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26 Nosler?

Post by dayzmagnumhunter » 18 Nov 2014, 4:32 pm

Hey everyone,

Just curious if anyone has acquired this calibre and if they could share there thoughts on it?

Thanks :D
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Re: 26 nosler?

Post by mausermate » 18 Nov 2014, 5:58 pm

dayzmagnumhunter wrote:hey every one
just curious if anyone has acquired this calibre and if they could share there thoughts on it?
thanks :D


She's a powerhouse, that's for sure. I've got the mighty 6.5x68 Schuler in a Mauser 66 and it's a great Cartridge. I have a good friend with a 6.5x65 RWS and he raves about it. 264 Wincester also in that league. Awesome fun and FLAT. Great long range cartridges for mid sized stuff like we have in AUS. The 26 Nosler claims better than all of them. Cool.

Downside with these things is they burn barrels. You have to be prepared to replace barrels regularly unless you get really high end stuff like the Mauser 66 and they never made them in the 26 N. Even then, you are going to wear it out quick.
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Post by joojoobeans » 18 Nov 2014, 9:36 pm

mausermate wrote:Awesome fun and FLAT.


Just looking it up and I was going to say, jaysus that's some powder behind a little pill.

Must have a hell of a crack.
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Post by lole » 18 Nov 2014, 9:43 pm

3,400fps with a 129gr pill they say, obviously referring to the 6.5mm Accubond Long Range 129gr bullets.

BC of 0.561 and that much velocity, that thing will gooooo.
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Post by Chronos » 19 Nov 2014, 9:22 am

lole wrote:3,400fps with a 129gr pill they say, obviously referring to the 6.5mm Accubond Long Range 129gr bullets.

BC of 0.561 and that much velocity, that thing will gooooo.


Expected barrel life ? I'd guess 600-800 rounds.

Doesn't seem to make much sense as a cartridge to me but I'm sure some are being sold

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Post by bigfellascott » 19 Nov 2014, 2:28 pm

With that sort of barrel life they can keep it, can't see the point in shelling out heaps $$ for something to last that long and no doubt it will disappear sooner than later if that's all she's good for. To the Op keep looking mate, this one would be a RPITA to own in the end I suspect.
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Re: 26 nosler?

Post by dayzmagnumhunter » 19 Nov 2014, 4:16 pm

thanks for the information! i think i may consider getting one! what brand of rifle makes the 26 nosler?
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Post by Timb0 » 19 Nov 2014, 4:46 pm

dayzmagnumhunter wrote:thanks for the information! i think i may consider getting one! what brand of rifle makes the 26 nosler?


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Re: 26 nosler?

Post by dayzmagnumhunter » 19 Nov 2014, 7:38 pm

ok thanks
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Post by mausermate » 19 Nov 2014, 7:41 pm

Timb0 wrote:
dayzmagnumhunter wrote:thanks for the information! i think i may consider getting one! what brand of rifle makes the 26 nosler?


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Have not checked but my guess is that reamers are available. Bit of wood, old Mauser Magnum action, Aussie TSE or Maddco 6.5 barrel blank and you are cooking. Do it for $2000 easy and have the hottest 6.5 on the planet....and be Awesome.

Cases and dies might be an issue but I suppose you can resize and fire form some 404 Jeffery cases.

Might do one myself.

Might have to give Mr Spittles a call.
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Post by mausermate » 19 Nov 2014, 7:56 pm

Looks like you can get reamers from Pacific Tool http://shop.pacifictoolandgauge.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1911 and possibly brass from Nosler but the link to it is bad.

I would go halves with you on the reamer if you like dayz. PM me.
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Re: 26 nosler?

Post by deye243 » 19 Nov 2014, 11:57 pm

as a long range hunter you should be able to get 2 to 4 years out of one ..... a gong basher it is not
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Post by harris » 20 Nov 2014, 9:14 am

dayzmagnumhunter wrote:Just curious if anyone has acquired this calibre and if they could share there thoughts on it?


Just looking at their website I think we might be waiting a while in Aus for them.

I looked at all the rifles and there is between a 3-6 months wait up to late next year according to the site. If that's the case in the US will any be here yet?
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Re: 26 Nosler?

Post by Mich » 20 Nov 2014, 9:17 am

Hi guys,

My first post here. Chiming in to say I've had a deposit paid on a Nosler M48 rifle chambered in 26 Nosler and am finally picking it up next week :)

This will be a mid-longe range hunter and hopes are high for it. I'll be back with feedback.
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Post by Fry » 20 Nov 2014, 9:39 am

Chronos wrote:Doesn't seem to make much sense as a cartridge to me but I'm sure some are being sold


Only makes sense as a long range hunting cartridge, that's a pretty small niche though.

Not to mention there are existing cartridges which cover it anyway.

I can see some perks to it, but no huge advantages that make it a clear winner.

