'll start with a 22 rimfire then further than a reasonable distance or size, a centrefire is necessary. Want to hunt medium stuff, bigger stuff... there's a reason why there exist a multitude of different firearm types and chamberings commonly within the range of 0.17 up to 0.51calibre. also smaller/bigger.....

Most reasonably intelligent people, whether or not golfers, would understand the golfing analogy maybe they've seen the news reports of the drive, with a longer heavier club... seen the chip from the bunker with the wedgey shaped thing... the putting, the stuff in the middle with the other clubs and of course the guy or girl lugging the bag with a dozen or so different club.....yet golfer arent asked why?........ so those people cant use a reasonable amount of intelligence to figure out the parallel / association, and why maybe more than 1 gun is required?

So what I'm saying is that anyone who asks "why you need" or states that "you don't need more than one" or even 2 firearms, is displaying a great level of ignorance in the basics of shooting and firearms....and golf...that doesnt deserve a response other than a suggestion to possibly learn a few thing about shooting then come back and ask if you have any further questions (by that stage they may even wish to have a go!!).

Any suggestion by the Greens that individuals should be limited to 3 or 2 or 1 firearm, is simply a step in their Fabian (google it, go on) conquest of the firearm question, that means slowly but surely they seek to achieve their objective of total disarmament. The INTERMEDIATE step is gun-control, controlling the number, ultimately, disarming. Hence the United Nation has an office of disarmament, not an office of gun-control

http://www.un.org/disarmament/

The Office promotes:
........Disarmament efforts in the area of conventional weapons, especially landmines and small arms......

Make no mistake what the objectives are, 3 months ago the global arms trade treaty was finally ratified after years of global negotiation. The treaty requires national legislation to be implemented!!, and now we hear rumours of committees calling for national changes..oh but its only global transfers, right....I say buckle up.

I think that once shooters feel the need to justify multiple firearm (except where necessitated by law, on a PTA) it demonstrate a certain level surrender to the gungrabbers...dont give in by floundering for an answer.

We all need to pay attention to these treaties entered into, what they are using as a trojan horse to bring in tougher firearm law - terrorism-. We need to keep on top of what our respective state police ministers are discussing at their love fest, previously known as the APMC (Australasian police ministers council) infamously known for the 1996 National Firearms Agreement, now the 'Ministerial Council for Police and Emergency Management'.... I beleive the MCPEM has recommended changes at the recent COAG (premiers and Prime Minister love-in) hence the SFP 'disclosure'......

I'd like to know more about the Transpacific Partnership, but, nothing available - and people say there's nothing to worry about

[1290]

The TPP is being negotiated behind closed doors between select parliamentary reps, with no doubt major global corporate input - a major part of it is the multinationals ability to SUE our government if a decision or change in law harms there business..... and we're on board with this!!!

Other members of parliament have complained about being kept in the dark.... to no avail. It will however be revealed once the treaty is in its final negotiated form and ready for parliamentary debate....

Go to wiki leaks, if you can bear reading the treasonous disgusting contents of just the ISPs and copyright....... then you'll understand why our representatives were so eager to run the metadata laws thru!!! If they agree to that stuff, they have really let us down, and fed us to the lions..

[Gwion]

a/ because i want to
b/ because i'm a law abiding person
c/ because i'm not hurting anyone
d/ because i'm not devastating native wildlife
e/ because one wont sort out all my shooting needs

[cooker]

Ok why do you personally have more than one firearm

Because NZ laws let me have better toys

Sorry

[1290]

Ok why do you personally have more than one firearm

Because NZ laws let me have better toys

Sorry

We hate you

.....though our constitution still says you're a brother

[Bourt]

Don't apologize, make the most of it mate

[Walt68]

.22 WMR for making sure I get ethical kills on small game.
.338 WM for making sure I get ethical kills on big game in Australia.
12 Gauge for making sure I get ethical kills on waterfowl and pigs in close country.
All my firearms are for putting food on the table in the most ethical efficient manner.
May get an air rifle to practice my marksmanship principles.

[Tonit]

I don't fish or golf and as such think they should be banned, if not, those criminals that do should be restricted to only one "golf bat" and they can use it for fishing as well!

Hooks are sharp, people have been killed with golf balls.

That's all the reason we need to ban things as demonstrated elsewhere