Buying Mosin Nagant - discuss models?

[juststarting]

It is my fun blaster people, stop taking this so seriously. Sheeesh.

[newsteadvic]

Pity there are no more spam cans of Bulgarian milsurp with 440 rounds still for sale. They show up occasionally on used guns.

[wrenchman]

ii have the m44 i paid 100 for it i dont think a pig or deer would care if you shot them with ugly gun

[5Tom]

I laughed at all the negative comments in this thread.

I own a 1943 91/30 and it out shoots all four of my mates .303s. My bolt is and always has been smooth and all the clowns complaining about bolts that get stiff needs to clean them properly. Others complain about the ammo getting jammed means they don't know how to avoid rim-lock and load the rounds properly.

The rifle is very simple and RELIABLE. I've fed my 91/30 till it got very hot to touch, didn't jam and didn't get stiff.

For the price of a price of military history, it's fun, reliable and accurate if you know what the rifle likes.

I won't lie and say they're perfect as I've done very minor tweaking (bent sear spring + trigger return spring and cork under the barrel). You do need to measure the bore to find the correct size projectile to shoot (.310 to .314 variance) and the front sight may need adjustments due to shooting high at 100m, but I have hit targets at 300 and 500 meters if I do my job.

If you plan on reloading, I highly recommend projectiles upwards of 180gr. Mosins love it.

[5Tom]

Also check out some videos by Iraqvetran8888 on the mosin.

Torture test part 1
https://youtu.be/gfiXFyIbOZw

Part 2
https://youtu.be/2Bzls73WH7w

He also does a few accurizing videos with excellent results on a 91/30

[juststarting]

I love all women! No, hold on, rifles, I mean rifles. With an exception of .22's, I just don't like them for some reason.

I love having a piece history. At the end of the day, this is a workhorse of a gun, 1942 - REAL piece of war history, one could even say a gun that won the war, maybe I am taking it too far here... Accuracy - it's all about the shooter, no?

Also got this gun because I want to learn a bit more about bolt action rifles, measuring the bore, reloading for it, taking this machine apart and not being terrified or wrecking it - all a bonus.

[anthillinside]

I love all women! No, hold on, rifles, I mean rifles. With an exception of .22's, I just don't like them for some reason.

I love having a piece history. At the end of the day, this is a workhorse of a gun, 1942 - REAL piece of war history, one could even say a gun that won the war, maybe I am taking it too far here... Accuracy - it's all about the shooter, no?

Also got this gun because I want to learn a bit more about bolt action rifles, measuring the bore, reloading for it, taking this machine apart and not being terrified or wrecking it - all a bonus.

Good for you.
My bet is you'll have a SMLE before long as well.

[sandgroperbill]

Being in WA, it is difficult to obtain similar rifles, otherwise I would like a mosin or two, an mlm, an mle, smle and jungle carbine, as well as a .310 cadet. Strangely enough, a mauser isn't really on my wish list.

I would also like a fullwood .22 (drooling over a steyr zephyr from the 60's atm, but $3k...), a fullwood 9.3x62 (steyr mannlicher, cz or sako) and a .375 cheytac or ruger.

Being in WA, this really is just more of a dream, though, so I'll probably eventually end up with a 9.3x62 and mle and have to settle for that. But I definitely see the appeal of owning a piece of history

[juststarting]

sandgroperbill, what's the issue with WA?

[sandgroperbill]

WAPOL are known to reject applications if you already have a similar caliber. It is possible to justify similar cals, for example a carbine with iron sights and a full length with scope, but its much more difficult over here, not to mention more expensive.

While we're talking about justification, its also worth mentioning what WAPOL consider as reasonable property sizes for different calibers.

For example, they like 2000 acres for a 22-250 but may approve it with 1000 acres.

[No1Mk3]

G'day juststarting,
Don't discount the 22's just yet. Have you fired a No2 MkIV*? or a No8? I love my Lee Enfield 22's, and use them in comp every month. As for the Mosin Nagant, I've owned them for decades, they shoot fine, and as you say are genuine military history. In the hands of a good rifleman they can outshoot anything on a good day. We have a member who regularly uses a Russian M44 at 300m and creams the Enfield and Mauser Fanboys. Sadly we have another member who beats Mausers at 500m with a 1915 Berthier. Remember, accuracy is all in the trigger nut, Cheers,

[Charlie]

I''m interested to see pics of the new rifle. I have a few mosins including a Finnish Mosin.

[juststarting]

I''m interested to see pics of the new rifle. I have a few mosins including a Finnish Mosin.

When it arrives, of course...

[RDobber]

It is my fun blaster people, stop taking this so seriously. Sheeesh.

YOU'RE HAVING FUN WRONG!

[juststarting]

It is my fun blaster people, stop taking this so seriously. Sheeesh.

YOU'RE HAVING FUN WRONG!

Me? I thought I am having fun just right!

Also, it has arrived, now I just need some ammo!
http://myshootingjourney.com/2016/01/08 ... s-arrived/

I'll post more photos later, just had a quick look at it, no point dong anything until I get some brass or ammo. That said, I will try slugging the barrel over the weekend. Overall, looks like it's in a very good condition for a 1943 model.

[Rocker]

A few rough spots on the timber.

Bit of a restore though and it'll look tops.

[juststarting]

Few more pics here now: http://myshootingjourney.com/2016/01/13 ... gant-9130/

I don;t think I will refinish it. Maybe one day, but not any time in the forceable future. Want to keep it as is.

[juststarting]

@TheDude - collection is complete. Spam can of ammo + some lose surplus rounds (and factory + reloading)... Original stripper clips, same factory stamp as the rifles. 91/30 + M38 (M38 currently in parts, refinishing the stock, up to 3rd coat of oil).

[TheDude]

Cool, you'll have to post up some pics once you've refinished it. I've got to do something with my type 53. The top part of the hand guard slides around a bit. I think the wood has shrunk a bit over the years. Need to either pack it or the bands to hold it solid.

[juststarting]

That's the 91/30. The M38 carbine is getting a bit of TLC.

Fire didn't get captured