Chronos wrote:IMHO if you're getting a flinch from a .308 the .243 won't be much better
sandgroperbill wrote:And pay the extra for the boyds stock...
But are you set on getting rid of the .308?
The .223 is a good caliber, but will limit you to the smaller stuff, but a .223 and .308 covers virtually everything
<<Genesis93>> wrote:In Vic you'll need to keep the 308win for the deer, at least the most common variety... 260Rem is a no go except for some smaller deer
But I see why you want to get rid of it.... its a Rem
Title_II wrote:.30-30 is a great weapon, but it is for woods. Really about 25-150 meters tops for most people, especially with a peep sight. I know it can be stretched but it's not intended for that.
Title_II wrote:They are really sweet, no doubt. You will love it.
For hunting, all the pics and video I see from you guys is open desert out to 20 km spotted with snakes and sharks. So I just wanted to point out the range.
They are very light, small and handy, almost no recoil, and blast the crap out of stuff within the design range. Just check up on the range.
<<Genesis93>> wrote:Granted the Hornet is an 'efficient' little round, its about the midway point between the LR and the Rem 1100fps/2200fps/3300fps.... couple with the inexpensive factory and even cheaper reloads, lack of recoil.... the Rem wins
Gibbo wrote:Title_II wrote:.30-30 is a great weapon, but it is for woods. Really about 25-150 meters tops for most people, especially with a peep sight. I know it can be stretched but it's not intended for that.
Thanks, I am new to deer hunting so will need to check out with my mate what sort of ranges we are looking at. He has always been a bowhunter so hopefully we are looking at taking closer range shots. I have always wanted a nice lever action in either one of the pistol calibres or 30-30.
BradZ wrote:And if you're anything like me you're useless with open sights haha
Gwion wrote:Depends on your intended use.
Gwion wrote:There is never a simple answer or fixed rule to choose a caliber or chambering.
scotty87 wrote:Get a limb saver recoil pad, almost halves felt recoil IMO.
Gibbo wrote:<<Genesis93>> wrote:In Vic you'll need to keep the 308win for the deer, at least the most common variety... 260Rem is a no go except for some smaller deer
But I see why you want to get rid of it.... its a Rem
Thanks i will take that into consideration. Starting to think I am better off with a 223 for spotlighting and a separate deer rifle, my mate just bought a Sako A7 in 270 which is nice. I am a bit old school and wouldn't mind a 30-30 lever with a peep sight, don't know if anyone has any experience hunting deer with one on here. Seems to have taken a few deer in it's time in the US. Ta
Lorgar wrote:Gwion wrote:Depends on your intended use.
Exactly.
.223 is a pest control cartridge. .243 is a small-med game cartridge.
.243 is very versatile and yes you can load lighter bullets for pest but it's still massive over kill.
I think people who haven't used a .243 themselves and are just giving information based on paper-knowledge think a .243 with 55gr loads is similar to a .223 because they fire the same weight pill. (That's not aimed at anyone here, just commenting for the OP's future reference).
Anyone who's used both knows they're not at all. I'm not knocking the .243 either... I had one, liked a lot about it, but as OP is focused on beating the flinch they picked up from the .308 it wouldn't be my pick.
.243 recoil with 80gr - 90gr bullets is too similar to .308 to be much benefit I would say. And with any load the audible report is loud as hell.
Adding a .223 to the .22 and .308 would give a good lineup IMO. .22 for pests at short range, .223 for some longer range varminting, .308 for hunting. Sorted.