Re-chambering a 22-250

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Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by HiFiRobbie » 11 Mar 2015, 11:03 pm

Howdy all,

As the title suggests, I have an aging Rem 700 in 22-250 which is shot-out and needs re-barrelling/re-chambering.

Looking for any ideas/recommendations you may have in this area.

I already have access to a 22-250 Ackley Improved, so I'm not really looking to go down that path, but was thinking maybe .243 or something else in that length action to turn it into a bit more of a small-medium game item.

Would appreciate any input you have to offer.

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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by Pitty » 12 Mar 2015, 7:25 am

Depending on what your purpose for the rifle is, the 243 would be ok.
Anything in the 308 based caliber or 30 06, but the 06 would be too long!
What about a 260?
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by 1290 » 12 Mar 2015, 7:44 am

Get rid of it and buy yourself a good rifle!! :lol: :lol: here comes the remchester crew.. :sarcasm: ...easy fellas, I got a rem myself, yes I know, what was I thinking....

Honestly, unless you have a particular attachment to the rifle, in the current market (prices WILL be increasing, thanks RBA) its easier, possibly cheaper to replace the rifle!! Worst case you may be out of pocket slightly... plus you're smith wont give you a 6month etz that turns into 12months!

An alternative, to stretching a bit more life before a rebarrel, may be to clean up the throat...and a recrown.
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by Techc » 12 Mar 2015, 2:31 pm

What other rifles do you already have? What are they chambered in?

Might suggest something you've already got without knowing ;)
.223 Remington Savage Model 12 FV
.308 Remington 700 SPS tactical
Leupold VX-3 6.5-20x40mm
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by Herdsman » 12 Mar 2015, 2:33 pm

Yeah, no point having 22-250 and the AI.

You already got a game rifle? .270 or .308 or whatever?

If so .243 Win or .260 Rem would both be good.
Shepherding bullets down range.

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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by HiFiRobbie » 12 Mar 2015, 5:52 pm

Yeah, it would make sense to let you guys know what I DON'T need, I guess! :oops:

My own collection currently consists of a Tikka T3 in .223, a Browning A-Bolt in .270 and a Brno Model 2 .22 LR.

The father in-law has a pretty broad compliment including .22 (Brno Model 1) , .222, .223, 22-250 (the rifle in question), 22-250 AI, ,243, .25-06, .270, .308 and a couple of others I can't quite recall, but I know there's no .260 in there, so that may be a good idea, but we also tossed around the idea of a 7mm.

Any thoughts or opinions/experiences on the .260 or 7mm? Are they an economical item as far as reloading goes?

Either of them not worth entertaining the thought of?

Again, any information greatly appreciated.
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by yoshie » 12 Mar 2015, 8:04 pm

260 but I'm biased (it and the 6.5x55 would have to be the best all-around cal for Australia) 7-08 is too close to your 270 and 308. What about a 358 federal, everyone needs a big bore!
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by Westy » 12 Mar 2015, 8:56 pm

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I',m hearing some music playing right now Yoshie
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by HiFiRobbie » 12 Mar 2015, 10:06 pm

My shoulder is already bruising at the thought of anything over .308!

I am leaning more and more toward the .260, the more I read.

I don't think we need another .22 cal in the family and the .260 looks like a nice efficient round which should take down a decent deer without too much trouble. It will mean another size of primer to keep in stock, so that's one possible kind of downside, I guess.

I've heard mixed stories with the 6.5mm, which could possibly be due to it's lesser popularity - Can't really say as I've never shot one, myself.

So much to read and learn before the big decision... :?
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by 1290 » 12 Mar 2015, 10:10 pm

Westy wrote:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by Korkt » 13 Mar 2015, 9:57 am

.243 or .260

Nothing against the .260, with what you've got the .243 stands out as a bit better places to me. 2c.

.22, .243, .270.... Nice spread.

Go flatter/faster with the lighter pills in the .243, or load up some 80gr - 100gr for medium game cartridges.

Both good options though. Just thinking out loud.
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by yoshie » 13 Mar 2015, 12:39 pm

If you're rebarreling the rifle you can choose a barrel profile and twist ratio to suit. If your 270 is a sporter I'd look at making something different like a varmint rifle, something you can lay down with and pick off small things from along way off. 22-250 or 243 would be a good choice, I do this with my 260, it's not too big for rabbits but still enough for pigs and deer. Maybe even something fancy like 6BR or 6.5 Grendal and use your small primers. Alternatively you could do a short barreled rifle with a 1-4 power or dot scope.You need to think about what hole in your collection needs filling, what do you want to do with it? Or trade it in, people are always looking for those actions to make target rifles
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by 1290 » 13 Mar 2015, 2:36 pm

Dont worry about your shoulder, When I started out I ghad some whoppers, but then I LEARNT HOW TO SHOOT IT!!

without modifying the bolt face, you can rebarrel to either of these;

