FN Mauser 30-06 logo removed? range report, detail photos

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FN Mauser 30-06 logo removed? range report, detail photos

Post by SHV » 19 Apr 2016, 3:08 pm

got the FN 30-06 Mauser today, looks alright but the factory/national logo removed for some reason, anybody got the idea why and where it come from? thanks
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Re: FN Mauser 30-06 1950-1951

Post by SHV » 19 Apr 2016, 3:09 pm

some other pics

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Post by SHV » 19 Apr 2016, 3:11 pm

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Re: FN Mauser 30-06 1950-1951

Post by SHV » 19 Apr 2016, 3:13 pm

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Post by SHV » 19 Apr 2016, 3:20 pm

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Re: FN Mauser 30-06 1950-1951 logo removed?

Post by No1Mk3 » 20 Apr 2016, 5:22 am

G'day SHV,
The national crests were often removed when rifles were sold out of service, or purchased by another country. As to where it came from, these rifles were used by many countries, and to narrow this one down to a couple of users would take a close examination of all the markings, starting with the left side rail, then measuring the length of the action to see if it is 8.5"(216mm) or 8.75"(222mm), then checking the Peron and proof marks. About all I can say at the moment is it is not Colombian, nor Argentine, Put up some pics of the left side rail, Cheers.
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Re: FN Mauser 30-06 1950-1951 logo removed?

Post by Supaduke » 20 Apr 2016, 8:21 am

It was made in Belgium by FN Herstal. It was made for the Belgian Army as a stop gap while the FN49 semi auto was being built and developed. It was factory chambered in 30-06 thanks to Belgium joining NATO and being given access to vast quantities of U.S. surplus ammo. The FN factory was making mausers during the war and so had the tooling and experience to make these straight away while wAiting for the FN49 to come online. They are made of quality tool steel and as there was no wartime expediency they were well crafted. On a technical level they are one of the best military Mausers you can buy, but for whatever reason have never resonated with collectors so are quite cheap . I'm assuming because they are post war and never saw any real active service, besides some being used in Belgian Congo .
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Re: FN Mauser 30-06 1950-1951 logo removed?

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 20 Apr 2016, 8:56 am

Scrubbed would indicate it could be re-arsenaled, or captured/traded.... or perhaps an owner simple dis-approved of being reminded of a particular coat of arms.....

Yugoslavia used FN mausers and other makes before they started producing full rifles in house,
Various other nations also used FN...
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Re: FN Mauser 30-06 1950-1951 logo removed?

Post by SHV » 20 Apr 2016, 11:57 am

No1Mk3 wrote:G'day SHV,
The national crests were often removed when rifles were sold out of service, or purchased by another country. As to where it came from, these rifles were used by many countries, and to narrow this one down to a couple of users would take a close examination of all the markings, starting with the left side rail, then measuring the length of the action to see if it is 8.5"(216mm) or 8.75"(222mm), then checking the Peron and proof marks. About all I can say at the moment is it is not Colombian, nor Argentine, Put up some pics of the left side rail, Cheers.



thanks alot, will take more detailed photos

BTW after just a little polish, the stock now is quite glossy and smoothly

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Re: FN Mauser 30-06 1950-1951 logo removed? range report 20/

Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 12:15 am

just came back from St Mary's

first 5 shot, 50 meters iron sight, not too bad :lol:


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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 12:17 am

another 5 shot

feels good especially the trigger, love it


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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 12:19 am

looks good too...


