Is forward recoil possible?

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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Chronos » 10 Nov 2014, 3:59 pm

Yep , as long as your happy for the bullet to travel backwards. :)

Equal and opposite reaction and all that , some energy goes forward, some must go back.

Bloody physics

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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by on_one_wheel » 10 Nov 2014, 4:06 pm

Yes ... if your using a air rifle
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by cavok » 10 Nov 2014, 4:14 pm

Every action shall have an opposite and equal reaction. Stand on roller skates and fire a rifle, (.22 -30.06 ) that what happens, proof positive. More recoil more you will roll backwards.
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Oldbloke » 10 Nov 2014, 4:38 pm

Chronos wrote:Yep , as long as your happy for the bullet to travel backwards. :)

Equal and opposite reaction and all that , some energy gies forward, some must go back.

Bloody physics

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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Tiiger » 11 Nov 2014, 2:26 pm

The rifle is moving backwards as soon as the projectile is moving forward, before the majority of the gas exits the muzzle and brake.

It'll always be going backwards.
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by sha » 11 Nov 2014, 2:27 pm

Chronos wrote:Bloody physics


Damn that guy!
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by harris » 11 Nov 2014, 2:28 pm

Theoretically... Weld your rifle to a truck, drive the truck forwards while shooting.

Forward recoil? :lol:
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Westy » 11 Nov 2014, 3:54 pm

Yes !!!

If your hanging out the window shooting signs at 50 MPH(80kmh for you Mauser) and someone jumps on the brakes then I feel it is very possible!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Oldbloke » 11 Nov 2014, 4:56 pm

Westy is a bloody genius! Must be Einsteins grand son. :o
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Westy » 11 Nov 2014, 6:35 pm

How did you know ???? Here I was trying to keep it under wraps and now I've been exposed again!!!!!!! :geek: :geek: :geek:
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by 1290 » 11 Nov 2014, 6:38 pm

The recoil is a reaction of the forward motion of the bullet,as well as the gas. The brake will harness 'some' of the gas to create a force in directions that resolves axially to the bore, ie. forward, but as a result of the remaining unhindered gas traveling along the path of the bore/bullet, as well as the bullet motion......

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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Westy » 11 Nov 2014, 6:40 pm

1290 wrote:The recoil is a reaction of the forward motion of the bullet,as well as the gas. The brake will harness 'some' of the gas to create a force in directions that resolves axially to the bore, ie. forward, but as a result of the remaining unhindered gas traveling along the path of the bore/bullet, as well as the bullet motion......

No.

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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by headspace » 11 Nov 2014, 8:07 pm

Regardless of everything else, if you showed up at the range a muzzle brake that big, blokes would be queuing up to make a suppository out of it.
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by brett1868 » 12 Nov 2014, 10:09 am

I've experienced forward recoil only once, I shot something I shouldn't have and my uncle booted me in the ass so hard I moved forward a good foot.
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Westy » 12 Nov 2014, 10:15 am

brett1868 wrote:I've experienced forward recoil only once, I shot something I shouldn't have and my uncle booted me in the ass so hard I moved forward a good foot.

your a Funny Bugger!!!! Was it a size 12 ???? :lol: :D :lol:
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Grrzrr » 12 Nov 2014, 10:43 am

Westy wrote:If your hanging out the window shooting signs at 50 MPH(80kmh for you Mauser) and someone jumps on the brakes then I feel it is very possible!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


What is going on that that intersection? Dogs breakfast... People driving every which way.

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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by brett1868 » 12 Nov 2014, 11:00 am

Westy wrote:
brett1868 wrote:I've experienced forward recoil only once, I shot something I shouldn't have and my uncle booted me in the ass so hard I moved forward a good foot.

your a Funny Bugger!!!! Was it a size 12 ???? :lol: :D :lol:


I was 7 and remember the lesson very well "no shooting topnot doves", no idea what shoe size he was but think I actually got some air so they must have been big. I lost my slug gun privilages for the rest of the day as well which hurt more that my backside.
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Westy » 13 Nov 2014, 7:19 am

Lesson well learned as you still remember it what some 40 yrs later??? :lol: :lol: :lol: Funny how it goes my old man did the same to me for shooting Magpies with the slug gun!!!!Now day little Johnny would be sent off to see the Psychiatrist as he has developed issues and now needs to be put straight away on Ritalin and go to a councillor every week for a year!!!! But if you hit this child your up on child abuse ,pretty f***ed up world really!!!!! :o :shock: :o I'm a fan of the kick right up the ass approach !!!! :lol: :D :lol:
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Vati » 14 Nov 2014, 10:34 am

"Forward recoil" and no one made a that's what she said joke.

