Need to buy my rifles AGAIN!

[Chronos]

Good luck cleaning a 22lr, 223 and a 308 with the same cleaning rod.

I must have lots of luck. Or I am using the wrong words. Different tips same rod…..for my 22 cals and .30 cals.

With a collection like you have you could need more gear than me!

So where am I going wrong ?

I just mean you'll need a rimfire rod to ckead a .22, chances are that rod will flex excessively when cleaning a .308 rubbing against the bore and potentially causing damage to the lands, throat and even rifling further down the bore. This is why you must use a bore guide whenever possible. U have a universal one but it won't fit in my .204.

I have s few rods, a .20 cal rod for the .204R. These have a different thread as the tips are smaller. I also have a couple of stainless and carbon fibre .22 rods for .223, .243 and 6mm then .30cal rods for the 7mm, .308 and .338.

I prefer stainless rods but they can get bent.

Chronos

[fawksel]

I must have lots of luck. Or I am using the wrong words. Different tips same rod…..for my 22 cals and .30 cals.

With a collection like you have you could need more gear than me!

So where am I going wrong ?

Typically you'd get a larger diameter rod for the .30 cal so there is less flex it in, like Chronos said.

Pro shot for example do a .22 cal rod and a .27 cal one designed for .270 and up barrels.

[Bosbefok]

If I had to start again.... 22lr or 22mag (maybe get Cz 455 and have both plus 17hmr!!). Then 270win (great for anything from foxes, goats or camels...) These two make a great combo. When it is time to expand .223rem and a 30-06 to round things out nicely!!

[lole]

If I had to start again.... 22lr or 22mag (maybe get Cz 455 and have both plus 17hmr!!). Then 270win (great for anything from foxes, goats or camels...) These two make a great combo. When it is time to expand .223rem and a 30-06 to round things out nicely!!

I see you've got a bit of a collection in your signature there.

You could always move on a few of them (if you can bare to part with them ) and get the 223 and 30-06.

Swap the Ruger .308 for the 30-06 and the .243 for the .223? Your 25-06 will cover you for what the .243 did obviously.

2c

[Bosbefok]

If I had to start again.... 22lr or 22mag (maybe get Cz 455 and have both plus 17hmr!!). Then 270win (great for anything from foxes, goats or camels...) These two make a great combo. When it is time to expand .223rem and a 30-06 to round things out nicely!!

I see you've got a bit of a collection in your signature there.

You could always move on a few of them (if you can bare to part with them ) and get the 223 and 30-06.

Swap the Ruger .308 for the 30-06 and the .243 for the .223? Your 25-06 will cover you for what the .243 did obviously.

2c

Nah bud, I'm still trying to fill the "gap" between my .243 and the 25-06...

[Baronvonrort]

Aarrgghh!!!

This forum is tempting me to spend more money. Never really considered a shotty coz I reckon it's range is so limited (not bagging them in any way, just my newbness).

So possibly a shotty for close work, 17hmr for little teddy bear like things to about 150-200m and a (.243, .270, .308, 6.5x55) for bigger stuff?

Honestly, the more I learn the harder it gets to make choices....

If you want to eat free range duck for dinner you need a shotty, not a good idea to aim a centrefire/rimfire at the sky who knows where it could land if you miss.

You could probably drop the .22lr/17hmr and use trail boss in a .243w for a lower velocity option if you reload and are keen.
If I could only have 2 centrefire it would be a .223 and 7mm-08,i would still need a rimfire and shotty so I reckon 4 is about the minimum number.

[Die Judicii]

Just to chuck the cat in amongst the canaries,,,,,,,,,

As for combinations that would make your mouth water,,,,, how about the following (dream) possibility ????

Akkar put out the "Akkar 3"

A triple barrelled 12g.

Wouldnt it be great to be able to choose your own combo such as,, 12g / .223 / 30/06

[brett1868]

Wouldnt it be great to be able to choose your own combo such as,, 12g / .223 / 30/06

Ask and you shall receive

http://www.baikalcanada.com/rifles_combo_94.htm

[Die Judicii]

Wouldnt it be great to be able to choose your own combo such as,, 12g / .223 / 30/06

Ask and you shall receive

http://www.baikalcanada.com/rifles_combo_94.htm

They truly are a nice looking F/arm.

