22-250 barrel life?

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22-250 barrel life?

Post by becks » 20 Oct 2013, 3:58 pm

Hi guys,

Newbie here to shooting in general and the forum - so hello :D

My question like the title says... how long is the barrel life for a 22-250 in general?

Looking to punch some paper and bust some bunnies. Bit of an investment so wanting to get my numbers down ahead of time.

Best guess?
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Re: 22-250 barrel life?

Post by Bourt » 20 Oct 2013, 6:00 pm

Welcome Becks :)

Any idea what loads / how often you'll be shooting?

Could be 3,000 if you treat her right or 1,000 if you punish the barrel with hot loads.
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Post by Aster » 20 Oct 2013, 8:06 pm

Aye,

Depends entirely on your load. Could be half or double the amount depending on what you're shooting.
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Re: 22-250 barrel life?

Post by becks » 21 Oct 2013, 9:20 am

Hmmm.

Thanks for the feedback. I can't give exact loads or shooting info at this stage because I don't have the rifle.

In general though, I would be shooting factory ammo or reloaded ammo well within maximum loads.

50-60gr bullets I suppose?

Sorry to be a pain in the ass with vague details, cheers.
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Re: 22-250 barrel life?

Post by Blackened » 21 Oct 2013, 9:30 am

Given the above info, I'd 3000+ would be a reasonable expectation.

Potentially more depending on how intense your shooting sessions are.

And having said that, barrels don't go from accurate to completely useless in a single round.

You may be willing to accept a little more of a decline in accuracy than someone else so may get longer out of the same barrel then them.

All barrels wear our, you can't buy a wear-free calibre.

If you want a 22-250 get it, learn on it, and you can make a more informed decision on future rifles if you need to in the future.
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Re: 22-250 barrel life?

Post by harris » 21 Oct 2013, 10:18 am

Blackened wrote:If you want a 22-250 get it, learn on it, and you can make a more informed decision on future rifles if you need to in the future.


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Post by Varmtr » 28 Oct 2013, 11:55 am

I had just re barreled my 22-250 the original barrel last around the 3000 rounds or so. This is due to proper barrel cleaning after shooting and depending on the day of varminting a field clean as well after 20 rounds or so. Also it was running a mild load 55gr NBT over AR2206 doing 3500 fps.

Becks you mentioned about using 50 - 60gr bullets most 22-250's have a barrel twist of 1:14. Now depending on the bullet profile you may have to look at a 1:12 twist to stablise the bullets.
Example: Nosler ballistic tips 50gr lead core a 1:14 no worry's even the 55gr's no worry's, but the same brand and weight in a composite core ( copper & tin ) will be marginal in a 1:14 twist the only difference between the two are the length.
Best to do some web searching of bullet makers and the weights you want to use and see what twist rate they recommend.
Sometimes you are better off with a slightly faster twist rate this will give you a bit of leway in chosing different brands and type of bullets you want to use.

Another option to look at in stead of a 22-250 is the 223 will pretty much do anything the 250 can except it won't be able to punch em as hard. They have excellent barrel life and for that matter the 222 is another good option.
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Post by SendIt » 28 Oct 2013, 2:51 pm

Varmtr wrote:I had just re barreled my 22-250 the original barrel last around the 3000 rounds or so. This is due to proper barrel cleaning after shooting and depending on the day of varminting a field clean as well after 20 rounds or so.


A little care goes a long way to maintaining your equipment.

Funny to see people bitch about how their barrel didn't last then you find out they shoot blistering hot loads and clean it once every 500 rounds :roll:
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Re: 22-250 barrel life?

Post by Varmtr » 30 Oct 2013, 3:54 pm

SendIt wrote:
A little care goes a long way to maintaining your equipment.

Funny to see people bitch about how their barrel didn't last then you find out they shoot blistering hot loads and clean it once every 500 rounds :roll:


Send It is spot on.

Becks just because a 22-250 can drive a 50gr at 4000 odd fps doesn't mean you have too. The reason why I have stuck with the 250 is. I got the rifle for nothing and it shot a ripper and the ability to drive pills faster than a 223 for better ballistics. But I don't go over board in pushing the limits hence I have had good barrel life.
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Post by Antie » 30 Oct 2013, 4:40 pm

Varmtr wrote:Becks just because a 22-250 can drive a 50gr at 4000 odd fps doesn't mean you have too.


