Show me your milsurps

[Title_II]

Whoah

Nice handgun.

[Wm.Traynor]

Whoah

Nice handgun.

Yep Like the old rifle too

[No1Mk3]

Smith and Wesson Model 1917 in 45ACP. This particular revolver was part of a 1937 contract for Brazil, where they were known as Modelo 1937 and served with them until the early '70's, including with the Brazilian Expeditionary Forces in Italy during WW2.

[Title_II]

You mates have good taste in milsurp handguns. Here we are flooded with top break garbage and of course endless piles of Nagants covered in cos. How did you end up with all our guns?

Although I do have to admit when we were kids we grabbed a couple of those top breaks and a couple boxes of ammo and had a bit of fun down by the creek!

[Wylie27]

Sorry i Resized the pics they were toooooooo big.

I picked this up on the weekend, One of my Christmas presents to myself... Ruined by the FAR waiting on the PTA lol

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I opened up the storage compartment in the butt and these fell out.

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[Gun-nut]

Sorry i Resized the pics they were toooooooo big.

I picked this up on the weekend, One of my Christmas presents to myself... Ruined by the FAR waiting on the PTA lol

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I opened up the storage compartment in the butt and these fell out.

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Mate beautiful rifle, imagine if that rifle could speak...oh the stories it would tell.

[No1Mk3]

G'day Wylie27,
Nice to get an old Range Rifle, did you get the sight with it? Your sight plate doesn't really look like a Central from the pics you showed, can you do a good one of just the sight plate? If you need a sight I believe some of the folk here may have one, or if it really is a Central plate you could buy a new T-Mac, Cheers.

[Supaduke]

Cool three-oh. Hopefully it's a decent shooter. Looks nice.

[Wylie27]

Gun-Nut i know, i was holding it this morning looking for serial numbers and was thinking where have you been and what have you done? You are in beautiful nick.

No1Mk3, i didnt get the sights with it. I have attached a pic of the sight plate and its stamped central no 4. It has screwed into it part of the safety lever, i presume so it wasnt lost i guess! Looks like i just need some spacers and i can put that back on.

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Looking for serial numbers and the found something interesting, the receiver, barrel, bolt, and nose cap all match. There is something etched in the wood just behind the nose cap but it is to warn to see. The magazine does no have a serial number at all.

I have taken pics of all the markings i could find and I am going to spend the day researching it!

[Wylie27]

i hate iphones... sorry for the upside down pics

[No1Mk3]

G'day Wylie27,
Now I see what confused me. One way not to lose your dumb-bell spring! So a Central or a T-Mac on the shopping list. As for numbers, it is not unusual for replacement bolts to be numbered to the rifle, to check for original bolts on Australian produced rifles, check the 4 digit number underneath the bolt handle matches the one on the right hand rear of the action bolt way. This is a production number added during manufacture and will tell if it is the original bolt or not, Cheers.

[Wylie27]

Hey no1mk3

I was looking online for a central sight lol.

The 4 digit numbers match too..

I am trying to get to the farm this weekend to shoot it! Lol

[Cooper]

I haven't worked how to post pics yet. But I have done some reloads for the Father in laws 1944 SMLE. It also has a central no 4 bracket on it. But no sight. Don't think it will turn up as the Father in law cannot remember clearly seeing in the last 30 years. I'd be interested in getting a new sight or putting smithless scope mount on as the Father in law cannot use the open sights with bad eyes/glasses etc. I try to work out how to post pics.

[Cooper]

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Hopefully I've uploaded some pictures!

[Wylie27]

A very nice example there Cooper.

Was the wood shaved under the plate?

Do you get to shoot it much?

[Cooper]

A very nice example there Cooper.

Was the wood shaved under the plate?

Do you get to shoot it much?

Yeah the wood is shaved under the plate. Don't know why. All the numbers seem to match bolt/receiver/ rifle end. But the stock butt says 1945 whereas the rifle stamp says 1944.
I have done some reloads for it.
Hornady 150gr soft points
38grains of AR2208 (just started in the middle)
Sellior and Bellot cases.

I've only fired it about twenty times so but can hit a 10inch metal gong at 100 metres most of the time. The front sight was a bit loose and had to moved across. I wouldn't mind putting a smith less scope mount on and seeing how it can actually group with a scope. I am not the best with open sights. Need a bit more practice!

[Wylie27]

I am sure there was a reason for the shaving of the wood, maybe it was a fitment. Mine is shimmed which i am glad he did.

i am off to the farm this weekend and will be shooting it for the first time.. Picked up some PPU factory ammo for it.

