The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

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Post by KWhorenet » 09 Mar 2015, 11:43 am

Chronos wrote:
KWhorenet wrote:Hey Chronos you don't have any spare UK SportsMatch Tikka mounts do you :lol:

Yes mate, unopened.....how badly do you want them ;)
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haha just jokes (at this stage) as the reason I sold them was due to not having a Tikka :oops:
But time will tell once I start mucking about swapping scopes around here.


Swarm wrote:Awwww you didn't get to carry her over the threshold? :lol:


I had to wiki the 'Threshold' . Thought you meant breaking her in haha
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by Jorge in Oz » 09 Mar 2015, 12:08 pm

Try Gold Coast Shooters I think they had olf Tikka steel mags for arounf the $90 mark. Here is their link. http://www.gcshooters.com.au/magazines.htm

I use to hunt reds in Qld with a Tikka LSA 65 in 270 Win. Best rifle I have owned, kicking myself for getting rid of it. It was so accurate.
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by KWhorenet » 09 Mar 2015, 12:43 pm

Jorge in Oz wrote:Try Gold Coast Shooters I think they had olf Tikka steel mags for arounf the $90 mark. Here is their link. http://www.gcshooters.com.au/magazines.htm

I use to hunt reds in Qld with a Tikka LSA 65 in 270 Win. Best rifle I have owned, kicking myself for getting rid of it. It was so accurate.


Thanks for link and feedback on the LSA-65 / M65 I have my eyes open for one too.


That is a good price on the 22-250/243/308 metal mag btw. Anyone wanting one should snap that up.
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They have at least 1 in stock. But none for 17rem/223/204
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by Westy » 09 Mar 2015, 5:55 pm

I got one in 22-250 great rifle will post some pics later tonight, must of had it for over 20 plus years Tikka and Sako fan boy here!!!Always were and will be a quality act
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by heeple » 09 Mar 2015, 6:04 pm

Westy wrote:I got one in 22-250 great rifle will post some pics later tonight, must of had it for over 20 plus years Tikka and Sako fan boy here!!!Always were and will be a quality act


Just for kicks. What's your pick on new vs old Westy?

Much improved in 20 years?
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by Westy » 09 Mar 2015, 6:48 pm

heeple wrote:
Westy wrote:I got one in 22-250 great rifle will post some pics later tonight, must of had it for over 20 plus years Tikka and Sako fan boy here!!!Always were and will be a quality act


Just for kicks. What's your pick on new vs old Westy?

Much improved in 20 years?

Old was a nice rifle with all steel mag and all steel trigger guard the action isn't as smooth as the new t3's and it doesn't shoot as well as the new T3's IMHO... the trigger is crisp and I do like the wood finish on this rifle but it is a little on the heavy side!!!!!
It's like a good friend and I wouldn't sell it anytime soon but in saying that the over all package is a 1970's rifle and the new T3's in say a forester with the wood stock and roll over check piece are a better rifle IMHO.. People here hang s**t on them being plastic but mostly their talking Crap as they have know idea what their talking about!!! I have 6 Tikkas in the safe 5 T3s and the old 22-250 and to date haven't had to change the bolt shroud except by choice on any of the new ones and the Magazines have preformed perfect after 100's and even 1000's of rounds on one!!!!!
If you want a old style Tikka in a new rifle my suggestion is buy a Sako but IMHO their a lot of coin for something that still shoot no better than a $1000 Tikka
So in short I like the new T3 better but I'm not a Romantic @ heart :o :shock: 8-)
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by heeple » 10 Mar 2015, 9:48 am

Westy wrote:Old was a nice rifle with all steel mag and all steel trigger guard the action isn't as smooth as the new t3's and it doesn't shoot as well as the new T3's IMHO... the trigger is crisp and I do like the wood finish on this rifle but it is a little on the heavy side!!!!!


" a little on the heavy side!!!!!"

People knock the Tikka for the plastic but you can't say it doesn't help the weight :thumbsup:
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Got new brass yeh!!!

Post by KWhorenet » 11 Mar 2015, 3:39 pm

The Tikka M55 17 Rem is booked in to get re-crowned (+ maybe remove worn rifling). Quoted $50 so wont be haggling or doing it myself.

Anyone want to buy a kidney?
Spendy couple of days, but I wont be needing brass, powder, primers, pills or cleaning gear for a while. Lucky I don't have kids I guess 8-)
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Re: Got new brass yeh!!!

Post by melanie » 12 Mar 2015, 11:05 am

KWhorenet wrote:Lucky I don't have kids I guess 8-)


Thought you had a furbaby, wasn't there a big pooch in your avatar photo before?
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Re: Got new brass yeh!!!

Post by KWhorenet » 12 Mar 2015, 12:29 pm

melanie wrote:Thought you had a furbaby, wasn't there a big pooch in your avatar photo before?


You are right. I have one dependant needy child. Actually to be honest he has cost me as much as a few kids might lately with vet bills :x

But he wuvs me haha
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Re: Got new brass yeh!!!

Post by Octane » 12 Mar 2015, 2:49 pm

KWhorenet wrote:Actually to be honest he has cost me as much as a few kids might lately with vet bills :x


Breed related problems or just normal injury/sickness stuff?
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Re: Got new brass yeh!!!