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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 10:46 am

detail photos

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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 10:51 am

it's been removed most of the part

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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 10:53 am

left a little puzzle

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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 10:55 am

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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 10:56 am

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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 10:57 am

butt nothing here

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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 10:58 am

nothing on the trigger guard

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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 11:00 am

nothing on the mag lid as well


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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 11:02 am

bolt

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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 11:03 am

close look

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Post by SHV » 21 Apr 2016, 11:04 am

other side

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Post by No1Mk3 » 22 Apr 2016, 4:17 am

It is Belgian. Enough of the receiver crest remains to confirm it was the Crown/B/ABL/1952. The little triangle on the right of your 2nd pic is the remnant of the L in the ABL stamp, and the round dots are either side of the Crown, the curved remnant of stamp under the triangle cannot be a 1, so must be a 2. For that reason the letter under the Crown must have been "B" for King Baudouin as Leopold died in 1951. Properly speaking, in Belgian service your rifle was called the Fusil Mle 1924, which FN designated the M1935/46, and M1950. (I have an M1950 Congo FP) I believe yours is a re-chambered M1935 built in 1952 due to your sight leaf only being calibrated to 1900m when M1950 rifles had a 2000m sight leaf. Your receiver should be the standard length (8.75") and double broach cut, and the makers address should be in a font sans serif, Cheers.
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Post by SHV » 22 Apr 2016, 12:49 pm

No1Mk3 wrote:It is Belgian. Enough of the receiver crest remains to confirm it was the Crown/B/ABL/1952. The little triangle on the right of your 2nd pic is the remnant of the L in the ABL stamp, and the round dots are either side of the Crown, the curved remnant of stamp under the triangle cannot be a 1, so must be a 2. For that reason the letter under the Crown must have been "B" for King Baudouin as Leopold died in 1951. Properly speaking, in Belgian service your rifle was called the Fusil Mle 1924, which FN designated the M1935/46, and M1950. (I have an M1950 Congo FP) I believe yours is a re-chambered M1935 built in 1952 due to your sight leaf only being calibrated to 1900m when M1950 rifles had a 2000m sight leaf. Your receiver should be the standard length (8.75") and double broach cut, and the makers address should be in a font sans serif, Cheers.



WOW it's amazing, thanks a lot, the crest remains are exactly the same as 1952's (the dots rather than the small circles)


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Post by SHV » 22 Apr 2016, 12:51 pm

1951

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Post by SHV » 22 Apr 2016, 1:38 pm

No1Mk3 wrote:It is Belgian. Enough of the receiver crest remains to confirm it was the Crown/B/ABL/1952. The little triangle on the right of your 2nd pic is the remnant of the L in the ABL stamp, and the round dots are either side of the Crown, the curved remnant of stamp under the triangle cannot be a 1, so must be a 2. For that reason the letter under the Crown must have been "B" for King Baudouin as Leopold died in 1951. Properly speaking, in Belgian service your rifle was called the Fusil Mle 1924, which FN designated the M1935/46, and M1950. (I have an M1950 Congo FP) I believe yours is a re-chambered M1935 built in 1952 due to your sight leaf only being calibrated to 1900m when M1950 rifles had a 2000m sight leaf. Your receiver should be the standard length (8.75") and double broach cut, and the makers address should be in a font sans serif, Cheers.



really appreciate for the knowledge sharing

so that means this rifle was used by Belgium army or navy?

and re-chambered means in 1952 changed the bolt, the barrel and receiver for 30-06 and maybe the trigger as well? just keep the stock and rear sight leaf...but the stock, receiver and the bolt got the matching number, maybe re-stamped or maybe they even put the new stock (in this case will be totally new rifle then)
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Post by No1Mk3 » 22 Apr 2016, 4:36 pm

G'day SHV,
Very few changes had to occur for the 30-06, the bolt face was the same, as was the receiver, just being notched for the longer round. The barrel was bored, rifled and chambered or replaced if required. Rifles were mostly renumbered but not all were. Many M1935/46 rifles were also built from new for the 30-06 cartridge, which FN designated as M1950 rifles the same as mine, the only real indicator is the sight leaf and a few stamps as to what the "parent design" was. I would say your rifles Army, as all the Navy rifles were painted grey and I can't see any traces on yours, the Army rifles were painted black, and there is still paint on your buttplate. These late FN's are among the best rifles FN made and I love shooting mine, as I hope you will enjoy yours, Cheers.
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