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Post by Noisydad » 21 Nov 2014, 6:13 am

Here's a link to an interesting video on trigger control. Think I'll be paying some attention to this little detail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIwokYOdpag
There's still a few of Wile. E Coyote's ideas that I haven't tried yet.
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Post by bigfellascott » 21 Nov 2014, 7:08 am

Yep that's where my trigger finger sits on the trigger, I've tried a few diff spots on the finger and it does make a diff from my experiences.
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Post by Mich » 21 Nov 2014, 12:37 pm

Sorry, had to switch off as soon as I saw who it was.

Not taking shooting advice from someone who does "Pilates shooting" :roll:

"learning some proper techniques" is a big call coming from someone who does shooting upside down at balloons :roll:
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Post by Streamline » 21 Nov 2014, 1:46 pm

The old hot girl + gun formula.

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Post by Jack V » 21 Nov 2014, 3:20 pm

That information is correct . That is how I was taught to shoot with the pad of the finger and you have to practice moving the finger without moving other parts of the hand . She has been coached by experts I would say. There is different styles for different types of guns.
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Post by chicachicka » 24 Nov 2014, 6:34 pm

I'll take all the help I can get :D

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Post by inventurkey » 24 Nov 2014, 6:38 pm

The pulling left or right depending on finger position caught my interest.

I wouldn't have thought that's the case but I'll give it some attention next time.
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Post by agentzero » 24 Nov 2014, 6:38 pm

Mich wrote:"learning some proper techniques" is a big call coming from someone who does shooting upside down at balloons :roll:


She does a hanging upside down from a tree with a pistol too.

We've all been there :lol:
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Post by whert » 28 Nov 2014, 2:25 pm

agentzero wrote:She does a hanging upside down from a tree with a pistol too.

We've all been there :lol:


I must have missed that... Is that day 2 of the safety course? :lol:
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Post by brett1868 » 28 Nov 2014, 11:32 pm

I've always shoot this way as it just "feels" better to me though not really of any use with the Sako set triggers I use on the little guns. This finger position is also one of the first things they teach you when pistol shooting as the effect of a pull left or right on the trigger is going to make a huge difference to accuracy down range.
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Post by RoginaJack » 29 Nov 2014, 3:40 pm

Yep, she's right on!
I was taught this method by Carl Falke in Grafton (he owned the Trading Post, along with another well known shooter and writer) years ago when I first started shooting with the High School Cadets.
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Post by joojoobeans » 01 Dec 2014, 2:58 pm

I have no idea where mine sits actually.. The finger just lands where it lands.

I'll have to pay attention next time and see how I'm doing.
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Post by jennageit » 15 Dec 2014, 9:39 am

RoginaJack wrote:Yep, she's right on!
I was taught this method by Carl Falke in Grafton (he owned the Trading Post, along with another well known shooter and writer) years ago when I first started shooting with the High School Cadets.
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High School Cadets? How come I didn't get to go to that school????

Regarding trigger finger.

With the Anschutz I use, most comfortable is the pad of my finger and it is a very soft (light maybe) trigger. Good in a target rifle, not so good out hunting I reckon.

With the Lithgow's yesterday, it was in the break between the two pads. I had to put a LOT more pressure on the Lithgows' triggers to get them to fire. Much heavier, and I didn't seem to have the strength in the end of my finger to do it, so needed to 'curl' my finger around the trigger.
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Post by Mark.A » 15 Dec 2014, 11:27 am

It does make sense what she has said.. But ...
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Post by scrolllock » 15 Dec 2014, 3:09 pm

jennageit wrote:I had to put a LOT more pressure on the Lithgows' triggers to get them to fire. Much heavier, and I didn't seem to have the strength in the end of my finger to do it, so needed to 'curl' my finger around the trigger.


You see now why trigger weight gets discussed so much for target shooting.

Straining on the trigger will really bork your shooting when you're going for shooting.

Maybe that's where your last 5 points are hiding ;)
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Post by RoginaJack » 15 Dec 2014, 3:57 pm

I'd suggest that the Lithgow trigger was set at 2kg (factory setting), a bit over 4lbs. and is non adjustable but this spring can be replaced by a 1kg spring (a bit over 2lbs). This will halve the trigger pressure required. This may stop you curling your finger around the trigger - definite no-no or a gunsmith maybe able to polish it up a bit.
Might also have to do a few exercises to strengthen up the trigger finger...

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Post by jennageit » 15 Dec 2014, 4:22 pm

Scrollock & RoginaJack,

Thanks for the tips.

If I was going to buy either of the Lithgows, I'd definitely be looking at a lighter trigger. I think that one of the reasons I found it so difficult was that I'm used to the Anschutz. The trigger on the Anschutz is that light if you were to bump it in the rests, it'd fire. Not something you want out hunting though!

Once I figured out how to squeeze the trigger, it wasn't a problem, and 90% of my shots went through the bullseye at 20m. However, if the rifle was pulled into my shoulder (and not sitting in a bench rest) having to put that much pressure on the trigger would definitely affect my accuracy.

Wonder what my Zastava trigger will be like???

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Post by RoginaJack » 15 Dec 2014, 4:35 pm

Shoot a email off to Beretta or check with your LGS...But I beleive that the trigger is easily adjusted with the stock removed..

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Post by RoginaJack » 15 Dec 2014, 9:52 pm

Jenna, one of the exercises we used to do was "dry firing'. From the Prone position and with the .22 I used a fired "rat shot shell" , to protect the rimfire firing pin from striking the chamber. Have someone walk around behind you and check your position and release etc,

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Post by wheedle » 16 Dec 2014, 1:32 pm

What's the rat shot shell changing over just shooting normal ammo?
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Post by RoginaJack » 16 Dec 2014, 4:00 pm

The .22 rat shot is or was a 22lr rimfire cartridge that was crimped at the end and contained a small charge of shot. It was similar to a shotgun shell and used it for shooting rats, mice etc. It was the same length as a .22 lr but was a full length brass shell. When fired the crimp opened up & out can the shot. A bit rough on the rifling as the shot was loose - not in a hull.

I just used it while practicing "Holding Aiming and Firing" drills to give the firing pin something to strike against and being "full length" shell, would feed through a box magazine or easier to single load . A bit like using a drill round. .

I didn't use it to replace normal ammo but I'd practice the drill in the bedroom in front of a mirror. Learn a lot doing this.

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Post by wheedle » 17 Dec 2014, 10:15 am

RoginaJack wrote:being "full length" shell, would feed through a box magazine or easier to single load . A bit like using a drill round.


Right, right. Makes sense.

That's what I wasn't putting together.
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Post by RoginaJack » 18 Dec 2014, 9:53 am

wheedle wrote:
RoginaJack wrote:being "full length" shell, would feed through a box magazine or easier to single load . A bit like using a drill round.


Right, right. Makes sense.

That's what I wasn't putting together.


That's great wheedle, I should have explained it in a bit more detail in the 1st place. :oops:

I was instructed not to "dry fire" a .22 rimfire or I imagine any rinfire for that matter 'cause there is a chance that the firing pin or chamber could be damaged with nothing for the pin to strike.
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Post by lole » 18 Dec 2014, 12:09 pm

I wasn't following to start either.

"To practice shooting, I shoot with ammo!"

Some revolutionary tactic you've developer there :lol:

Good tip though as you can feed them. Hand feeding an empty case into the chamber and spinning it for the firing pin is a fkn pain.

I used to do that when fiddling with my rimfire and needing to dry fire it.
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