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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Die Judicii » 14 Nov 2014, 8:16 pm

brett1868 wrote:I've experienced forward recoil only once, I shot something I shouldn't have and my uncle booted me in the ass so hard I moved forward a good foot.


Hi Brett,,,
Judging by your photo, I'm guessing your "forward motion" came to an abrupt end at the picket fence ????
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Die Judicii » 14 Nov 2014, 8:23 pm

on_one_wheel wrote:Yes ... if your using a air rifle


I'm thinking that on_one_wheel is closest to being correct,,,,
I seem to recall something about air rifles being almost reverse when it comes to recoil.
Thats why they usually wreck ordinary scopes.

Anyone here know for sure ??????
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Chronos » 14 Nov 2014, 8:28 pm

Die Judicii wrote:
on_one_wheel wrote:Yes ... if your using a air rifle


I'm thinking that on_one_wheel is closest to being correct,,,,
I seem to recall something about air rifles being almost reverse when it comes to recoil.
Thats why they usually wreck ordinary scopes.

Anyone here know for sure ??????



i believe it only applies to spring operated air rifles. I'm not 100% sure but I think it's more of dual recoil, one back, one forward that kills scopes. the initial recoil is caused by the spring (and slug) accelerating and the second occurs when the spring stops moving, only fractions of a second apart, of course i could have that completely the wrong way around :lol: I'd be interested in a real answer :oops:

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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by KWhorenet » 14 Nov 2014, 10:06 pm

My point before I waffle on.
Does recoil that is allowed to move the firearm backward affect the bullets velocity ?

If you have the rifle vice gripped solid, given that the rifle wouldn't recoil backwards does the bullet retain more energy/velocity?
Someone with a vice and chronograph try it please :P
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by North East » 14 Nov 2014, 10:22 pm

If you mix cement, sand, aggregate and water….it hardens up. If recoil is an issue that's what you have to do…harden up.

Either that or get a muzzle brake…nothing wrong with a brake.
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by North East » 14 Nov 2014, 10:24 pm

KWhorenet wrote:My point before I waffle on.
Does recoil that is allowed to move the firearm backward affect the bullets velocity ?

If you have the rifle vice gripped solid, given that the rifle wouldn't recoil backwards does the bullet retain more energy/velocity?
Someone with a vice and chronograph try it please :P


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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by brett1868 » 14 Nov 2014, 11:18 pm

Die Judicii wrote:
brett1868 wrote:I've experienced forward recoil only once, I shot something I shouldn't have and my uncle booted me in the ass so hard I moved forward a good foot.


Hi Brett,,,
Judging by your photo, I'm guessing your "forward motion" came to an abrupt end at the picket fence ????
:lol: :lol: :lol:


The forward motion only ended when dear uncle ran out of reach with his hip, knee, ankle and toe. I had a brief sensation of what zero gravity felt like before landing on my feet. That experience was nearly 40 years ago and it's still clear in my memory. Unfortunately my uncle died some years ago but his son now owns the property and I still go up there to shoot and remember his lessons well. I'll pass his wisdom onto my own son including the kick in the ass if required.
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Die Judicii » 15 Nov 2014, 11:29 am

Brett,,,,,,,, I agree whole heartedly.
The f#^!ing do gooders have nearly taken away every last vestige of good old fashioned discipline.

What hurt physically for a few moments, coupled with the humiliation of copping one has the extremely good result that it is etched in your brain for a lifetime.
And that can only be GOOD,,,,,,,, not to mention it may well have saved someones life.

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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Tonit » 15 Nov 2014, 2:47 pm

brett1868 wrote:I had a brief sensation of what zero gravity felt like before landing on my feet.


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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Oldbloke » 28 Apr 2015, 9:57 pm

Is that pistol for real or photo shopped?
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Re: Is forward recoil possible?

Post by Pom » 29 Apr 2015, 9:43 am

If not shopped maybe a movie prop for a bit or something?
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