Post by Lorgar » 12 Mar 2015, 2:51 pm

KWhorenet wrote:But he wuvs me haha


My girls likes giving hugs. With a 50m run up. And no brakes. :lol:
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Re: Got new brass yeh!!!

Post by KWhorenet » 12 Mar 2015, 5:19 pm

Octane wrote:Breed related problems or just normal injury/sickness stuff?


He had prostate issues, then bleeding from somewhere between his prick - bladder - kidneys - prostate ?? So meds + scans + meds + xrays + neutering + ultrasounds + meds...then it all stopped.

Now he has itchy skin so meds + special shampoo + special damned cream + washing often.

Not sure if it is common in Rotties or not.

Lorgar wrote:My girls likes giving hugs. With a 50m run up. And no brakes. :lol:


Mines now 7 so slowly grown out of that although he will get excited and jump tackle still. I did do a few face plants back in his younger years with his full run up and knee tackles especially when carrying firewood, bloody d**khead he was :D
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Stripping for clean recrown and tidy up

Post by KWhorenet » 12 Mar 2015, 7:08 pm

Used up the 78 rounds it came with and decided to strip and inspect before getting the barrel recrowned.
Looks pretty good with only the few minor rust spots to clean off and treat. None that I hadn't already seen which is good.
Cleaning tonight although not as bad as I expected :thumbsup:

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I'm guessing 84 is the year stamp. Being a fairly late S/No for this model it makes sense.
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Trigger mech seems sound. No noticeable wear or butchering.
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Looks ok. No cracks. Not butchered. Looks like it was coated with a stain of some sort as seen by the splash down the inside. Wouldn't mind chemically stripping and just oiling it one day. Not sure what the stamped number 2 represents: Grade#? Production line #?
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22" barrel. No real dings but bluing mostly worn away, crown looks like it has seen better days as does the rifling in the last 1/2 inch. May need to set back crown or even lop a bit off first.
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by bigfellascott » 12 Mar 2015, 8:19 pm

Looking good mate, how did she shoot?
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by KWhorenet » 12 Mar 2015, 8:51 pm

bigfellascott wrote:Looking good mate, how did she shoot?


Started with the Redfield that was on it but something was up. Struggled to adjust it anywhere near ok. The previous owner telling me he had just put it on loosely and not sighted in. hmmm ? Will wack the Redfield on the 22 hornet and see if I can get it close with that. May rule out scope problem.

Tried my other scope which I know has no issues. 4/6 under an inch at 80m, the other 2 were typically high right. I cant be sure of his mates reloads, hottish barrel, the barrel it's self or just me to blame :silent:

Giving it the sweets 7.62 treatment tonight and a good scrub. I hope it's something cheap n simple like his reloads (uneven charge) or the crown.
Hoping to have a good chat with the local smith before he takes it. Will work it out.
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by bigfellascott » 12 Mar 2015, 8:58 pm

Hopefully it will be something simple mate, hard to tell until you go through everything a rule it out hey. :thumbsup:
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by KWhorenet » 12 Mar 2015, 9:40 pm

True, and next time I'm not using the ute tray as my bench either haha sat a cup of coffee on it today and a bit of wind was enough to buffer it around allot :| Another thing to cross off...oh yeah that's another 'ME' as the fault :lol:
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by bigfellascott » 12 Mar 2015, 10:00 pm

KWhorenet wrote:True, and next time I'm not using the ute tray as my bench either haha sat a cup of coffee on it today and a bit of wind was enough to buffer it around allot :| Another thing to cross off...oh yeah that's another 'ME' as the fault :lol:


:lol: :lol: might need to make ya self some sandbags, they seem to work alright for my needs. :thumbsup:
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Re: Got new brass yeh!!!

Post by Lorgar » 13 Mar 2015, 8:56 am

KWhorenet wrote:Mines now 7 so slowly grown out of that although he will get excited and jump tackle still. I did do a few face plants back in his younger years with his full run up and knee tackles especially when carrying firewood, bloody d**khead he was :D


My girl is only 2 still a few years of over-excitement in her. No drama with her health yet thankfully, she a cross so I tell my self that will keep her healthy. We'll see what the next few years bring I guess.

My most dramatic spill so far has been taking her for a run while riding the push-bike. She's fine doing it, runs along side at the same pace and I can tell her to heel/back for right/left corners and we get around fine.

Then there was the rabbit :lol:

We were going along a mottled concrete path just after sunrise so it was still pretty dim. Neither of us saw it until about 2 metres away as it blended in to the concrete well in the low light.

She was running on the left of the bike, rabbit realises we're coming at him and runs off the to the right. As soon as the movement alerts her to the rabbit she goes into high gear and overtakes me across the front of the bike and I hit the brakes as the leash goes into the forks/wheel.

*Weeeeeeeee* *crash* into a Telstra box :lol:
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Lands seem to have grown taller with sharper edges :D

Post by KWhorenet » 13 Mar 2015, 3:57 pm

Well cleaning this Tikka barrel has had it's downs and ups :huh:

Lands seem to have grown taller with sharper edges haha more like the Grooves were filled !!