However,, my DREAMTIME fantasy was for the AKKAR triple barrel piece to have a similar combination to 12g / .223 / 30/06 all in the one F/Arm

[SendIt]

Wouldnt it be great to be able to choose your own combo such as,, 12g / .223 / 30/06

Put me down for one

[brett1868]

However,, my DREAMTIME fantasy was for the AKKAR triple barrel piece to have a similar combination to 12g / .223 / 30/06 all in the one F/Arm

Sighting would be interesting but not impossible. I know there's a survival type 12Ga take down combo on the market that can take barrel inserts for .357, 44Mag, and I think 22LR, 22WMR & 17HMR. Providing the action on the Akkar is strong enough I'm sure a barrel insert could be machined up for it legalities aside that is. I even have a design in mind for it, machine the rear of the insert with same dimensions as 12Ga then use screw in choke type inserts to support the muzzle but not restrict fore / aft movement during recoil. Simple spring type extractor coupled to existing extractor solves the loading / unloading problem.

[Gwion]

Everyone needs a 22lr. Even my wife has one!

17hmr... about as expensive to shoot as reloading for 223rem.

My personal solution to this problem is the 22lr, 223short (wildcat), 7mm08rem, 12g (then a 223rem and a 410 and probably a 284win when money allows).

22lr = up to fox size game out to 50m or so
223short = up to roo (head shot) sized game out to 200 (cheaper to run, quieter and even lower charge than 223rem)
7-08 = pigs. goats, up to sambar sized game out to 300 (mostly a lot closer) and club fclass
12g = snakes, things in trees and pests in the bush.

then (but only if i find myself with money to splurge) ...
223rem because i enjoy shooting it and i want a Lithgow Crossover 102 in left hand
410 because "the wife needs it" (it is a ladies gun, after all)
284win because it has more range and heavier bullet choice than the 7-08 for f-class

Just playing along because the OP is obviously not confused enough already!

[bluerob]

Aarrgghh!!!

This forum is tempting me to spend more money. Never really considered a shotty coz I reckon it's range is so limited (not bagging them in any way, just my newbness).

So possibly a shotty for close work, 17hmr for little teddy bear like things to about 150-200m and a (.243, .270, .308, 6.5x55) for bigger stuff?

Honestly, the more I learn the harder it gets to make choices....

Wait until you enter the world of reloading & handguns.

Just read a lot, ask questions (there's no such thing as a stupid question), watch the various youtube video's and find a gun store that you like. Even join a club. I've learnt alot from club members and I am certainly no expert. Been shooting off & on for over 40 years and still learning.

Combined with everything you like, you end up with Chrono's signature or more.

Then you hear stories where people own hundreds of rifles and hundreds of handguns. Imagine being the inspector for that job.

[SendIt]

12g = snakes, things in trees and pests in the bush.

The drop-bear defence gun right

[SendIt]

Just read a lot, ask questions (there's no such thing as a stupid question)

The stupid thing would be not to ask and accidentally do something illegal or dangerous.

[aaronjo]

Aarrgghh!!!

This forum is tempting me to spend more money. Never really considered a shotty coz I reckon it's range is so limited (not bagging them in any way, just my newbness).

So possibly a shotty for close work, 17hmr for little teddy bear like things to about 150-200m and a (.243, .270, .308, 6.5x55) for bigger stuff?

Honestly, the more I learn the harder it gets to make choices....

Wait until you enter the world of reloading & handguns.

Just read a lot, ask questions (there's no such thing as a stupid question), watch the various youtube video's and find a gun store that you like. Even join a club. I've learnt alot from club members and I am certainly no expert. Been shooting off & on for over 40 years and still learning.

Combined with everything you like, you end up with Chrono's signature or more.

Then you hear stories where people own hundreds of rifles and hundreds of handguns. Imagine being the inspector for that job.

Got my Walther PPQ and loving it, looking at a 357 Mag now...

[Usurper]

Walther seem to be getting real popular these days.

[aaronjo]

I was looking for a longer barrel 9mm that I might use for IPSC in the future as well and it was between the Walther and the M&P Pro.

Preferred the fit and sights in the Walther.

[Monty]

The stupid thing would be not to ask and accidentally do something illegal or dangerous.

Just make sure you ask now before sharing "technical data" is made illegal