6,5 x 54 Mauser
6,5 x 58 Mauser
8 x 56 M.-Sch.
240 Belt. Riml. N.E.
318 Riml. N.E.
8 x 75 S
9 x 56 Mannl. Sch.
9,5 x 57 Mannl. Sch.
45 GAP
5,6 x 57
6,5 x 57
6,5 x 64
6,5 x 65 RWS
7 x 64
7,92 x 33 Kurz
8 x 51 (Mauser K)
8 x 57 I
8 x 57 IS
8 x 60
8 x 60 S
9 x 57
9,3 x 62
9,3 x 66 Sako
240 Weath. Mag.
8 x 64
8 x 64 S
22-250 Rem
220 Swift
225 Win.
243 Win.
25-06 Rem.
250 Savage
257 Roberts
260 Rem.
264 Leroy N.E.
270 Win.
280 Rem.
284 Win.
30 - 284 Win.
30-06 Court Cartry
30-06 Spring.
300 CR
300 Savage
308 EH
308 Win.
35 Whelen
357 Auto Mag.
358 Win.
45 Blaser
6 mm BR Rem.
6 mm Rem. (244 Rem.)
6 x 47 SM
6,5 - 284 Norma
6,5 x 47 Lapua
6,5 x 64 Brenneke
6mm BR Norma
7 mm - 08 Rem.
7 mm BR Rem.
7 mm Exp. Rem.
8,5 x 63
45 HP
7,65 x 53 Arg.
275 H. V. Rigby
6,5 x 51 R (Arisaka)
256 Mag. Gibbs
6 x 62 Freres
7 x 57
38-45 ACP
45 Auto
45 Win. Mag.
5,6 x 61 SE.v.H.
6,5 x 55 SE.


These are sorted in rim size (there are many sizes out there) the one after 45HP may require a little releiveing of the bolt face...I have included pistol chamberings too, (you can / if you want!)

Look at:
308win
8x57 (yep, nothing wrong there, 308 - but a lot more of a good thing!!),
9.3x62,

smaller cal:
6.5x284Norma (lot of followers there)
25-06Rem (the quarterbore)
243win (under-rated?)

I'd say my next small cal will be either a 243 or a quarterbore
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by Lorgar » 13 Mar 2015, 2:49 pm

1290 wrote:Dont worry about your shoulder, When I started out I ghad some whoppers, but then I LEARNT HOW TO SHOOT IT!!


Funny how the same thing feels so harsh to start and so nothing later on.

It's not like you grow an extra inch of muscle around your shoulder or something by learning to shoot :lol: But yeah you learn to sway or absorb it or I dunno what it is that makes it easier after.

I shoot a mates .300 win mag for fun now and then, no drama now. But I still remember when I bought my first centre fire which was a .243, I felt the recoil and thought ow s**t, might have bought the wrong thing, this is too much rifle for me :lol:

.243 feels like nothing now.
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by HiFiRobbie » 16 Mar 2015, 6:13 pm

1290 wrote:without modifying the bolt face, you can rebarrel to either of these;

6,5 x 54 Mauser
6,5 x 58 Mauser
8 x 56 M.-Sch.
240 Belt. Riml. N.E.
318 Riml. N.E.
8 x 75 S
9 x 56 Mannl. Sch.
9,5 x 57 Mannl. Sch.
45 GAP
5,6 x 57
6,5 x 57
6,5 x 64
6,5 x 65 RWS
7 x 64
7,92 x 33 Kurz
8 x 51 (Mauser K)
8 x 57 I
8 x 57 IS
8 x 60
8 x 60 S
9 x 57
9,3 x 62
9,3 x 66 Sako
240 Weath. Mag.
8 x 64
8 x 64 S
22-250 Rem
220 Swift
225 Win.
243 Win.
25-06 Rem.
250 Savage
257 Roberts
260 Rem.
264 Leroy N.E.
270 Win.
280 Rem.
284 Win.
30 - 284 Win.
30-06 Court Cartry
30-06 Spring.
300 CR
300 Savage
308 EH
308 Win.
35 Whelen
357 Auto Mag.
358 Win.
45 Blaser
6 mm BR Rem.
6 mm Rem. (244 Rem.)
6 x 47 SM
6,5 - 284 Norma
6,5 x 47 Lapua
6,5 x 64 Brenneke
6mm BR Norma
7 mm - 08 Rem.
7 mm BR Rem.
7 mm Exp. Rem.
8,5 x 63
45 HP
7,65 x 53 Arg.
275 H. V. Rigby
6,5 x 51 R (Arisaka)
256 Mag. Gibbs
6 x 62 Freres
7 x 57
38-45 ACP
45 Auto
45 Win. Mag.
5,6 x 61 SE.v.H.
6,5 x 55 SE.

308win
8x57 (yep, nothing wrong there, 308 - but a lot more of a good thing!!),
9.3x62,

smaller cal:
6.5x284Norma (lot of followers there)
25-06Rem (the quarterbore)
243win (under-rated?)

I'd say my next small cal will be either a 243 or a quarterbore


:o

Wow. I knew I had options... ..but...

Thanks for all the input, folks. Much research to do! :)
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by Lorgar » 16 Mar 2015, 7:24 pm

HiFiRobbie wrote:My own collection currently consists of a Tikka T3 in .223, a Browning A-Bolt in .270 and a Brno Model 2 .22 LR.

