Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 07 Feb 2017, 7:01 pm

Wylie27 wrote:It won't hurt when you have it in your hands..

Yeah I know maybe I want them all :mrgreen:
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rsj223 wrote:Yeah I know just thinking about doing it all again hurts


Yes it can be a PITF but still you have to make a choice and get going, we can all say buy this buy that this is better because etc etc but at the end of the day they all represent a risk of some sort as to whether you like them or not, just chose the one you like the most and go from there, as I said if it's not what you thought it would be sell it and buy something else (we've all had to go through the same thing and some have been successes and others failures, such is life - move on and hope for better results next time.

Good luck. :thumbsup:

I promises to decide and get on with it :drinks:
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rsj223 wrote:Just an update, still haven't got a replacement yet but went to the LGS held them all again and still sitting with The Lithgow, Anschutz 1416dhb and a cheaper item the Ruger American



I need to practice going to a gun store and NOT buying something.

No chance I buy at least some ammo just because
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by bigfellascott » 07 Feb 2017, 8:50 pm

Which one do you like the most and can afford.
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 07 Feb 2017, 9:25 pm

Ok Ruger will save about $300 (more ammo) but no guarantee how accurate, Annie should be the most likely to group well and last a long time? and cost me another $300ish, Lithgow... AUS should group well but feed crap even on the $$$, as I say they all feel ok to me dont like the new CZ looked and felt Sako
I have a Ruger in 17hmr and is pretty good as most 17"s are I think the more I talk the harder it gets.
I think I'm 50/50 Ruger and Annie
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by bigfellascott » 07 Feb 2017, 9:29 pm

Heads Annie, Tails Ruger :D
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 07 Feb 2017, 9:39 pm

:lol: :drinks: :lol:
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by bladeracer » 07 Feb 2017, 10:13 pm

rsj223 wrote:Ok Ruger will save about $300 (more ammo) but no guarantee how accurate, Annie should be the most likely to group well and last a long time? and cost me another $300ish, Lithgow... AUS should group well but feed crap even on the $$$, as I say they all feel ok to me dont like the new CZ looked and felt Sako
I have a Ruger in 17hmr and is pretty good as most 17"s are I think the more I talk the harder it gets.
I think I'm 50/50 Ruger and Annie



What about the new Ruger American Rimfire Target model - are they shooting any better than the originals?
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 07 Feb 2017, 11:02 pm

Didn't know there was a target model, cant find it in Oz just USA but looks great
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 07 Feb 2017, 11:13 pm

Cant find it on the Nioa site I think there the only one that brings them in?
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by Gwion » 08 Feb 2017, 6:17 am

Scrap the lot and go Sako!
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 08 Feb 2017, 7:07 am

Gwion wrote:Scrap the lot and go Sako!

Found one but didn't like the feel.
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by Gwion » 08 Feb 2017, 7:27 am

rsj223 wrote:
Gwion wrote:Scrap the lot and go Sako!

Found one but didn't like the feel.


Which one: Finnfire II or Quad?
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 08 Feb 2017, 8:01 am

Only the Fin I think the Quad might be a bit pricey for me
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by allan » 08 Feb 2017, 1:32 pm

rsj223 wrote:Ok Ruger will save about $300 but no guarantee how accurate, Annie should be the most likely to group well and last a long time? and cost me another $300ish, Lithgow... AUS should group well but feed crap ,,,,as I say they all feel ok to me


That new TARGET offering from Ruger does look interesting.
Never owned an Annie 22 which wasn't accurate. Have owned a number that wouldn't feed or eject without modification.
My new LA101 has set the benchmark...I'll say again, it is the best feeding and ejecting 22 I've owned. More accuracy testing lately in good conditions with a 20X scope has produced several 10X5 shot strings at 50 with Center X & Rifle Match (excellent lot number) averaging in the .3's". IME, few production 22's, regardless of cost, can do that.
(The LA101 has had a trigger job & re-cut crown so not entirely stock :D )
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by Gwion » 08 Feb 2017, 3:18 pm

Fair enough...
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Post by rsj223 » 08 Feb 2017, 6:39 pm

allan wrote:
rsj223 wrote:Ok Ruger will save about $300 but no guarantee how accurate, Annie should be the most likely to group well and last a long time? and cost me another $300ish, Lithgow... AUS should group well but feed crap ,,,,as I say they all feel ok to me


