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ugly duckling become swan, $225 Enfield 303-270

Post by SHV » 28 Feb 2016, 10:55 pm

after a little polish, it become a sexy girl to me :lol:


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Post by SHV » 28 Feb 2016, 10:58 pm

nice looking timber, feels so good...


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Post by Die Judicii » 29 Feb 2016, 12:50 am

Do you sleep with her ????????
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Looks a bit like my old girl albeit mines still the same caliber.
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Post by wrenchman » 29 Feb 2016, 3:42 am

real nice nice
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Post by GLS_1956 » 29 Feb 2016, 5:02 am

Very cool. Here in the States we seldom see sporterized SMLEs and rarer yet is one in any caliber other than 303. I have seen one that was converted to a 303 necked up to a 35 caliber, what I would call a 35/303.

I noticed that you listed the caliber as 303-270. I am assuming that it signifies the cartridge is a 303 British that has been necked down to .270 diameter. Generally in the USA when we "wildcat" a cartridge we first list the new bore diameter then give the parent case, so as in the case of the 22/250 we've taken the 250-3000, or 250 Savage and have necked it down to a 22 caliber. There are other more obscure examples but the 22/250 is best know, mainly because Remington "legitimized" it in the 1960s.

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Post by chrispy » 29 Feb 2016, 6:51 am

That is very nice.
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Post by Title_II » 29 Feb 2016, 7:17 am

GLS_1956 wrote:Very cool. Here in the States we seldom see sporterized SMLEs and rarer yet is one in any caliber other than 303. I have seen one that was converted to a 303 necked up to a 35 caliber, what I would call a 35/303.

I noticed that you listed the caliber as 303-270. I am assuming that it signifies the cartridge is a 303 British that has been necked down to .270 diameter. Generally in the USA when we "wildcat" a cartridge we first list the new bore diameter then give the parent case, so as in the case of the 22/250 we've taken the 250-3000, or 250 Savage and have necked it down to a 22 caliber. There are other more obscure examples but the 22/250 is best know, mainly because Remington "legitimized" it in the 1960s.

Anyway great gun enjoy it and good hunting/shooting.


I think he Bubbagunned the caliber to shoot .270 like the rest of the rifle. He did a nice job, though, looks good.

Yeah, .303s are not as big here. I have shot them and think they are great for what they are. More likely to see a Bubba'd Springfield, M1 (heaven forbid), or even commie Mosins and SKS'. Once you get up to AKs, I don't care, since only like 2% (guess) are actually original.
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Post by GLS_1956 » 29 Feb 2016, 7:32 am

I think he Bubbagunned the caliber to shoot .270 like the rest of the rifle. He did a nice job, though, looks good.

I'm not sure, but since I own a couple of '06s, a M-1 and M1917, as well as a No4Mk1 and can compare the bolt faces I'm betting that it is way easier to rebarrel or sleeve an existing barrel than it is to alter the bolt face and magazine of a SMLE to handle the 30/06 based 270 Winchester. Hopefully he'll tell us.
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Post by AusTac » 29 Feb 2016, 8:24 am

Very jelous mate, shes sure in better condition than my 303 sporter
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Post by SHV » 29 Feb 2016, 9:17 am

bentaz wrote:Beautiful mate, how does she shoot?


I've got enough guns to shoot, this one just for display :lol: or shoot later after I reload
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Post by SHV » 29 Feb 2016, 9:56 am

Die Judicii wrote:Do you sleep with her ????????
:unknown: :silent: :lol:

Looks a bit like my old girl albeit mines still the same caliber.
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looks like the same except yours got longer barrel :thumbsup:
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Post by SHV » 29 Feb 2016, 10:17 am

GLS_1956 wrote:Very cool. Here in the States we seldom see sporterized SMLEs and rarer yet is one in any caliber other than 303. I have seen one that was converted to a 303 necked up to a 35 caliber, what I would call a 35/303.

