Which Mag System do you Prefer?

[bigfellascott]

DBM or Internal and why, what's your theory on which is better?

Me I like the Internal mag systems better, you can't lose them, can't forget to bring em, their quick to load if you run out and need a quick shot, can be used as single feed only without having to much around with removing a DBM inserting a round and reloading etc, their better if you don't take a shot and unchamber an unfired round, a quick push in and the rounds back in the mag where as most box mags require the removal of the mag to reinsert the unused round.

Anyway give me you version as to why one is better/not better than the other.

[valkyrie]

I prefer DBM because most of the shooting that I do is spotlighting out of a vehicle. Means that I can keep the mag loaded but out of the gun while driving and still have up to ten shots available quickly when something is spotted by putting the mag in and cycling the gun. Much quicker than loading an internal mag

[Westy]

I'm a huge fan of DBM . Lost the bloody mag last trip on the 223 found it on the way home at the servo!!!LOL had to do some shooting with the 6.5 the last day or so!!! Still like the removable Mag myself kind of idiot prof for new shooters!!!

[bigfellascott]

I'm a huge fan of DBM . Lost the bloody mag last trip on the 223 found it on the way home at the servo!!!LOL had to do some shooting with the 6.5 the last day or so!!! Still like the removable Mag myself kind of idiot prof for new shooters!!!

You loose it doing a hold up mate? how the hell do you leave you mag at a servo? No such issues with the Howso's! all internal and I know where they are all the time, no chance of loosing them bastards!

[Westy]

I'm a huge fan of DBM . Lost the bloody mag last trip on the 223 found it on the way home at the servo!!!LOL had to do some shooting with the 6.5 the last day or so!!! Still like the removable Mag myself kind of idiot prof for new shooters!!!

You loose it doing a hold up mate? how the hell do you leave you mag at a servo? No such issues with the Howso's! all internal and I know where they are all the time, no chance of loosing them bastards!

No was shooting from the passenger seat\spotlighting and threw it in the door card late Friday night turned the truck upside down looking for it and went to get my wallet out of the door on the way home to pay for the fuel and found the bastard right were I left it!!!LOL

[bigfellascott]

I'm a huge fan of DBM . Lost the bloody mag last trip on the 223 found it on the way home at the servo!!!LOL had to do some shooting with the 6.5 the last day or so!!! Still like the removable Mag myself kind of idiot prof for new shooters!!!

You loose it doing a hold up mate? how the hell do you leave you mag at a servo? No such issues with the Howso's! all internal and I know where they are all the time, no chance of loosing them bastards!

No was shooting from the passenger seat\spotlighting and threw it in the door card late Friday night turned the truck upside down looking for it and went to get my wallet out of the door on the way home to pay for the fuel and found the bastard right were I left it!!!LOL

You were luck mate, no doubt could have cost a few $$ to replace the bloody thing too.

[Combat_Wombat]

I like internal mag for most shooting especially spotlighting as you can load in the dark. On another note tube magazines are the bloody worst! Nothing more annoying then having to cycle 9 rounds out of a lever action.

[bigfellascott]

I like internal mag for most shooting especially spotlighting as you can load in the dark. On another note tube magazines are the bloody worst! Nothing more annoying then having to cycle 9 rounds out of a lever action.

Yeah I like the internals for spotlighting too, way easier to just drop a round in the port, close the bolt and take the shot, most DBM's you can't do that with and as you said fumbling around in the dark is a PITA and the other thing I don't really like about some of the DBM's is how they hang down and get in the way when shooting out of windows etc.

Internals all the way for me, shame the 22's don't work the same way. And your right about tube mags, those bastards can be dangerous at times if a case hangs up in em and you don't realise, been there had that problem!

[Lorgar]

Internal box mag for sure.

Love the Ruger magazine. Hate the Tikka magazine.

It takes the same time (faster even) to top load directly into the rifle as it does to load a magazine (comparing same number of bullets). A magazine only adds the need to remove it and reinsert it.

For target shooting and hunting where there is no rush to reload there is no purpose to having a detachable mag IMO. The only exception would be high-capacity mags for culls where more than 3-4 shots would be done in quick succession, but that's fraction of shooters out there.

The Scout has a 10 shot detachable mag for example. How many hunters rattle through 10 shots with a bolt action and need to instantly change out for another 10? That'd be one big herd of really fat, really slow pigs...

[Westy]

X2 on the tubes pain in the ass, great if your a yank as they have safety's to rely on!!!LOL

[FuzzyM]

I much prefer DBM's. Both of my rifles have detachable mags, the Axis a small flush mounted one, a 10 round one for the MKII.

When out hunting, it is so much easier to pop my mags out to legally cross a walking track or road.
Two of my mates have internals, they have to pop the trapdoor or cycle the rounds out when they want to legally cross a thoroughfare etc.

I would like a 5 round mag for my MKII so it doesn't stick out as far sometimes, but like everything they are way overpriced in this country (for a little folded metal .22 magazine anyway).