Plenty of people obsessed with achieving maximum velocities for some reason :?
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Re: 22-250 barrel life?

Post by D9er72 » 08 Mar 2014, 1:30 pm

I got over 15000 rounds out off a cmc 22/250 barrel before it gave up ! loaded with 32.5gr of 2206 , very accurate with any cheap bulk 55 gr sp or hollow point , now using 2208 with 33-33.5gr with cheap bulk 55gr winchester projectiles ,( never used plastic tip prodjys )
Not maximum loads but dose a great job on rabbits foxes ect ! I have used 60gr horady& Sierra hp with the same charge on bigger animals with good results , Im never one to clean it that often dunno if that makes much difference???
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Post by Apollo » 08 Mar 2014, 1:49 pm

What ever you are smoking it must be pretty good. 15,000 rounds...!!!! Just like AR2206 being available again.... Dreaming...!!!!
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Post by Member-Deleted » 08 Mar 2014, 3:13 pm

There's no reason he can't put 15000 rounds through anything! I've owned a few 250,s now I know after 3000-4000 rounds they go a bit warped. Doesn't mean the rounds won't go through. As for the powder I wouldn't have a clue. I get other people to handload for me.
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Post by Chronos » 08 Mar 2014, 3:20 pm

Varmtr wrote:I had just re barreled my 22-250 the original barrel last around the 3000 rounds or so. This is due to proper barrel cleaning after shooting and depending on the day of varminting a field clean as well after 20 rounds or so. Also it was running a mild load 55gr NBT over AR2206 doing 3500 fps.

Becks you mentioned about using 50 - 60gr bullets most 22-250's have a barrel twist of 1:14. Now depending on the bullet profile you may have to look at a 1:12 twist to stablise the bullets.
Example: Nosler ballistic tips 50gr lead core a 1:14 no worry's even the 55gr's no worry's, but the same brand and weight in a composite core ( copper & tin ) will be marginal in a 1:14 twist the only difference between the two are the length.
Best to do some web searching of bullet makers and the weights you want to use and see what twist rate they recommend.
Sometimes you are better off with a slightly faster twist rate this will give you a bit of leway in chosing different brands and type of bullets you want to use.

Another option to look at in stead of a 22-250 is the 223 will pretty much do anything the 250 can except it won't be able to punch em as hard. They have excellent barrel life and for that matter the 222 is another good option.



I have zero experience with the 22-250 but looking at your numbers here a .223 would be my suggestion also when you take barrel life and the associated cost into account.

"Also it was running a mild load 55gr NBT over AR2206 doing 3500 fps."

If that's the kind of numbers the op would be happy with a 1:8" twist .223 would happily push a 60gr NBT along only 200-300fps slower than the 22-250 but with 4 times the barrel life.

Also consider the .243, also capable of shooting light 60gr bullets it also heavier bullets over 100gr with comparable barrel life but more recoil and noise.

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Post by D9er72 » 12 Mar 2014, 4:59 pm

I don't care what the know it alls think!! We didnt load it hot ,it hit harder than a 223 And 95% of our shooting was furry an feathery wildlife , that what we bought it for eradicating pests , thats what this barrel did its co licensed by other people we have enuff emty primer packets to account for 15000 it probly shot more , the ones that don't believe r the ones that havnt been out and had the fun that we have had with it ! And because im a farmer it was all a 100% tax deduction including the new barrel!!
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Post by D9er72 » 12 Mar 2014, 5:10 pm

And adi 2206 powder is available for those who want to find it??
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Post by Member-Deleted » 12 Mar 2014, 5:47 pm

D9er72 wrote:I don't care what the know it alls think!! We didnt load it hot ,it hit harder than a 223 And 95% of our shooting was furry an feathery wildlife , that what we bought it for eradicating pests , thats what this barrel did its co licensed by other people we have enuff emty primer packets to account for 15000 it probly shot more , the ones that don't believe r the ones that havnt been out and had the fun that we have had with it ! And because im a farmer it was all a 100% tax deduction including the new barrel!!