I noticed that you listed the caliber as 303-270. I am assuming that it signifies the cartridge is a 303 British that has been necked down to .270 diameter. Generally in the USA when we "wildcat" a cartridge we first list the new bore diameter then give the parent case, so as in the case of the 22/250 we've taken the 250-3000, or 250 Savage and have necked it down to a 22 caliber. There are other more obscure examples but the 22/250 is best know, mainly because Remington "legitimized" it in the 1960s.

Anyway great gun enjoy it and good hunting/shooting.


thanks it looks like should be 270/303
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Post by SHV » 29 Feb 2016, 10:24 am

AusTac wrote:Very jelous mate, shes sure in better condition than my 303 sporter



only looks like in fair condition from those photos, quite lot marks on the stock I didn't show you :D



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Post by Heckler303 » 29 Feb 2016, 3:56 pm

That's a great looking 303-270 mate, and it should be an excellent cartridge too. Those old lee enfields are great rifles and the wildcats were something else. Maybe we should start of club of 303 wildcat rifle owners :lol:


I made a thread last month about a 303-25 I picked up for around $150:
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Which from what I could gather originally belonged to a kangaroo shooter (tell-tale scuff marks on the underside showed that he'd been resting it against a metal plate i.e roof of a car quite a bit) the condition at first was a bit average as you can see in the photo:


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But after stripping back the varnish and old coat, plus popping out as many dents as possible with hot soapy water and handy-andy, re-blueing some of the metal parts and giving it a good scrub and wash on the internals (a hefty amount of gunk was left on the internals), staining the wood and coating it with linseed oil, we've come up to this stage

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It's a very well balanced rifle and it shoots brilliantly with plenty of rifling left in it. It also has a lot less kick than a regular 303 I've noticed. It should make an excellent deer rifle now the season in Tasmania is opened.

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Post by Oldbloke » 29 Feb 2016, 5:27 pm

Not a fan of them but looks great. Well done. Enjoy.
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Post by SHV » 29 Feb 2016, 7:26 pm

Heckler303 wrote:That's a great looking 303-270 mate, and it should be an excellent cartridge too. Those old lee enfields are great rifles and the wildcats were something else. Maybe we should start of club of 303 wildcat rifle owners :lol:


I made a thread last month about a 303-25 I picked up for around $150:
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Which from what I could gather originally belonged to a kangaroo shooter (tell-tale scuff marks on the underside showed that he'd been resting it against a metal plate i.e roof of a car quite a bit) the condition at first was a bit average as you can see in the photo:


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But after stripping back the varnish and old coat, plus popping out as many dents as possible with hot soapy water and handy-andy, re-blueing some of the metal parts and giving it a good scrub and wash on the internals (a hefty amount of gunk was left on the internals), staining the wood and coating it with linseed oil, we've come up to this stage

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It's a very well balanced rifle and it shoots brilliantly with plenty of rifling left in it. It also has a lot less kick than a regular 303 I've noticed. It should make an excellent deer rifle now the season in Tasmania is opened.

Have great fun with yours, they're an Australian icon.



you really did a good job on it, hope I can do the same later
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Post by Modena » 29 Feb 2016, 7:43 pm

A 303 Enfield is what I learned to shoot on (as well as some nasty 22LR, don't know what that was). The Enfield sometimes had this issue where the firing pin would fire but not engage the round, we had to pull that rectangle bit (sorry don't know what it's called) at the back backwards with pliers to "re-cock" it, and give the trigger another squeeze. Dodgy for sure!

I would love to get one one day, where is the best place to look?
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Post by Title_II » 29 Feb 2016, 11:59 pm

Oh, sorry, we also Bubba Mausers. Probably the original Bubba Gun here in the States.

