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Re: Howa

Post by Mongrel » 24 Jun 2016, 11:04 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Have a look here.

https://www.ssaa.org.au/stories/hints-tips.html


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Re: Howa

Post by happyhunter » 25 Jun 2016, 10:16 am

Die Judicii wrote:I didnt notice before tapping this out, but a stainless barrell is easier to keep clean of copper fouling unlike blued.
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..and you base this claim on?
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Re: Howa

Post by MalleeFarmer » 25 Jun 2016, 10:30 am

happyhunter wrote:
Die Judicii wrote:I didnt notice before tapping this out, but a stainless barrell is easier to keep clean of copper fouling unlike blued.
ENJOY.
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..and you base this claim on?


I think it depends entirely on the quality and finish of the barrel. I personally think any difference is perceived and not really verifiable. In my opinion a quality Custom Chromoly barrel such as a krieger would be easier to clean than say a stainless Ruger barrel.
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Re: Howa

Post by Wm.Traynor » 25 Jun 2016, 11:22 am

Mongrel
I'll bet your head is spinning from all this advice. Mine is just from re-reading all the posts to make sure of what everyone was saying.

Ballistol.........goes in the bore for short term rust protection
Metho will clean out the factory preservative

Don't put oil in the action or the bolt. It can be transferred to the cartridges in the magazine. Oil on the case can increase backthrust on the bolt lugs.
Brass or bronze brushes........they'll know what you mean :) Come to think of it, I really don't know which is the correct expression. I have been using both all my life :unknown:
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Re: Howa

Post by Gamerancher » 25 Jun 2016, 11:30 am

I think they are Phosphor-bronze.
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Re: Howa

Post by Wm.Traynor » 25 Jun 2016, 1:54 pm

Gamerancher wrote:I think they are Phosphor-bronze.

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Re: Howa

Post by bigfellascott » 25 Jun 2016, 3:30 pm

Don't forget to put a light smear of grease on the bolt lugs too :thumbsup: wipe ya bolt and action over with oil after each shooting session along with all other metal parts to help prevent rust etc (stainless steel isn't rustless steel) so don't make the mistake many make and think it won't rust, it will if you neglect it over time, I use Lanox for all my metal parts and it's been great, good ol sewing machine oil does a great job too (used it for around 30yrs now) so no need to be conned into thinking you have to use some "Firearms Specific" oil as it's all BS!
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Re: Howa

Post by Mongrel » 25 Jun 2016, 3:36 pm

Wm.Traynor wrote:Mongrel
I'll bet your head is spinning from all this advice.


You got no idea lol
Really appreciate it though so thanks all.
I will head to bunnings tomorow to get some metho but if i dont use gun tonorow i will put ballistol through it. Do i ckean out ballistol before use? Or that light smear eobt do harm?
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Re: Howa

Post by bigfellascott » 25 Jun 2016, 3:50 pm

Yeah remove any oil from the bore before use and replace once ready to put away.
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Re: Howa

Post by happyhunter » 25 Jun 2016, 4:20 pm

Cleaning a rifle is nowhere as complicated as some people are making it out to be. Just remember things like bronze brushes wear out so replace them often as it will save time when cleaning your rifle. When you use copper solvents, they will break down the copper in the brushes alloy so a couple nylon brushes and a no-trace jag will be handy.

For cleaning my 308 I have this in the kit,
1. A bronze brush plus a couple spare.
2. A couple nylon bore brushes.
3. One piece cleaning rod.
4. One brass jag and one no-trace jag (no-trace for applying copper solvent)
5. Roll of cotton material to cut my own patches from

If you use bronze or brass components to apply and remove copper solvent you will get false copper reading, hence the no-trace jag and nylon brush for the applying/swabbing out copper solvent.
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Re: Howa

Post by Mongrel » 25 Jun 2016, 4:28 pm

happyhunter wrote:Cleaning a rifle is nowhere as complicated as some people are making it out to be. Just remember things like bronze brushes wear out so replace them often as it will save time when cleaning your rifle. When you use copper solvents, they will break down the copper in the brushes alloy so a couple nylon brushes and a no-trace jag will be handy.

For cleaning my 308 I have this in the kit,
1. A bronze brush plus a couple spare.
2. A couple nylon bore brushes.
3. One piece cleaning rod.
4. One brass jag and one no-trace jag (no-trace for applying copper solvent)
5. Roll of cotton material to cut my own patches from

If you use bronze or brass components to apply and remove copper solvent you will get false copper reading, hence the no-trace jag and nylon brush for the applying/swabbing out copper solvent.