Easy chief, don't take it to personally. There only opinions & comments. Some seem like know-alls but there just putting there opinion on here like you did. Go grab a beer & relax it's just a forum.
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Post by D9er72 » 12 Mar 2014, 7:38 pm

I don't like being accused off smoking s**t and dreaming when
1 iv done it and seem it done !
2 a question was asked about adi 2206 and yes it can purchased still !
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Post by Apollo » 12 Mar 2014, 9:17 pm

From Thales (ADI or Australian Munitions). The ADI AR2206 has not been manufactured for a number of years when it was discontinued from further production. Supplies may be available as "old stock".

Why switch to AR2208 and not AR2206H if as you say AR2206 is still available..???

The accuracy of a 22-250 calibre after 15,000 rounds would probably be fine at 25 yards.....!!!! 150 empty primer packets, about time to have a clean out.
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Post by Member-Deleted » 13 Mar 2014, 6:23 am

Apollo wrote:From Thales (ADI or Australian Munitions). The ADI AR2206 has not been manufactured for a number of years when it was discontinued from further production. Supplies may be available as "old stock".

Why switch to AR2208 and not AR2206H if as you say AR2206 is still available..???

The accuracy of a 22-250 calibre after 15,000 rounds would probably be fine at 25 yards.....!!!! 150 empty primer packets, about time to have a clean out.


I see what you mean by know-alls, do you really need to write that? f*** wit
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Post by Chronos » 13 Mar 2014, 7:17 am

Jaso calling someone a f**kwitt is totally uncalled for, particularly coming from someone who just yesterday in this thread wrote

"Easy chief, don't take it to personally. There only opinions & comments. Some seem like know-alls but there just putting there opinion on here like you did. Go grab a beer & relax it's just a forum."

Fir the record, I don't think anyone here believes a 22-250 could be considered accurate after in excess if 15,000 rounds. That's .222 territory and as varmtr said earlier in this thread around 3,000 rounds is realistic for the 22-250

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Re: 22-250 barrel life?

Post by Warrigul » 13 Mar 2014, 8:49 am

Chronos wrote:
Fir the record, I don't think anyone here believes a 22-250 could be considered accurate after in excess if 15,000 rounds. That's .222 territory and as varmtr said earlier in this thread around 3,000 rounds is realistic for the 22-250

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If it were still accurate he probably wouldn't have had to stop and rebarrel it at 15,000.

FWIW I load for a 22-250 that was Re chambered and crowned at 8000 (was still accurate but starting to go off), it is at 10,000 plus and still fine for culling. It isn't a hot load by any stretch of the imagination. I have no idea what the end barrel life of this rifle will be.

15,000 is definately getting every millisecond's worth and it probably was a few thousand overdue for a barrel but still doing the job, not common but definately possible.

Some people seem to think that as soon as a rifle won't shoot 1/2" groups at 500m that a barrel is knackered for hunting when in reality a 2" group at 100 will easily kill most animals.

Apollo should have either apologised or shut up.
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Post by Chronos » 13 Mar 2014, 9:28 am

Warrigul wrote:If it were still accurate he probably wouldn't have had to stop and rebarrel it at 15,000.

FWIW I load for a 22-250 that was Re chambered and crowned at 8000 (was still accurate but starting to go off), it is at 10,000 plus and still fine for culling. It isn't a hot load by any stretch of the imagination. I have no idea what the end barrel life of this rifle will be.

15,000 is definately getting every millisecond's worth and it probably was a few thousand overdue for a barrel but still doing the job, not common but definately possible.

Some people seem to think that as soon as a rifle won't shoot 1/2" groups at 500m that a barrel is knackered for hunting when in reality a 2" group at 100 will easily kill most animals.

Apollo should have either apologised or shut up.



My post was not meant to question anyone's claims of how many rounds they could get out of a barrel, simply to get the thread back on topic and help the op with his question

"how long is the barrel life for a 22-250 in general?"

By "in general" I assume he doesn't mean the extreme maximum but approximately how many rounds could a 22-250 barrel retain most if its accuracy.

As I have said earlier in this thread I have no experience shooting the cartridge so I will refrain from suggesting a number again but I do have a friend who's rem 700 wouldn't hold a 5" group at 100m and it had many less than 3,000 rounds through it (hand loads) and was duly rebarreled in .243

As fit the other subject that's for the mods to decide but one forum member calling another a FW is not desirable no matter what the "discussion"

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Well that's not what I expected to find here...
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