I want a bigger bang...

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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by aaronjo » 22 Aug 2015, 8:21 pm

And the battle rages on!

On a side note, not bad for cheap factory ammo. Winny 55gr bulk pack. 100m.

That'll do me...

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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Strikey » 22 Aug 2015, 8:28 pm

All I can see is a whole lot of white paper with half a finger/thumb nail on it :? :crazy:
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Title_II » 22 Aug 2015, 9:52 pm

Just get a .50 BMG rifle and be done with it. You know you want to :)


Strikey wrote:All I can see is a whole lot of white paper with half a finger/thumb nail on it :? :crazy:


Group is so tight the hole closed! :)
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Heckler303 » 22 Aug 2015, 10:02 pm

Strikey wrote:Heckler, have you shot a lot of buffalo with your .308 down there in Tassie? :lol: :lol:



I zipped my maths teacher in the arse with a pen gun, does that count? :D
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by aaronjo » 23 Aug 2015, 12:52 pm

After deciding on the caliber, then it's the rifle, then which scope....

This is just the first stage of selection criteria for a all round, relatively lightweight carry around hunting rifle.

The .223 Tikka Varmint is great for shooting outta a car or on a bonnet but I'm not gonna be walking all day with that...
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Post by sandgroperbill » 23 Aug 2015, 1:52 pm

So you want something light...

First question I would be asking is how recoil sensitive are you?

Tikka t3, weatherby vanguard/howa 1500 in synthetic or ruger american in .243? Don't get too close to .30cal or it may make it difficult to get your .300wm later on.

But, I go back to my earlier suggestion. Go choose a rifle first. There are a lot of calibres out there that are near enough as makes no difference in terms of hunting applications. Find something nice and light that balances well, fits your shoulder nicely and feels right. This is more important than calibre when it comes to hunting
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Baronvonrort » 23 Aug 2015, 2:04 pm

aaronjo wrote:After deciding on the caliber, then it's the rifle, then which scope....

This is just the first stage of selection criteria for a all round, relatively lightweight carry around hunting rifle.



Have you decided on calibre let alone rifle or scope...lol.

Nothing wrong with a heavier rifle, it will build up arms shoulders and back carrying it around.
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Post by aaronjo » 23 Aug 2015, 5:00 pm

Current plan is possibly a Sako A7 synthetic stainless in 7mm-08 with a VX3 or Zeiss Conquest.

Heading to the shop this coming week.

Always subject to change when I get there, lol!
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by bigtone » 23 Aug 2015, 6:14 pm

Lucky you don't live in Queensland where everything bigger than 338 lap is not banned but you just can't have one. Get a 50BMG just because you can. And it makes Queenslanders sad too which might be a bonus too!
It's not banned in Queensland but you just can't have one!
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Post by sandgroperbill » 23 Aug 2015, 11:14 pm

He's in wa. 50bmg is banned and .338 is effectively banned. It is possible but you have to take it to the administrative appeals tribunal. Also, because of this, nobody stocks .338 lapua ammo.
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Post by Broom » 24 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm

Baronvonrort wrote:I am starting to think a .243 is the best first centrefire, it can take more species and saves any urgency to get something bigger,if you start with a .223 you will be getting something bigger it's not a case of if but when.


Only hindered by the fact it's not legal for the larger deer species in a lot of places.

If it was I reckon a .243 with 90gr or 95gr pills would be the all round go-to for a lot of shooters.
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Post by Baronvonrort » 24 Aug 2015, 5:28 pm

brett1868 wrote:Only had the ADI data to go off for the 7mm-08 so used it for both just to have an even playing field.
between those 2 choices I'd probably go the 7mm-08 due to lower recoil and less powder.




Nosler have some pretty good data for what they sell,worth having a look if using their products.
www.nosler.com/nosler-load-data/7mm-08-remington.

I didn't think less powder and lower recoil would be a factor for you :D
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Post by brett1868 » 24 Aug 2015, 5:47 pm

I didn't think less powder and lower recoil would be a factor for you :D


Touché brother :drinks:

Nothing like throwing 2.5kgs of powder to load 200 rounds to make a short guy feel just that little bit taller. I have to confess that I had my right shoulder surgically enhanced to deal with recoil. (Truth be told, I high sided a Hayabusa doing something stupid and ripped my shoulder out of the joint. It's all screwed together now and as a bonus almost it's impervious to recoil but don't tell anyone :silent: )
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Baronvonrort » 24 Aug 2015, 7:12 pm

I have been through the motorcycle stage,started (road) with L plates on a RD250LC then moved up to GPZ and GSXR1100's, I recall an old guy saying youngfella there are 2 types of riders, those who fall and those who are going to fall.

You can stand a bit taller knowing we are happy with what you have,someone has to buy the guns that piss the antis off. :drinks:
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Post by Norton » 25 Aug 2015, 10:11 am

brett1868 wrote:Nothing like throwing 2.5kgs of powder to load 200 rounds to make a short guy feel just that little bit taller.


Dunno about the feeling taller bit, I just remember my wallet recoiling from the shock when I started loading the .416 :lol:
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by aaronjo » 27 Aug 2015, 7:00 pm

Allrighty, it's done and dusted!

