26 Nosler?

[Chronos]

Only makes sense as a long range hunting cartridge, that's a pretty small niche though.

Not to mention there are existing cartridges which cover it anyway.

I can see some perks to it, but no huge advantages that make it a clear winner.

And that barrel life...

I agree as a long range hunting cartridge it could be useful, but is it going to be better than a 7mm RM or a 6.5-284 for that matter.

I ran some numbers. Looks like it would produce about 3300 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle, that's about. 600 foot pounds more than a .308 shooting 175gr bullets. She'll kick a bit.

Chronos

[Fry]

I agree as a long range hunting cartridge it could be useful, but is it going to be better than a 7mm RM or a 6.5-284 for that matter.

Yup... Those are the kind of existing one's I was thinking of.

[oowess]

600 foot pounds more than a .308 shooting 175gr bullets. She'll kick a bit.

It's for when that white-tail absolutely, positively just has to die!!!

[VICHunter]

Looks like it would produce about 3300 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle, that's about. 600 foot pounds more than a .308 shooting 175gr bullets.

And yet not legal here for the larger deer species

[1290]

What was oushed for was the removal of the minimum case length...... ideally, the scottish logic of energy level... but remember, this is Victoria!!

This is an interesting round, a super hot 'little' 6.5...not an original concept (honestly, originality ran out decades ago in the industry, how many times can you reinvent the wheel....

Ruger.
I reckon one of the best newish chamberings was the 375, attains H&H energy in a standard length round (and action) they by-passed the belted short magnums (win mag type) so as to make use of the full diameter of the case while retaining standard magnum (H&H) rim diameter. Fatter than win mags/more case vol...

Nosler have replicated this thinking, with one difference; they pumped out the case (on the mag rim) to grap a bit more volume, slightly fatter than Mr.Ruger. creating a slightly rebated rim as well (pros/cons)...

This will probably be more appealing to the wildcatters... I see necking up into a 30cal, more oomph than the winmag, not RUM level but in the standard length, maybe a 375 for the slight plus on the ruger?? 338, is probably already done... would be interesting to see how many XXX/26Nosler reamers are out..

Case wall slope/taper is, for the record, similar to 308win

[Chronos]

Well now you say it, a 7mm-26Nosler nakes perfect sense and will take the world by storm.

Well written post mate but on a serious note the questions I have over a cartridge like this is why they do it at all?

Why such a long case why accuracy trends seem to indicate shorter fatter powder columns burn more consistently and produce better vertical, quite important if you're marketing your round at long range hunters

Why such a light bullet, speed is fine but it's just one factor. Why not develop a heavier bullet and match twist rates to say a. 140-150gr bonded bullet? Better ballistics means less wind drift and less drop means more penetration at target. After all their talk of a point blank range of 415y I looked closer at the data and see that for a 415y PBR you'd be sighted in 5 1/2" high at 100y, not a realistic representation of good zeroing unless you're shooting moose

Chronos

[1290]

Thanks,

7mm is well catered for, both above and below the level of a 7mm/26..so I dont think it would offer anything apart from a slight 7mmRemmag step up without the belt.....in a standard action length.

short fat? nah, a strong ignition will engulf most of the powder column anyway... and for hunting, give me a long slick feeding tapered round, not a short fat abruptlt shaed shoulder / neck.....

MPBR with 5.5inch rise at 100m doesnt sound right.... 11inch based PBR? even too much for moose isnt it, i'd be thinking no more than 6inches- I might have to 'run some numbers' on that one...

anyway, I'm sure Nosler released this in anticipation of releasing further larger projectile based offerings, I'm not personally a big fan of small bore stuff, dont have anything less than a 30cal, wife has a 223REm, that and the 22rimmies are the pee-shootes of the family, so let me know when the 45cal version is out, that would be handy, bit more than the 458winmag, shorter action than the Lott or Ackley.....

[Tiiger]

honestly, originality ran out decades ago in the industry, how many times can you reinvent the wheel....