[Title_II]

A very nice example there Cooper.

Was the wood shaved under the plate?

Do you get to shoot it much?

Yeah the wood is shaved under the plate. Don't know why. All the numbers seem to match bolt/receiver/ rifle end. But the stock butt says 1945 whereas the rifle stamp says 1944.

Maybe it was a Happy New Year rifle

I understand things were a little busy at that time and rifles were in high demand. Anything could have happened to get that out the door.

[No1Mk3]

G'day Cooper,
Wood was removed from that area in order to fit the sight mounting plate square and parallel to the rifles axis. It needed to be done for most diopter sights such as the Lane, Parker Hale etc. A Central sight can often be found by asking around at VRA ranges, or buy a brand new T-Mac from Jeff Pannan at the next gunshow. (T-Mac are the inheritors of the Central sight and all parts are interchangeable) You will be looking at $180 to $250 for a Central or $225 for a T-Mac. (That might have changed)Cheers.
PS: I bought a no drill scope mount from Addley Precision of Canada and find them to be very good.

[Heckler303]

I feel like I should add to this thread, but if I included all the sporterized milsurps as well my post would lead into another page.

[Title_II]

I feel like I should add to this thread, but if I included all the sporterized milsurps as well my post would lead into another page.

You Bubba gunned your milsurps?

[Heckler303]

I feel like I should add to this thread, but if I included all the sporterized milsurps as well my post would lead into another page.

You Bubba gunned your milsurps?

Nah, me and the old man collect bubba'd Lee Enfields and M17/P14s and make them happy little sporters.

However, I am guilty of bubba gunning one item...

[Cooper]

G'day Cooper,
Wood was removed from that area in order to fit the sight mounting plate square and parallel to the rifles axis. It needed to be done for most diopter sights such as the Lane, Parker Hale etc. A Central sight can often be found by asking around at VRA ranges, or buy a brand new T-Mac from Jeff Pannan at the next gunshow. (T-Mac are the inheritors of the Central sight and all parts are interchangeable) You will be looking at $180 to $250 for a Central or $225 for a T-Mac. (That might have changed)Cheers.
PS: I bought a no drill scope mount from Addley Precision of Canada and find them to be very good.

Thanks for the info No1Mk3 I'll check out the Tmac and Addly Precision mounts.

[bladeracer]

Spotted this just now on Ebay and remembered you guys discussing it.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Central-4-Peep-Sight-/112292273213

[juststarting]

Alright guys, here it is... Schmidt-Rubin 1911 (AKA K11).

I intentionally went after the K11 and not K31. This is not to say I wouldn't like to get my hands on a K31, though to be perfectly honest I am take it or leave it on that one and I had a couple of offers, but at this stage I was after K11. Just like I was after a Mosin made in specific period, etc. I like the action, for its time one of a kind engineering masterpiece. So, I really wanted that, a rifle built by Shmidt and not something else. K11 is the last rifle designed by Shmidt, K31 by someone else. There are small nuances and biggest one being the bolt, doesn't bother me. I am aware that K31 is overall a better rifle (marginally), but if I wanted a better rifle I'd get a Tikka or a Browning... I wanted a straightpull Shmidt-Ruben carbine, which happens to be K11 (K31 shares the same name, but wasn't designed by Shmidt).




















I had couple of people get in touch from Usedguns, but in the end I ended up getting it from a dealer, $300 cheaper than the closest offer. Wood, I think great for something that old. Bore - excellent.

I am not going to refurbish the stock on it. It could do with a bit of steaming and 000 sand paper, but I just love the character it has now. But I am thinking of rubbing it down with Birchwood Casey Gunstock Wax (nothing else, no oil), undecided, open to advice.

Now, I am shaking with anticipation, while I wait for dies and brass to get delivered

[juststarting]

Oh and came with original sling and muzzle cap (in photos), which is cool. Based on serial number search on www.swisswaffen.com, this old girl is at the ripe age of 90.

[darwindingo]

Very nice indeed I like the fact you got original sling and muzzle cap

Also very pleased you love her the way she is (must have good taste) and I agree (no cosmetic surgery required imo) love her the way she is... (Just not to much in front of the missus mate they get jealous you know )

I personally don't think that a little oiling would detract anything, wood in general seems to like it... If you sanded her all back and make her look all store bought then that would detract imo, but as your eye's are capable to see the beauty before them, that's clearly not about to happen

I'm with envy...

Now where is that ranking thread



Jeff

[Title_II]

I don't think I've ever seen one of those. What the heck is on the muzzle?

[juststarting]

A muzzle protector cap that they come with.

[Title_II]

thanks!