And that barrel life... :|
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Re: 26 Nosler?

Post by Ariat » 20 Nov 2014, 9:40 am

Welcome Mich :)

Keep us posted.
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Post by AlanK » 20 Nov 2014, 9:41 am

Chronos wrote:Doesn't seem to make much sense as a cartridge to me but I'm sure some are being sold


Just a guess but I reckon it's more about Nosler marketing themselves than anything else.
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Post by mausermate » 20 Nov 2014, 12:20 pm

Mich wrote:Hi guys,

My first post here. Chiming in to say I've had a deposit paid on a Nosler M48 rifle chambered in 26 Nosler and am finally picking it up next week :)

This will be a mid-longe range hunter and hopes are high for it. I'll be back with feedback.


Welcome Mitch,

Looking forward to hearing about the Rifle when it arrives.
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Re: 26 nosler?

Post by Chronos » 20 Nov 2014, 2:07 pm

Fry wrote:Only makes sense as a long range hunting cartridge, that's a pretty small niche though.

Not to mention there are existing cartridges which cover it anyway.

I can see some perks to it, but no huge advantages that make it a clear winner.

And that barrel life... :|


I agree as a long range hunting cartridge it could be useful, but is it going to be better than a 7mm RM or a 6.5-284 for that matter.

I ran some numbers. Looks like it would produce about 3300 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle, that's about. 600 foot pounds more than a .308 shooting 175gr bullets. She'll kick a bit. :lol:

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Post by Fry » 20 Nov 2014, 3:00 pm

Chronos wrote:I agree as a long range hunting cartridge it could be useful, but is it going to be better than a 7mm RM or a 6.5-284 for that matter.


Yup... Those are the kind of existing one's I was thinking of.
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Post by oowess » 20 Nov 2014, 3:02 pm

Chronos wrote:600 foot pounds more than a .308 shooting 175gr bullets. She'll kick a bit. :lol:


It's for when that white-tail absolutely, positively just has to die!!! :lol:
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Post by VICHunter » 21 Nov 2014, 3:14 pm

Chronos wrote:Looks like it would produce about 3300 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle, that's about. 600 foot pounds more than a .308 shooting 175gr bullets.


And yet not legal here for the larger deer species :roll:
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Re: 26 Nosler?

Post by 1290 » 22 Nov 2014, 7:03 am

What was oushed for was the removal of the minimum case length...... ideally, the scottish logic of energy level... but remember, this is Victoria!! :roll:

This is an interesting round, a super hot 'little' 6.5...not an original concept (honestly, originality ran out decades ago in the industry, how many times can you reinvent the wheel....

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I reckon one of the best newish chamberings was the 375, attains H&H energy in a standard length round (and action) they by-passed the belted short magnums (win mag type) so as to make use of the full diameter of the case while retaining standard magnum (H&H) rim diameter. Fatter than win mags/more case vol...

Nosler have replicated this thinking, with one difference; they pumped out the case (on the mag rim) to grap a bit more volume, slightly fatter than Mr.Ruger. creating a slightly rebated rim as well (pros/cons)...

This will probably be more appealing to the wildcatters... I see necking up into a 30cal, more oomph than the winmag, not RUM level but in the standard length, maybe a 375 for the slight plus on the ruger?? 338, is probably already done... would be interesting to see how many XXX/26Nosler reamers are out..

Case wall slope/taper is, for the record, similar to 308win
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Re: 26 Nosler?

Post by Chronos » 22 Nov 2014, 1:24 pm

Well now you say it, a 7mm-26Nosler nakes perfect sense and will take the world by storm. :lol:

Well written post mate but on a serious note the questions I have over a cartridge like this is why they do it at all?

Why such a long case why accuracy trends seem to indicate shorter fatter powder columns burn more consistently and produce better vertical, quite important if you're marketing your round at long range hunters

Why such a light bullet, speed is fine but it's just one factor. Why not develop a heavier bullet and match twist rates to say a. 140-150gr bonded bullet? Better ballistics means less wind drift and less drop means more penetration at target. After all their talk of a point blank range of 415y I looked closer at the data and see that for a 415y PBR you'd be sighted in 5 1/2" high at 100y, not a realistic representation of good zeroing unless you're shooting moose

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Re: 26 Nosler?