Yeah... These days it's just picking another cartridge and outdoing it by a few thou of an inch here or a few grain there.

[Chronos]

Thanks,



short fat? nah, a strong ignition will engulf most of the powder column anyway... and for hunting, give me a long slick feeding tapered round, not a short fat abruptlt shaed shoulder / neck.....

MPBR with 5.5inch rise at 100m doesnt sound right.... 11inch based PBR? even too much for moose isnt it, i'd be thinking no more than 6inches- I might have to 'run some numbers' on that one...

.....

"The .26 Nosler cartridge was designed to take advantage of the inherently accurate and high B.C. 6.5mm (.264) caliber bullets, and is capable of shooting the Nosler 129 grain, AccuBond Long Range bullet at a blazing 3400 fps out of the muzzle. Zeroed at 350 yards, the .26 Nosler has a Point Blank Range of 0-415 yards. Loaded with the 129 grain ABLR, the .26 Nosler retains as much velocity at 400 yards as the 260 Remington produces at the muzzle. "

I misread the table, it's actually a 350y zero ,

Trajectory: -1.5" at muzzle, +3.81" at 100 yards, +5.47" at 200 yards, +2.98" at 300 yards, +/- 0" at 350 yards, -4.24" at 400 yards, -16.87" at 500 yards

Chronos

[Grrzrr]

Yeah... These days it's just picking another cartridge and outdoing it by a few thou of an inch here or a few grain there.

The one that springs to mind for me is always Winchester doing the .243 Win, then Remington release the .244 Rem

[1290]

"The .26 Nosler cartridge was designed to take advantage of the inherently accurate and high B.C. 6.5mm (.264) caliber bullets, and is capable of shooting the Nosler 129 grain, AccuBond Long Range bullet at a blazing 3400 fps out of the muzzle. Zeroed at 350 yards, the .26 Nosler has a Point Blank Range of 0-415 yards. Loaded with the 129 grain ABLR, the .26 Nosler retains as much velocity at 400 yards as the 260 Remington produces at the muzzle. "

I misread the table, it's actually a 350y zero ,

Trajectory: -1.5" at muzzle, +3.81" at 100 yards, +5.47" at 200 yards, +2.98" at 300 yards, +/- 0" at 350 yards, -4.24" at 400 yards, -16.87" at 500 yards

If theyre going to classify the cartridge with respect to its MPBR potential - they need to specify a target size or else its irrelevant.... like saying a 308win has an MPBR of 1000m which may be correct for a 200inch target! but if you dont mention that it sounds pretty good!!

The Nosler MPBR is based it would appear on a 10inch target..... If you were seriously considering hunting based on an MPBR, at least for the species in Australia, 4 or 6 inches may be the max, maybe others have a differing viewpoint?

As far as the expanding of the range in the 26 Nosler family... PTG are already there, following referred to SAAMI spec so Nosler must have sorted these ones out for production;

26 Nosler
27 Nosler
28 Nosler
30 Nosler
33 Nosler
35 Nosler

Following appear to be the wildcats;

25/26 Nosler
270/26 Nosler
7mm/26 Nosler
30/26 Nosler
338/26 Nosler
35/26 Nosler
416/26 Nosler

http://shop.pacifictoolandgauge.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_135_139&products_id=2172

Talk about covering all the bases 25-26-27-28-29-30---33-338----35---416?? Even the 28 for those oddball types who like this calibre, appealing to the 2 shooters who own a 280Rem {{Nioa stock the 28Nosler!!}}

Seriously, what about the 29Nosler? a 375Nosler (too close to a 375Ruger perhaps!)..... wake me up when the 45 arrives...

[Harper]

I ran some numbers. Looks like it would produce about 3300 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle, that's about. 600 foot pounds more than a .308 shooting 175gr bullets. She'll kick a bit.

35 Nosler

If it's anything like the 26, imagine what the recoil of the 35 Nosler is going to be with a 250gr bullet in the pipe