Last night:
Just did an oiled patch then dry for a look. Looked ok. Rifling not greatly pronounced but reasonable.

Scrubbed with Sweets 7.62 and CLP Break Free repeatedly.

Sweets 7.62, 5 times. Copper galore.
CLP scrub and soak. Dark crud flaking away around the throat (best I can describe without pictures... yeah yeah I know).
CPL scrub + heavy coat again to sit over night.

Today:
More black crud came away. Thinking it is baked on carbon/crap like glass. :thumbsdown:
Scrubbed with Sweets twice again. Using a plastic loop, more copper :lol:

Rinsed and patched dry
CLP scrub and it's soaking again. This is becoming a work in progress.


Found something odd with the mounts. One had two pointed grub screws, the other used longer flatter tipped grub screws? Either two were replaced or they are meant have one of each fitted, not paired like they were.
One mount also has a bent tensioner stud. Just straightening it gently.
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by Westy » 13 Mar 2015, 7:13 pm

That thing is going to a sweet shooter by the time your finished with her!!!! Good luck and can't wait to see the final product KW
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by RDobber » 14 Mar 2015, 9:38 am

No effort spared on checking it out :thumbsup:
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by KWhorenet » 14 Mar 2015, 11:03 am

I've never stripped and played this deep on any of my previous toys. It needed some TLC. Glad I persisted with the barrel. It looks like a different beast now with deep grooves and clear defined lands all of a sudden. Well two days on n off deep cleaning :shock:

Fixed the bent stud no worries. Still not sure about these grub screws. Not something google is good at helping me with :O
Two pointed and two flat (look like an after thought or lost replacements).
They are meant to push in against an angled post knob to lock the rings down to the bases and they can be adjusted for 'windage' / alignment. I'm thinking a laser bore sighter would help with aligning all this up with the scope dials both set to neutral.


If anyone has this type set up or seen it any advice on the grub screws in the above pic would be appreciated.
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5 days of cleaning/soaking twice daily...still removing cr

Post by KWhorenet » 16 Mar 2015, 4:50 pm

Any one ever bought old 2nd hand and bothered trying to clean the bore till it was spotless?

My daily routine: Patch out CLP till dry, Sweets 7.62 + clean. CLP + Nylon brush and sit 6 hours. Nylon brush, reapply CLP to soak rest of day. Patch out more crud from the grooves as seen by pattern on patch. CLP soak over night.

I can tell there is a huge difference from day 1 - 2 - 3 till today. The grooves are deeper beyond recognition. I have an endoscope/ bore-scope in the mail so will finally get to have a good look inside chamber and bore next week.

I may not be improving it or really achieving much but it is interesting to see what I initially thought was clean day 1 and how much gunk I have removed each day thereafter.
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TIKKA M65A lusting

Post by KWhorenet » 16 Mar 2015, 5:04 pm

On another note; I shouldn't even entertain the idea but I would like to acquire one of these from the UK...
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by Rocker » 18 Mar 2015, 11:01 am

Pointed for one mount, flat for the other?

Some subtle distance in front and back or something maybe?
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Re: TIKKA M65A lusting

Post by bigfellascott » 18 Mar 2015, 11:22 am

KWhorenet wrote:On another note; I shouldn't even entertain the idea but I would like to acquire one of these from the UK...


Interesting looking rifle mate, what sort of $$ are they going for?
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Re: The TIKKA Thread ~ Pre T3 for something different

Post by KWhorenet » 18 Mar 2015, 11:38 am

Rocker wrote:Pointed for one mount, flat for the other?

Some subtle distance in front and back or something maybe?


I think you nailed it from what I read. Pointed for the front and flat for the back. Allowed the front to have slack done up (no tension yet) and centered allowing movement while adjusting the rear alignment horizontally. Seems to be working.
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Re: TIKKA M65A lusting

Post by KWhorenet » 18 Mar 2015, 11:56 am

bigfellascott wrote:
KWhorenet wrote:On another note; I shouldn't even entertain the idea but I would like to acquire one of these from the UK...


Interesting looking rifle mate, what sort of $$ are they going for?


Issued to UK Police as a potential urban sniper rifle (bit like the Tikka 22-250 here in Aus was)
Only 700 made ?. 100 destroyed? by police leaving hens teeth left.
The stock being adjustable for heigt is ok, BUT not sure how much it adjusts for length. Limit of 120 mm apparently...
http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resou ... ations.pdf
"New definitions have been added to Regulation 4F:
i. adjustable stock means a stock that may be adjusted by more than 120mm
Practical effect—stocks that were previously controlled as telescopic or collapsible stocks under the Regulations may no longer be controlled under Regulations, where the length of adjustment is less than 120mm.
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Have seen bare rifle go from 800 - 1000 UK pounds. Getting one that hasn't been mismatched (wood, receiver, serial numbers) will be a test in it self.
Have feelers out in the UK now. One guy I'm in contact with who recently got one may be onto a couple more to sus out soon.

Mum keeps asking what I want for xmas/b'day and I always say no thanks... maybe this year ;)
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