Hankering for a big bore. 9.3x62 or 375 Ruger

[jeretilda]

I have considered the Zastava as an option previously when I was looking for an 8x57. Like you say Headspace, the wood is pretty basic, like all the stocks were made at 3.30 pm on a Friday.
It would have to be a Mauser action for me anyway.
There plenty of you tube footage of guys hammering pigs with 9.3 and .375
Ruger
I smell a PTA looming...

[Chronos]

I have considered the Zastava as an option previously when I was looking for an 8x57. Like you say Headspace, the wood is pretty basic, like all the stocks were made at 3.30 pm on a Friday.
It would have to be a Mauser action for me anyway.
There plenty of you tube footage of guys hammering pigs with 9.3 and .375
Ruger
I smell a PTA looming...

*Cough, Cough, Ruger guide gun*





http://www.ruger.com/products/guideGun/models.html

[jeretilda]

Chronos ,this thread is gonna cost me some money for sure.
I'm not normally a stainless laminate kind of guy, but there's something about that guide gun!

[North East]

Chronos ,this thread is gonna cost me some money for sure.
I'm not normally a stainless laminate kind of guy, but there's something about that guide gun!

It's got a muzzle brake on it.....man up.

[headspace]

1290, the heads pacing on a belted magnum is usually done at the belt. Mainly due to minimal shoulders most of the original magnums had. The problem is not the cartridge it's due to some fairly random chambering by some manufacturers. Case life can be short; as low as 3 firings. Not a problem if you only use factory ammo but can be if you reload. Check with Uncle Nick. The 9.3 has reasonable shoulders unlike the Whelen, therefore no drama's.
JD

[1290]

Just as any rifle can be poorly manufactured and headspaced, headspace, a belted mag can.... sorry, you're propagating a myth....
The belted mags have a distinct and absolute headspace location (face of the belt is vertical) while rimless cases, especially those with very slopey shoulders, rely on the angles surface to 'fix' the location.... this can vary.

Back in the day the rim was necessary not only to extract those big nitro cases.... but to headspace, so the belt allowed that to continue, the hespacing therefore isnt a design failure, but by design....A big case with a belt looks more purposeful anyway, especially with a big opening at one end

I've reloaded up to 5 or 6 in some of my cases.... no probs

[headspace]

No worries mate, I just have no need of a belted magnum, nor any desire to own one. But that had no bearing on my opinion of them. Just information I've picked up over time. Plus I do like the look of the 9.3x64 and will probably own one before I'm much older.
JD

[Blackened]

I'm hearing lots of good stuff about the 400 whelan at the moment with a mate up north building one to sit beside his 416

.400 Whelan you say?

Didn't know the 35 had been one upped.

[1290]

I'm hearing lots of good stuff about the 400 whelan at the moment with a mate up north building one to sit beside his 416

.400 Whelan you say?

Didn't know the 35 had been one upped.

Only happened almost a century ago.... didnt you get the memo? there were at least a couple of whelen bigger than the 35, 38? too I think...probably both preceded the 35...

[Blackened]

Honestly I can't recall ever hearing of it.

Turns out I don't know everything, who'd have guessed.

[jeretilda]

Hi All
Thanks for the input and advice.
Ended up going for a 9.3x62
I will use it more than something bigger.
Got a second hand Zastava M70 with some deluxe redding dies and some projectiles.
Cheap enough to try it out and if I use the calibre more than I think, at least I've got cases etc and can upgrade the rifle later.
From what I hear though, the Zastavas are pretty accurate which makes up for the stocks that are made from old Serbian pallets.

[yoshie]

If you want a fun gun, what about a 45-70 or 444 marlin. Plenty for the biggest pig, more than enough recoil to put a smile on your face.

[1290]

If you want a fun gun, what about a 45-70 or 444 marlin. Plenty for the biggest pig, more than enough recoil to put a smile on your face.

A fun gun is one that when you hand to a newbie to shoot (after sufficient instruction of course) ....

They have a shot then quickly hand it back to you... "want another shot?" "No, thats OK"

Thats a priceless look, having experienced a memorable dose of Joules in the shoulder

[headspace]

The 9.3 is a cartridge that's fascinated me for a long time, but I never got around to doing anything about it. It's not all that far behind the 375 in delivering power, and there have been a lot of African big game shot with it. If you read the history behind Otto Bocks cartridge you will realise you're thinking about some real centre fire history. It will take Buff with authority, but as has been said, Sambar will succumb to it and it makes a very nice wild hog set up. Obviously I'm all for it. The Ruger African in that calibre is no longer imported, but there are Zastava's, Voere's and a few others to consider and the prices are reasonable. If you get one please go for a controlled round feed not a push feed, you should match the cartridge to the appropriate action. Mauser 98!
JD

[jeretilda]

Yeah JD
That's why I went for the Zastava 9.3x62 in the end.
It's controlled round feed, poor mans Mauser you might say.
Will post some pics when it arrives.

[headspace]

Good work mate, don't worry about the "poor man" tag Zastava make great rifles. You may find the action a little rough to start, but that's only because they saved money by not buffing it as much as some do. Just sit in front of the TV and work the action back and forth regularly and it will be nice and slick. Your wife will probably go nuts, but there's always a price to be paid. I think you'll be surprised by the accuracy of the rifle.
JD

[1290]

Poor mans smoor mans. ... the zastys are good rifles, they just cost you less than a CZ, who else makes amauser action? Ruger are cast as opposed to forged of the others...(tip; cast is cheaper to mass produce, forged is ahead strength wise, absolutely!)

Zastava has been producing these mauser actions for decades, and as a firearm producer, probablt Beretta is the only mob older!
I have a 60+ yr old zasty that shoots vees at 300m all day long if I do my part... seriously, dont associate the cheaper purchase price with a 'cheap' product....just dont, onlt the retailer will try to convince you to spend more

At the moment a certain unmentionable retailer is selling these for less thean $500!!! Seriously, this must be the deal of the year.

As far as rough action.... theyre MAUSERS!! designed for the trenches damn near 120 yrs ago....yet theyre still produced today in exactly the same design less the thumb cut out....

[jeretilda]

Yeah I saw the under $500 deal, but being in NSW there's +$50 post then +$100 transfer for a new gun. Plus, being on the wrong side of 40, I just can't do Tupperware stocks and stainless on a rifle.
I got one with a not too bad bit of walnut, deluxe dies, as a near new package.
Looking forward to smoothing up the action over the first state of origin game.

[Seconds]

As far as rough action.... theyre MAUSERS!! designed for the trenches damn near 120 yrs ago....yet theyre still produced today in exactly the same design less the thumb cut out....

They're tough! Not rough