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New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by JJCASEY » 31 Jan 2015, 10:07 am

Hi guys,

I'm new to the sport and game hunting I want to know the best 243, 300win/mag and 12g out there that's the best value for money.
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by RoginaJack » 31 Jan 2015, 10:23 am

Simple - How long is a piece of string and how deep is ya wallet?? :sarcasm:
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by North East » 31 Jan 2015, 10:34 am

New to guns and want to get a .300WM??? :unknown:
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by Jack V » 31 Jan 2015, 10:34 am

It's not as simple as that . What is best for you may not suit the other guy.

The best way to use a forum like this is to ask a single specific question after giving some background on , how you will use the gun , in what conditions , terrain etc and on what type of game

There are many classes and types of guns all used for different reasons so to answer your several questions with no other input would take a book , So why don't you start with the 243 question and give us a run down on what you would use the 243 for .

That way you get more specific answers to that one question and less confusion.

Later ask the other questions in the same way .
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by Combat_Wombat » 31 Jan 2015, 10:42 am

I'll save south west saying it you will want three 30-06s because they do EVERYTHING!!! :sarcasm:

In all seriousness that's a good combo just throw in a cheap 22 and you're set
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by 1290 » 31 Jan 2015, 11:39 am

Combat_Wombat wrote:I'll save south west saying it you will want three 30-06s because they do EVERYTHING!!! :sarcasm:

In all seriousness that's a good combo just throw in a cheap 22 and you're set


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But yes OP, you need to narrow down your query, best in what respect; perceived accuracy, portability durability....

But if you're new to shooting, a 22 rimfire for cheap plinking, a 12g shotty, a do-all centrefire like a 308win, cheapish plentiful ammo supply, something a bit smaller, 223 or even a 243, then something a bit bigger .....
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by Warrigul » 31 Jan 2015, 12:16 pm

JJCASEY wrote:Hi guys,

I'm new to the sport and game hunting I want to know the best 243, 300win/mag and 12g out there that's the best value for money.


It seems a pretty simple answer to me, I presume it is for hunting.

Pushing calibres aside the Howas are best value for money rifle in my humble opinion but a TIKKA is better. A howa and a scope can be had for well under $1000

Shotguns? well any of the new breed of Turkish guns seem okay from what I see and a 28" or 30" barrel with chokes can be had for well under $1000, for a little bit more you could have a Lanber or something a bit better.


Good luck, for what it is worth I have a .300WM and in my opinion a .30/06 is just as good for hunting and in all honesty a .308 isn't far behind. A .300 is hard on barrels and more rifle than you need for many things(but nice to have if you do need it) and as 1290 said a .308 is cheap to run..

Good luck.
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by Jack V » 31 Jan 2015, 2:18 pm

That's only what you would buy , not what's best for him .
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by JJCASEY » 31 Jan 2015, 2:20 pm

Yeah sounds good.
I just brought a friends 303 today with bushnells scope so I'll play with that and head towards a .308
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by Warrigul » 31 Jan 2015, 3:09 pm

JJCASEY wrote:Yeah sounds good.
I just brought a friends 303 today with bushnells scope so I'll play with that and head towards a .308
Thanks guys


Good choice, in my very humble opinion a .303 will do pretty much everything a .308 will do, at hunting ranges, perhaps not as accurate as a .308 but if sorted properly it won't be far off.

Disclaimer: I am a bit biased when it comes to .303's.
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by 1290 » 31 Jan 2015, 3:23 pm

Warrigul wrote:Good choice, in my very humble opinion a .303 will do pretty much everything a .308 will do, at hunting ranges, perhaps not as accurate as a .308 but if sorted properly it won't be far off.

Disclaimer: I am a bit biased when it comes to .303's.


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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by aekpani » 01 Feb 2015, 5:59 pm

Hi,

I am new to rifles as well, I cant give you advise while there are many well experienced and respected member are here who can give you better advise.

I was in the market for .308, but I bought .300 WSM Tikka, scoped it with Nikon Prostaff. I bought it for hunting, so at range I shoot max five shots a time just to keep it zerod.

my second gun is level action .30-30 and just to satisfy need of military surplus rifle I have mosin nagant m91/30 7.62x54r

Ofcourse plinker is .22 marlin XT-22 Varmint barrel.

For shot gun I am in market for under $2000 made in spain or Italy gun..

I hope this helps
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by RDobber » 03 Feb 2015, 11:12 am

JJCASEY wrote: I'm new to the sport and game hunting I want to know the best 243, 300win/mag and 12g out there that's the best value for money.


I like my Tikkas. They are generally very accurate out of the box and for the quality and accuracy they're reasonably priced, IMO.

I'm assuming with the cartridge choices here the .243 will be a varmint and small game gun while the .300wm will be the large game gun (duh).

If you're looking at buying new...

A Tikka T3 Lite is about $1,000. Less if you get a Lite with a synthetic stock, more if you get a model with a walnut stock.

Putting a Leupold VX-1 3-9x40mm on your .300wm will cost you about $300.

A VX1 4-12x on the .243 for a bit more magnification for varminting is about $400.

Call it $1,400 per rifle average to do it all new. Second hand could be done 25% cheaper or whatever.

My 2c. Will leave the shotgun advice to someone more in the know.
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by Tiiger » 03 Feb 2015, 11:16 am

North East wrote:New to guns and want to get a .300WM??? :unknown:


That is a lot of gun for a new shooter jjcasey.

Starting off on too larger cartridge many people find they develop a flinch which is hard to shake later even on smaller ones.

.243 is a decent centrefire starter though, and will still let you do plenty of hunting while you're getting used to things.

Bit off topic but I'd suggest maybe you start with something like that before you get behind the .300wm.
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by 1290 » 03 Feb 2015, 12:35 pm

Back in the day my second centrefire was a 300winmag..... I never developed a flflflflinch.... :lol:

Seriously, doesnt matter, I say shoot it. shoot it a lot (mostly off the bench) then somewhere in all that fun'n'games learn how to shoot it properly and you'll be right. Test for a flinch by getting a mate to put a dummy round in the mag for you..... Once you're used to the 300 the 243 will feel like a 22 :thumbsup:
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Re: New to guns - Want advice on a 243, 300wm and 12g

Post by Norton » 04 Feb 2015, 9:51 am

Don't be intimidated, the points above are valid but it's not like it takes years of practice on smaller stuff to get prepared for the larger ones.

A couple of trips to the range, a few shots on something smaller, have a few shots on something bigger and see how you're feeling.

Could be just fine.
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