[bigfellascott]

I prefer DBM because most of the shooting that I do is spotlighting out of a vehicle. Means that I can keep the mag loaded but out of the gun while driving and still have up to ten shots available quickly when something is spotted by putting the mag in and cycling the gun. Much quicker than loading an internal mag

Internal mags are quicker mate, all you do is load em and if you don't want to have a round chambered you just push down on the round and close the bolt over it, that way its just a matter of opening and closing the bolt and you're ready to rock and roll.

People seem to think if you load the internal mag you have to chamber a round to close the bolt, nothing could be further from the truth.

[bigfellascott]

I much prefer DBM's. Both of my rifles have detachable mags, the Axis a small flush mounted one, a 10 round one for the MKII.

When out hunting, it is so much easier to pop my mags out to legally cross a walking track or road.
Two of my mates have internals, they have to pop the trapdoor or cycle the rounds out when they want to legally cross a thoroughfare etc.

I would like a 5 round mag for my MKII so it doesn't stick out as far sometimes, but like everything they are way overpriced in this country (for a little folded metal .22 magazine anyway).

You make sure of the regs regarding loaded mags mate, you could get into trouble (in NSW I think they consider the rifle loaded if the mags have rounds in em even if they are removed from the rifle! , not sure what Vics like but best to double check before she goes pair shaped.

[RDobber]

Hate the Tikka magazine.

Never thought I'd hear a harsh word about the Tikka from you

[bigfellascott]

Internal box mag for sure.

Love the Ruger magazine. Hate the Tikka magazine.

It takes the same time (faster even) to top load directly into the rifle as it does to load a magazine (comparing same number of bullets). A magazine only adds the need to remove it and reinsert it.

For target shooting and hunting where there is no rush to reload there is no purpose to having a detachable mag IMO. The only exception would be high-capacity mags for culls where more than 3-4 shots would be done in quick succession, but that's fraction of shooters out there.

The Scout has a 10 shot detachable mag for example. How many hunters rattle through 10 shots with a bolt action and need to instantly change out for another 10? That'd be one big herd of really fat, really slow pigs...

One of the reasons I really like the Internal Mags is the easy of which to just drop a round in and close the bolt, I quite often use them like that when spotlighting and it works well from a safety point of view and even if I do fully load the mag and then forget to reload I can just quickly drop one in the port, close the bolt and take the shot, with the DBM setups you usually have to drop the mag out, load then reinsert and cycle the bolt and well the bastards gone by then You know what I mean. and I don't even have to lift my head of the stock to do it either,

[Lorgar]

Never thought I'd hear a harsh word about the Tikka from you

Just a pragmatist mate, not a fanboy

If my Tikka had an internal mag I could top load.... The perfect rifle (for me).

You know what I mean.

I do

[bigfellascott]

Never thought I'd hear a harsh word about the Tikka from you

Just a pragmatist mate, not a fanboy

If my Tikka had an internal mag I could top load.... The perfect rifle (for me).

You know what I mean.

I do

You'll need to step up to the more expensive version mate or you could just buy a Howso and be done with it for a 3rd the price

[Westy]

Internal box mag for sure.

Love the Ruger magazine. Hate the Tikka magazine.

It takes the same time (faster even) to top load directly into the rifle as it does to load a magazine (comparing same number of bullets). A magazine only adds the need to remove it and reinsert it.

For target shooting and hunting where there is no rush to reload there is no purpose to having a detachable mag IMO. The only exception would be high-capacity mags for culls where more than 3-4 shots would be done in quick succession, but that's fraction of shooters out there.

The Scout has a 10 shot detachable mag for example. How many hunters rattle through 10 shots with a bolt action and need to instantly change out for another 10? That'd be one big herd of really fat, really slow pigs...

One of the reasons I really like the Internal Mags is the easy of which to just drop a round in and close the bolt, I quite often use them like that when spotlighting and it works well from a safety point of view and even if I do fully load the mag and then forget to reload I can just quickly drop one in the port, close the bolt and take the shot, with the DBM setups you usually have to drop the mag out, load then reinsert and cycle the bolt and well the bastards gone by then You know what I mean. and I don't even have to lift my head of the stock to do it either,

You keep talking about having to load the mag all the time Scott not true with the tikka !!!Just let the plastic tongue on the mag hang out and you can top load just as quick as any floor plate rifle!!!

[bigfellascott]

Internal box mag for sure.

Love the Ruger magazine. Hate the Tikka magazine.

It takes the same time (faster even) to top load directly into the rifle as it does to load a magazine (comparing same number of bullets). A magazine only adds the need to remove it and reinsert it.

For target shooting and hunting where there is no rush to reload there is no purpose to having a detachable mag IMO. The only exception would be high-capacity mags for culls where more than 3-4 shots would be done in quick succession, but that's fraction of shooters out there.

The Scout has a 10 shot detachable mag for example. How many hunters rattle through 10 shots with a bolt action and need to instantly change out for another 10? That'd be one big herd of really fat, really slow pigs...