The father in-law has a pretty broad compliment including .22 (Brno Model 1) , .222, .223, 22-250 (the rifle in question), 22-250 AI, ,243, .25-06, .270, .308 and a couple of others I can't quite recall, but I know there's no .260 in there, so that may be a good idea, but we also tossed around the idea of a 7mm.

Any thoughts or opinions/experiences on the .260 or 7mm? Are they an economical item as far as reloading goes?

Either of them not worth entertaining the thought of?


7mm-08 is my preferred all around cartridge.

Won't do the long winded spiel as you've got enough options to think about :lol:

Short version though...'

Just as economical to reload as .308 or 260.

Typically shooting slightly lighter pills than the .308. A little flatter due to this, also higher BC bullets for a little more range and energy for the same weight pill. Fine points here though.

And legal for hunting all, unlike the .260 Rem.

:thumbsup:

Questions welcome if you want the long version :lol:
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by Chronos » 16 Mar 2015, 9:11 pm

1290 wrote:Dont worry about your shoulder, When I started out I ghad some whoppers, but then I LEARNT HOW TO SHOOT IT!!

without modifying the bolt face, you can rebarrel to either of these;

6,5 x 54 Mauser
6,5 x 58 Mauser
8 x 56 M.-Sch.
240 Belt. Riml. N.E.
318 Riml. N.E.
8 x 75 S
9 x 56 Mannl. Sch.
9,5 x 57 Mannl. Sch.
45 GAP
5,6 x 57
6,5 x 57
6,5 x 64
6,5 x 65 RWS
7 x 64
7,92 x 33 Kurz
8 x 51 (Mauser K)
8 x 57 I
8 x 57 IS
8 x 60
8 x 60 S
9 x 57
9,3 x 62
9,3 x 66 Sako
240 Weath. Mag.
8 x 64
8 x 64 S
22-250 Rem
220 Swift
225 Win.
243 Win.
25-06 Rem.
250 Savage
257 Roberts
260 Rem.
264 Leroy N.E.
270 Win.
280 Rem.
284 Win.
30 - 284 Win.
30-06 Court Cartry
30-06 Spring.
300 CR
300 Savage
308 EH
308 Win.
35 Whelen
357 Auto Mag.
358 Win.
45 Blaser
6 mm BR Rem.
6 mm Rem. (244 Rem.)
6 x 47 SM
6,5 - 284 Norma
6,5 x 47 Lapua
6,5 x 64 Brenneke
6mm BR Norma
7 mm - 08 Rem.
7 mm BR Rem.
7 mm Exp. Rem.
8,5 x 63
45 HP
7,65 x 53 Arg.
275 H. V. Rigby
6,5 x 51 R (Arisaka)
256 Mag. Gibbs
6 x 62 Freres
7 x 57
38-45 ACP
45 Auto
45 Win. Mag.
5,6 x 61 SE.v.H.
6,5 x 55 SE.


These are sorted in rim size (there are many sizes out there) the one after 45HP may require a little releiveing of the bolt face...I have included pistol chamberings too, (you can / if you want!)

Look at:
308win
8x57 (yep, nothing wrong there, 308 - but a lot more of a good thing!!),
9.3x62,

smaller cal:
6.5x284Norma (lot of followers there)
25-06Rem (the quarterbore)
243win (under-rated?)

I'd say my next small cal will be either a 243 or a quarterbore



You left one out mate....

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7X47 Lapua (Left beside a 7-08)

with 130-140gr bullets it will outperform my 7-08 with 4gr less powder, feeds from my ex 22-250 Tikka LSA55 and there's only myself and one other shooting one in australia :thumbsup:


In all seriousness a 6mm seems to fit the bill but i'd look at something a little more exotic than the .243 workhorse, 250 savage, 6X47 lapua 6XC, 6mm creedmore :clap: but the op would need to be willing to put the work and the money to get it running but you'd have something special

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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by AlanK » 17 Mar 2015, 10:54 am

Chronos wrote:7X47 Lapua (Left beside a 7-08)

with 130-140gr bullets it will outperform my 7-08 with 4gr less powder


An unkind word about the 7mm-08 from Chronos?

Never thought I'd see the day! :lol:
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by HiFiRobbie » 18 Mar 2015, 5:29 pm

Chronos wrote:the op would need to be willing to put the work and the money to get it running


"work"

"money"

Yeah.. ..about that. :(


7-08 reads well. Kinda liking that idea... :)
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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by Chronos » 18 Mar 2015, 5:37 pm

AlanK wrote:An unkind word about the 7mm-08 from Chronos?

Never thought I'd see the day! :lol:


no unkind words, i love the 7-08, but the new 7mm should outperform it, but at a cost.

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Re: Re-chambering a 22-250

Post by Tiiger » 19 Mar 2015, 1:48 pm

HiFiRobbie wrote:7-08 reads well. Kinda liking that idea... :)


Not a bad all-rounder like the guys say.

As good a choice as any really.
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