Is forward recoil possible?

[Vati]

"Forward recoil" and no one made a that's what she said joke.

We've come a long way

[Die Judicii]

I've experienced forward recoil only once, I shot something I shouldn't have and my uncle booted me in the ass so hard I moved forward a good foot.

Hi Brett,,,
Judging by your photo, I'm guessing your "forward motion" came to an abrupt end at the picket fence ????

[Die Judicii]

Yes ... if your using a air rifle

I'm thinking that on_one_wheel is closest to being correct,,,,
I seem to recall something about air rifles being almost reverse when it comes to recoil.
Thats why they usually wreck ordinary scopes.

Anyone here know for sure ??????

[Chronos]

Yes ... if your using a air rifle

I'm thinking that on_one_wheel is closest to being correct,,,,
I seem to recall something about air rifles being almost reverse when it comes to recoil.
Thats why they usually wreck ordinary scopes.

Anyone here know for sure ??????

i believe it only applies to spring operated air rifles. I'm not 100% sure but I think it's more of dual recoil, one back, one forward that kills scopes. the initial recoil is caused by the spring (and slug) accelerating and the second occurs when the spring stops moving, only fractions of a second apart, of course i could have that completely the wrong way around I'd be interested in a real answer

Chronos

[KWhorenet]

My point before I waffle on.
Does recoil that is allowed to move the firearm backward affect the bullets velocity ?

If you have the rifle vice gripped solid, given that the rifle wouldn't recoil backwards does the bullet retain more energy/velocity?
Someone with a vice and chronograph try it please

[North East]

If you mix cement, sand, aggregate and water….it hardens up. If recoil is an issue that's what you have to do…harden up.

Either that or get a muzzle brake…nothing wrong with a brake.

[North East]

My point before I waffle on.
Does recoil that is allowed to move the firearm backward affect the bullets velocity ?

If you have the rifle vice gripped solid, given that the rifle wouldn't recoil backwards does the bullet retain more energy/velocity?
Someone with a vice and chronograph try it please

Just use a Lead Sled to try it out.

[brett1868]

I've experienced forward recoil only once, I shot something I shouldn't have and my uncle booted me in the ass so hard I moved forward a good foot.

Hi Brett,,,
Judging by your photo, I'm guessing your "forward motion" came to an abrupt end at the picket fence ????

The forward motion only ended when dear uncle ran out of reach with his hip, knee, ankle and toe. I had a brief sensation of what zero gravity felt like before landing on my feet. That experience was nearly 40 years ago and it's still clear in my memory. Unfortunately my uncle died some years ago but his son now owns the property and I still go up there to shoot and remember his lessons well. I'll pass his wisdom onto my own son including the kick in the ass if required.

[Die Judicii]

Brett,,,,,,,, I agree whole heartedly.
The f#^!ing do gooders have nearly taken away every last vestige of good old fashioned discipline.

What hurt physically for a few moments, coupled with the humiliation of copping one has the extremely good result that it is etched in your brain for a lifetime.
And that can only be GOOD,,,,,,,, not to mention it may well have saved someones life.

Good old Uncle.

[Tonit]

I had a brief sensation of what zero gravity felt like before landing on my feet.

You pay big money for that these days

[Oldbloke]

Is that pistol for real or photo shopped?

[Pom]

If not shopped maybe a movie prop for a bit or something?

[GLS_1956]

Schwarzlose Model 1908.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzlose_Model_1908

[pomemax]

Just pondering "fire a shot in a vacuum" just a thought

[KWhorenet]

Just pondering "fire a shot in a vacuum" just a thought

What is your theory on this? Not having a dig. Just curious?


Personally;
I don't see how anything can influence the newtons 3rd law. Projectile gets pushed forward, equal pressure is felt rearward between the projectile and brass neck, then lining of the bore, imparting force on these surrounding contact/sealing points; thus pushing force back trough the rifle into you...

Vacuum or not, even boring a hole into a 20m diameter barrel 50m long, there will still rearward force albeit so dissipated it may/wont be felt but surely this day n age it should be measurable at the butt with an ultra sensitive accelerometer type thingamajig.

Just don't see any room for other scenarios to occur

[Deco]

Face the carpark, stick the rifle over your shoulder and shoot backwards.

"forward recoil"

[Title_II]

Yes ... if your using a air rifle

It's also the reason .50 rifles brake scopes, but many air rifle scopes can withstand .50 BMG.

[pomemax]

Just pondering "fire a shot in a vacuum" just a thought

What is your theory on this? Not having a dig. Just curious?


Personally;
I don't see how anything can influence the newtons 3rd law. Projectile gets pushed forward, equal pressure is felt rearward between the projectile and brass neck, then lining of the bore, imparting force on these surrounding contact/sealing points; thus pushing force back trough the rifle into you...

Vacuum or not, even boring a hole into a 20m diameter barrel 50m long, there will still rearward force albeit so dissipated it may/wont be felt but surely this day n age it should be measurable at the butt with an ultra sensitive accelerometer type thingamajig.

Just don't see any room for other scenarios to occur

no i was thinking about if your in the vaccuum of space would the 3rd still apply suppose it would have to

[KWhorenet]

Just pondering "fire a shot in a vacuum" just a thought

What is your theory on this? Not having a dig. Just curious?
Just don't see any room for other scenarios to occur

no i was thinking about if your in the vaccuum of space would the 3rd still apply suppose it would have to

Inertia.

Astronaut pushes an object whilst in zero gravity. Both objects move away from each other.

A two part way to end up being moved in the same direction as the object you drive forward:
- Shoot a hole into a large vacuum / void,
- Initial recoil is felt backwards,
- Followed by being sucked forward into vacuum / void...this void could be my brain of late. Being suckered into buying someone's bunch of useless junk, half of which I didn't even ask for but buttered up to buy it anyway, then paying top dollar for the privilege. Feel free to test this theory.

[melanie]

no i was thinking about if your in the vaccuum of space would the 3rd still apply suppose it would have to

Maybe you just discovered cheap propulsion.

Don't need a squillion dollar space suit with thrusters and all just. Just a side arm to recoil yourself around where you want to go by shooting in the opposite direction