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Re: Howa

Post by NukeBOMB88 » 27 Jun 2016, 10:50 am

I've got two HOWA rifles and I love em, with all my rifles I just clean the barrel out before I shoot it and then after that ... Never again . Doesn't seem to hurt them and all my rifles shoot under 1 MOA
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Re: Howa

Post by MalleeFarmer » 27 Jun 2016, 12:49 pm

NukeBOMB88 wrote:I've got two HOWA rifles and I love em, with all my rifles I just clean the barrel out before I shoot it and then after that ... Never again . Doesn't seem to hurt them and all my rifles shoot under 1 MOA


:shock: never??? My god Man... I cleaned a rifle for a mate that had never had the bore cleaned out and it was pitted and rough as guts. It was a Howa only shot 2-2.5moa when I re sighted it for him.. :thumbsdown: hey if it works for you that's great but if I spend $1000+ on a rifle I want it to shoot for as long a possible.
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Re: Howa

Post by POD89 » 27 Jun 2016, 3:08 pm

Howa's are great.
i just picked up a .223 recently and i love it.
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Re: Howa

Post by Wm.Traynor » 27 Jun 2016, 3:15 pm

NukeBOMB88 wrote:I've got two HOWA rifles and I love em, with all my rifles I just clean the barrel out before I shoot it and then after that ... Never again . Doesn't seem to hurt them and all my rifles shoot under 1 MOA


Owing to youthful ignorance, my first centrefire was never cleaned properly and its barrel pitted extensively.

"Cleanliness is next to Godlinees", they used to say. It harks back to the days when priming compound was mercuric, a chemical that seems to have been highly injurious to rifle bores. It was before my time but carbon, the burned stuff left in the bore, appears to "hold" moisture against the bore to produce rust pits.
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Re: Howa

Post by Mongrel » 27 Jun 2016, 6:43 pm

NukeBOMB88 wrote:I've got two HOWA rifles and I love em, with all my rifles I just clean the barrel out before I shoot it and then after that ... Never again . Doesn't seem to hurt them and all my rifles shoot under 1 MOA


Wow, your one lucky man i think.
Im gonna be cleaning mine after every use and i will be running in the barrel.

But I was told today from a guy at work that i cant go to rifle range to run my barrel in cause i dont have any sights (glass or iron)
Gonna have to ring them coz that sux if its true :(
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Re: Howa

Post by Wm.Traynor » 27 Jun 2016, 7:12 pm

Mongrel, I have shot at Belmont without sights, simply by sighting down the barrel at an area between target posts. You could ask the Yandina office bearers if that is acceptable by phoning one day before the Wednesday afternoon session.
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Re: Howa

Post by Mongrel » 27 Jun 2016, 7:30 pm

Wm.Traynor wrote:Mongrel, I have shot at Belmont without sights, simply by sighting down the barrel at an area between target posts. You could ask the Yandina office bearers if that is acceptable by phoning one day before the Wednesday afternoon session.


Cheers WM. Thats what i will be doing but for the sunday session as i cant make it there on wednesdays.
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Re: Howa

Post by NukeBOMB88 » 28 Jun 2016, 11:19 am

MalleeFarmer wrote:
NukeBOMB88 wrote:I've got two HOWA rifles and I love em, with all my rifles I just clean the barrel out before I shoot it and then after that ... Never again . Doesn't seem to hurt them and all my rifles shoot under 1 MOA


:shock: never??? My god Man... I cleaned a rifle for a mate that had never had the bore cleaned out and it was pitted and rough as guts. It was a Howa only shot 2-2.5moa when I re sighted it for him.. :thumbsdown: hey if it works for you that's great but if I spend $1000+ on a rifle I want it to shoot for as long a possible.


Well when I say never what I mean is I never use any solvents, once a month I run a few patches of Eezox through to avoid any rust, I also apply Eezox to the outside and bolt of the rifles and I've never had any problems with rust
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NukeBOMB88 wrote:I've got two HOWA rifles and I love em, with all my rifles I just clean the barrel out before I shoot it and then after that ... Never again . Doesn't seem to hurt them and all my rifles shoot under 1 MOA


Wow, your one lucky man i think.
Im gonna be cleaning mine after every use and i will be running in the barrel.

But I was told today from a guy at work that i cant go to rifle range to run my barrel in cause i dont have any sights (glass or iron)
Gonna have to ring them coz that sux if its true :(


Yeah nah whatever floats your boat, can't hurt to be careful :D

Man that's a bummer about needing sights to go :cry:
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Re: Howa

Post by Rocker » 25 Jul 2016, 10:46 am

NukeBOMB88 wrote:whatever floats your boat


Usually it's water :mrgreen:
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