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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Title_II » 28 Aug 2015, 9:15 pm

Cool! Nice caliber and sounds like decent glass.

I have a question. If you live outside Queensland, WA, and other crappy gun law states, is there a limit on caliber/mm? I'm not looking for a state by state breakdown, just wondering if there is an overall limit or if you are allowed to have cannon and stuff.
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Title_II » 28 Aug 2015, 9:55 pm

How about a 37mm gun? Rifled, cartridge rounds (not high explosive).
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Post by anthillinside » 28 Aug 2015, 10:28 pm

Title_II wrote:How about a 37mm gun? Rifled, cartridge rounds (not high explosive).

YES PLEASE :D

I can just see the result of submitting a Permit To Acuire .... Instant street party of red and blue disco lights ... and an extended stay at one of her majestys bed and breakfasts. :silent:
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by brett1868 » 29 Aug 2015, 2:25 am

aaronjo wrote:Allrighty, it's done and dusted!

Sako A7 Stainless in 7mm-08 with a Leupold VX-3 4.5-14x40 and Leupold PRW rings.


Great choice, quality rifle and scope but I'm no fan of the Leupold PRW rings as I don't like springing them apart to fit over the tube. I use cellophane tape on the scope to protect it while using a pair of T-Handle hex keys to spring them open and over the tube before removing the tape. I'm sure you'll get a lot of satisfaction with this package, enjoy and let us know how it performs.
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Post by Heckler303 » 29 Aug 2015, 9:15 am

Hey, do any tasmanians here know whats the biggest calibre allowed in the state? I've seen 338. projectiles + full ammo stocked up in my LGS, but I'm not entirely sure if I could even put in a permit to acquire on that one. I did try ringing up Firearms Services, but the kind lady on the other end didn't even sound like she knew what a bullet was :crazy:
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Post by Chronos » 29 Aug 2015, 10:31 am

Heckler303 wrote:Hey, do any tasmanians here know whats the biggest calibre allowed in the state? I've seen 338. projectiles + full ammo stocked up in my LGS, but I'm not entirely sure if I could even put in a permit to acquire on that one. I did try ringing up Firearms Services, but the kind lady on the other end didn't even sound like she knew what a bullet was :crazy:


I know one bloke down in tassie with a .50 Alaskan, don't know if there's a "caliber" limit as such, your licencing service should be your guide, if you can't get a straight answer i don't know what the next step would be



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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Heckler303 » 29 Aug 2015, 9:25 pm

Well after talking again to firearms services I found out the following:

There is practically no limit on caliber here in tasmania. Just as long as it doesn't go past 50BMG in terms of 'power' you're all good.

Actually, there's a range I could go to that offers 375, 416, 460, 577 and 600 NE, all the way up to (if you're bloody well rich enough) trying your hand at the 700 nitro express. Maybe I should borrow the 700 for rabbit plinking :D
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by ebr love » 01 Sep 2015, 9:16 am

Title_II wrote:How about a 37mm gun? Rifled, cartridge rounds (not high explosive).


Non explosive? Why ruin the fun? :mrgreen:
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Title_II » 01 Sep 2015, 11:15 am

ebr love wrote:
Title_II wrote:How about a 37mm gun? Rifled, cartridge rounds (not high explosive).


Non explosive? Why ruin the fun? :mrgreen:


Trying to keep it simple :)

I really can't have explosive rounds larger than 20mm here in Pennsylvania unless I start a gun business. In other states you need to register each round that contains more than 7 grams of explosives (unless you decide to get a license) so most average joes stay away from them.

Explosives that are not weapons are fine as long as you use them within 24 hours, such that there is no need to store them. If you want to store them there are requirements and if you want to transport them there are even more requirements.
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Noisydad » 01 Sep 2015, 12:57 pm

Most black powder clubs (including mine) do a live firing target comp for cannon.
There's still a few of Wile. E Coyote's ideas that I haven't tried yet.
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Title_II » 01 Sep 2015, 1:23 pm

I haven't seen a large BP cannon fire in a long time. I started looking into them a few years ago but the big ones are several thousand dollars in America :(. And then they want a few thousand for the carriage.
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Post by Title_II » 02 Sep 2015, 8:49 am

bentaz wrote:We looked into a bit, my dad is a big BP buff, we think it would be heaps cheaper to get one made.
Buy the lump of steel, get someone to turn it and drill it for you and build your own carriage.
Might not be as pretty as an old one but who could tell with that much smoke in the air.
Main thing that stopped the old man going further into it was the cost to shoot it, he was looking at between 30 N 50 bucks a shot


So shoot it once per range trip :)

Other people will want to shoot it, tell them they have to buy a load since $50 doesn't grow on trees. Honestly, I ask most of my friends to bring ammo when they shoot my MGs. Not that I wouldn't let them shoot my ammo, I would. It just adds up with 4 or 5 people running them all day.
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Re: I want a bigger bang...

Post by Rocker » 09 Sep 2015, 11:28 am

No one is going to take the opportunity with this title for a "that's what she said" joke? :lol:
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Post by Title_II » 09 Sep 2015, 1:04 pm

Rocker wrote:No one is going to take the opportunity with this title for a "that's what she said" joke? :lol:



When I read it I actually thought he was a chubby chaser :)
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