Post by 1290 » 23 Nov 2014, 9:14 am

Thanks,

7mm is well catered for, both above and below the level of a 7mm/26..so I dont think it would offer anything apart from a slight 7mmRemmag step up without the belt.....in a standard action length.

short fat? nah, a strong ignition will engulf most of the powder column anyway... and for hunting, give me a long slick feeding tapered round, not a short fat abruptlt shaed shoulder / neck..... :D

MPBR with 5.5inch rise at 100m doesnt sound right.... 11inch based PBR? even too much for moose isnt it, i'd be thinking no more than 6inches- I might have to 'run some numbers' on that one... ;)

anyway, I'm sure Nosler released this in anticipation of releasing further larger projectile based offerings, I'm not personally a big fan of small bore stuff, dont have anything less than a 30cal, wife has a 223REm, that and the 22rimmies are the pee-shootes of the family, so let me know when the 45cal version is out, that would be handy, bit more than the 458winmag, shorter action than the Lott or Ackley.....
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Post by Tiiger » 23 Nov 2014, 9:37 am

1290 wrote:honestly, originality ran out decades ago in the industry, how many times can you reinvent the wheel....


Yeah... These days it's just picking another cartridge and outdoing it by a few thou of an inch here or a few grain there.
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Post by Chronos » 23 Nov 2014, 10:06 am

1290 wrote:Thanks,



short fat? nah, a strong ignition will engulf most of the powder column anyway... and for hunting, give me a long slick feeding tapered round, not a short fat abruptlt shaed shoulder / neck..... :D

MPBR with 5.5inch rise at 100m doesnt sound right.... 11inch based PBR? even too much for moose isnt it, i'd be thinking no more than 6inches- I might have to 'run some numbers' on that one... ;)

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"The .26 Nosler cartridge was designed to take advantage of the inherently accurate and high B.C. 6.5mm (.264) caliber bullets, and is capable of shooting the Nosler 129 grain, AccuBond Long Range bullet at a blazing 3400 fps out of the muzzle. Zeroed at 350 yards, the .26 Nosler has a Point Blank Range of 0-415 yards. Loaded with the 129 grain ABLR, the .26 Nosler retains as much velocity at 400 yards as the 260 Remington produces at the muzzle. "

I misread the table, it's actually a 350y zero ,

Trajectory: -1.5" at muzzle, +3.81" at 100 yards, +5.47" at 200 yards, +2.98" at 300 yards, +/- 0" at 350 yards, -4.24" at 400 yards, -16.87" at 500 yards

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Post by Grrzrr » 24 Nov 2014, 8:23 am

Tiiger wrote:Yeah... These days it's just picking another cartridge and outdoing it by a few thou of an inch here or a few grain there.


The one that springs to mind for me is always Winchester doing the .243 Win, then Remington release the .244 Rem :lol:
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Post by 1290 » 24 Nov 2014, 8:23 am

Chronos wrote:"The .26 Nosler cartridge was designed to take advantage of the inherently accurate and high B.C. 6.5mm (.264) caliber bullets, and is capable of shooting the Nosler 129 grain, AccuBond Long Range bullet at a blazing 3400 fps out of the muzzle. Zeroed at 350 yards, the .26 Nosler has a Point Blank Range of 0-415 yards. Loaded with the 129 grain ABLR, the .26 Nosler retains as much velocity at 400 yards as the 260 Remington produces at the muzzle. "

I misread the table, it's actually a 350y zero ,

Trajectory: -1.5" at muzzle, +3.81" at 100 yards, +5.47" at 200 yards, +2.98" at 300 yards, +/- 0" at 350 yards, -4.24" at 400 yards, -16.87" at 500 yards


If theyre going to classify the cartridge with respect to its MPBR potential - they need to specify a target size or else its irrelevant.... like saying a 308win has an MPBR of 1000m which may be correct for a 200inch target! but if you dont mention that it sounds pretty good!!

The Nosler MPBR is based it would appear on a 10inch target..... If you were seriously considering hunting based on an MPBR, at least for the species in Australia, 4 or 6 inches may be the max, maybe others have a differing viewpoint?

As far as the expanding of the range in the 26 Nosler family... PTG are already there, following referred to SAAMI spec so Nosler must have sorted these ones out for production;

26 Nosler
27 Nosler
28 Nosler
30 Nosler
33 Nosler
35 Nosler

Following appear to be the wildcats;

25/26 Nosler
270/26 Nosler
7mm/26 Nosler
30/26 Nosler
338/26 Nosler
35/26 Nosler
416/26 Nosler

http://shop.pacifictoolandgauge.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_135_139&products_id=2172

Talk about covering all the bases 25-26-27-28-29-30---33-338----35---416?? Even the 28 for those oddball types who like this calibre, appealing to the 2 shooters who own a 280Rem :D {{Nioa stock the 28Nosler!!}}

Seriously, what about the 29Nosler? a 375Nosler (too close to a 375Ruger perhaps!)..... wake me up when the 45 arrives...
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Post by Harper » 24 Nov 2014, 10:38 am

Chronos wrote:I ran some numbers. Looks like it would produce about 3300 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle, that's about. 600 foot pounds more than a .308 shooting 175gr bullets. She'll kick a bit. :lol:


35 Nosler


If it's anything like the 26, imagine what the recoil of the 35 Nosler is going to be with a 250gr bullet in the pipe :lol:
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