One of the reasons I really like the Internal Mags is the easy of which to just drop a round in and close the bolt, I quite often use them like that when spotlighting and it works well from a safety point of view and even if I do fully load the mag and then forget to reload I can just quickly drop one in the port, close the bolt and take the shot, with the DBM setups you usually have to drop the mag out, load then reinsert and cycle the bolt and well the bastards gone by then You know what I mean. and I don't even have to lift my head of the stock to do it either,

You keep talking about having to load the mag all the time Scott not true with the tikka !!!Just let the plastic tongue on the mag hang out and you can top load just as quick as any floor plate rifle!!!

For some reason I though they had issues with being able to do that? I'm sure that was a bug bear with some who used them at the range, I think they even made a single load ramp for em? (confused look on face)

[headspace]

All 4 rifles in my safe are centrefires and all of them have internal mags with a drop down trapdoor. For most hunting you don't get much more than a second shot if that. Internal mags don't fall out and don't get left at servo's (sorry westy) I don't like a rifle that you can't top load or single load with ease. Too many Euro style letter box style ejection ports. The preference in all hunting is one shot one animal. I know that doesn't always happen, but 10 rounds???
JD

[bigfellascott]

All 4 rifles in my safe are centrefires and all of them have internal mags with a drop down trapdoor. For most hunting you don't get much more than a second shot if that. Internal mags don't fall out and don't get left at servo's (sorry westy) I don't like a rifle that you can't top load or single load with ease. Too many Euro style letter box style ejection ports. The preference in all hunting is one shot one animal. I know that doesn't always happen, but 10 rounds???
JD

Yes I'm yet to let 5 off trying to shoot fur let alone 10! f***ing dreaming if you really need that many you really need to practice more

[on_one_wheel]

There is one thing you will never do with a internal mag and thats leave it at home. They also are mighty quick to empty with a drop plate floor.

[bigfellascott]

There is one thing you will never do with a internal mag and thats leave it at home. They also are mighty quick to empty with a drop plate floor.

How true or a Servo for that matter! (sorry Westy) that was a pissa of a story, that's a first for me!

[brett1868]

No mention of the Sako mag...double stack, can be removed, sits flush on the stock and can be top loaded so I believe it to be one of the best I've come across. Of the big guns I like the DTA mags only because the rounds are secured at the shoulder which prevents projectile damage from recoil. Definitely not a fan of Steyr mags purely because they are way over priced.

[bigfellascott]

No mention of the Sako mag...double stack, can be removed, sits flush on the stock and can be top loaded so I believe it to be one of the best I've come across. Of the big guns I like the DTA mags only because the rounds are secured at the shoulder which prevents projectile damage from recoil. Definitely not a fan of Steyr mags purely because they are way over priced.

Yep by far the best I've seen to Brett, the best of both worlds - hard to beat for a fantastic design, I wonder if there are any other brands out there doing the same/similar? Only issue I see with them if forgetting to bring it or losing it other than that its perfect.

[Combat_Wombat]

I have a 5 shot double stack mag on my CDL and it top loads brilliantly although I only ever put 4 rounds in it because it feeds a lot smoother like that. Only thing I can fault it on is it's slightly loose and rattles a bit but I'm considering attaching it to the stock more permanently. Any ideas how without getting out the welder? I've heard some people use sikaflex but I'm not keen on that at all.

[bigfellascott]

I have a 5 shot double stack mag on my CDL and it top loads brilliantly although I only ever put 4 rounds in it because it feeds a lot smoother like that. Only thing I can fault it on is it's slightly loose and rattles a bit but I'm considering attaching it to the stock more permanently. Any ideas how without getting out the welder? I've heard some people use sikaflex but I'm not keen on that at all.

The good ol rattling mag, another drawback of some DBM's maybe some sort of tape might help mate?

[valkyrie]

The 10 rounds are helpful when you come over a rise and are presented with multiple targets (bunnies)

[brett1868]

No mention of the Sako mag...double stack, can be removed, sits flush on the stock and can be top loaded so I believe it to be one of the best I've come across. Of the big guns I like the DTA mags only because the rounds are secured at the shoulder which prevents projectile damage from recoil. Definitely not a fan of Steyr mags purely because they are way over priced.

Yep by far the best I've seen to Brett, the best of both worlds - hard to beat for a fantastic design, I wonder if there are any other brands out there doing the same/similar? Only issue I see with them if forgetting to bring it or losing it other than that its perfect.

I only ever drop the mag to clean the action and put it back in when done so no chance of forgetting it. Takes 2 actions to remove it, push in, release catch and allow to drop so it's not likely to fall out in a hurry and get lost. I don't even bother removing it to load as I just top load anyway.
The Ruger 10/22 style mag is another favourite of mine, quite small, cheap to buy, flush fitting with the only downside being that loading them is slow compared to regular double stack mags.

[Westy]

For some reason I though they had issues with being able to do that? I'm sure that was a bug bear with some who used them at the range, I think they even made a single load ramp for em? (confused look on face)

Wow I'm going to have to make my first video and post it here this could be fun??? Bugger will ask the daughter how to do this she's knows everything. she gets it off her mother!!!!LOL