You guys have some nice looking Enfields. I never knew they were a popular wildcatter. I never knew anything was a popular wildcatter, I always thought those guys were just tinkerers.
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Post by Die Judicii » 01 Mar 2016, 11:48 am

SHV wrote:only looks like in fair condition from those photos, quite lot marks on the stock I didn't show you :D


Don't worry about the marks in the stock mate,,, they only serve as a reminder to its heritage and history.
And they also add to its character.

When I did mine, I got rid of quite a few of the dings because I carved and reshaped the original stock, but the others I left in it to serve its heritage.
When I bought mine (as a teenager) it came from an old croc shooter.

Only if you want a "show piece" do you get rid of all the dings.
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Post by COLLECTOR 1 » 02 Mar 2016, 8:39 am

You hit the nail on the head,.... "aussie icon".....

From an era when things were a bit harsher in life, but simple when it comes to firearms. The old conversions came in all shapes and sizes from the 303/22 falcon right up to 303/375....then there was the Epps variants, and a few real home grown jobs that were down right weird. My first ever centre fire at the prime age of 11 was a 303/25 on a No 1 Mk 3 action.

You have to give it to the early aussie gunsmiths, like Don Black Snr and Jack Hotchstat, they would try anything with the then "army" surplus... god the amount I've seen converted over the years, and lets not forget Sportco Australia that literally did hundreds of thousands of them....you couldn't own a military calibre...lol.....so lets get around that by designing our bloody own.

And they worked well.

I can remember as a kid my father and uncle armed with 303 Brit aussie conversation/calibres feeding the masses and hordes when we went away, and hand loading the used cartridges at the dinner table that night. I've seen shots pulled off with them that even by todays standards are incredible. If you were real lucky and you had enough money, and knew a "smithy" that could put a scope onto them, (most didn't).well then you were really up there.

And as I've said in another post somewhere, if only these rifles could talk....

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Post by Rocker » 14 Apr 2016, 10:44 am

Simpler when it came to everything. So much less political bulls**t crawling its way into every facet of life.
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Post by Heckler303 » 14 Apr 2016, 10:46 am

Rocker wrote:Simpler when it came to everything. So much less political bulls**t crawling its way into every facet of life.



People have got it so good right now they have to find things to complain about. They just keep screaming until they get more warm milk and cotton wool.
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Post by wrenchman » 14 Apr 2016, 11:57 am

if i go into canada it seems like every one has one i dont think you could go into a moose camp and not see one its a great gun.
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Post by Heckler303 » 14 Apr 2016, 12:24 pm

wrenchman wrote:if i go into canada it seems like every one has one i dont think you could go into a moose camp and not see one its a great gun.



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Post by Arth » 21 Apr 2016, 9:54 am

Seems like this collection is going to be sizeable once it's done :D
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Post by Jeff303 » 20 Jun 2017, 8:27 am

Had an exellent blacks 303-270. Local smithy couldnt give it away, i paid 175 put a cheap scope on it & made one load a 130gn nosler bt, it shot so brilliantly i never developed another. Grouped like stink. Sold to to fund family comitments. Regret that
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Post by Gun-nut » 20 Jun 2017, 8:05 pm

Modena wrote:A 303 Enfield is what I learned to shoot on (as well as some nasty 22LR, don't know what that was). The Enfield sometimes had this issue where the firing pin would fire but not engage the round, we had to pull that rectangle bit (sorry don't know what it's called) at the back backwards with pliers to "re-cock" it, and give the trigger another squeeze. Dodgy for sure!

I would love to get one one day, where is the best place to look?


Dud rounds are pretty common with surplus ammunition, happened to me at the range when I was firing some of the P.O.F ammo built in the 60s (might of been made earlier, not sure). The beautiful thing about the enfield and rifles like it, is the ability to pull back the cocking piece and fire again without cycling the action.
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Post by TBJ » 23 Jun 2017, 11:04 pm

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Post by juststarting » 23 Jun 2017, 11:25 pm

Jezzami101 wrote:Damn now I want a milsurp rifle


You need to go here... https://enoughgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7168
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