That new TARGET offering from Ruger does look interesting.
Never owned an Annie 22 which wasn't accurate. Have owned a number that wouldn't feed or eject without modification.
My new LA101 has set the benchmark...I'll say again, it is the best feeding and ejecting 22 I've owned. More accuracy testing lately in good conditions with a 20X scope has produced several 10X5 shot strings at 50 with Center X & Rifle Match (excellent lot number) averaging in the .3's". IME, few production 22's, regardless of cost, can do that.
(The LA101 has had a trigger job & re-cut crown so not entirely stock :D )

Gee I want to buy your 101, looking at selling it soon :unknown:
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 08 Feb 2017, 6:49 pm

got on to Nioa today the Ruger is on order (200 of them) with 91 pre ordered they wouldn't give me a RRP so onto the LGS to find out tomorrow :D
My thought s are, order the Ruger target just because and see just how low my LGS will go on a used Bruno 22 they have or just the basic Ruger American
Thanks bladeracer hope its the right price
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by allan » 08 Feb 2017, 8:59 pm

rsj223 wrote:got on to Nioa today the Ruger is on order (200 of them) with 91 pre ordered they wouldn't give me a RRP so onto the LGS to find out tomorrow :D


If you finish up with one of those Ruger Target versions, I would be most interested to hear your impressions.
Sorry, but my two LA101's aren't going anywhere - Currently in the process of moving on a few rifles including a 17XX Anschutz Custom which would pay for half a dozen Lithgows - Does that tell you something !!!
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by bladeracer » 08 Feb 2017, 9:22 pm

rsj223 wrote:got on to Nioa today the Ruger is on order (200 of them) with 91 pre ordered they wouldn't give me a RRP so onto the LGS to find out tomorrow :D
My thought s are, order the Ruger target just because and see just how low my LGS will go on a used Bruno 22 they have or just the basic Ruger American
Thanks bladeracer hope its the right price



I'm interested in it myself, although I already have the Compact.
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 08 Feb 2017, 9:55 pm

I have the compact in 17hmr an love it
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by bladeracer » 08 Feb 2017, 10:06 pm

rsj223 wrote:I have the compact in 17hmr an love it



I've got an MDT LSS-22 chassis en-route for mine, but I'm thinking the Target might be a better choice for the chassis.
Let us know if you find out a price on them - I might have to order one myself.
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 09 Feb 2017, 7:32 pm

bladeracer wrote:
rsj223 wrote:I have the compact in 17hmr an love it



I've got an MDT LSS-22 chassis en-route for mine, but I'm thinking the Target might be a better choice for the chassis.
Let us know if you find out a price on them - I might have to order one myself.

Got the call today its between $700 and $720 with no idea of the eta and 91 shops/people have then on order
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by bladeracer » 09 Feb 2017, 8:25 pm

rsj223 wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
rsj223 wrote:I have the compact in 17hmr an love it



I've got an MDT LSS-22 chassis en-route for mine, but I'm thinking the Target might be a better choice for the chassis.
Let us know if you find out a price on them - I might have to order one myself.

Got the call today its between $700 and $720 with no idea of the eta and 91 shops/people have then on order



Think a visit to my dealer tomorrow is in order then :-)
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 09 Feb 2017, 9:22 pm

bladeracer wrote:
rsj223 wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
rsj223 wrote:I have the compact in 17hmr an love it



I've got an MDT LSS-22 chassis en-route for mine, but I'm thinking the Target might be a better choice for the chassis.
Let us know if you find out a price on them - I might have to order one myself.

Got the call today its between $700 and $720 with no idea of the eta and 91 shops/people have then on order



Think a visit to my dealer tomorrow is in order then :-)

Whats you thoughts on the what looks like a shorter barrel for target use?
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by bladeracer » 09 Feb 2017, 9:51 pm

The MDT chassis on the Ruger Compact.
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by NWhunter » 13 Feb 2017, 10:11 pm

Annie,s are overrated in 22 spotters they live off their target rifles reputation. I would take a Brno model 2 over a Annie any day
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by allan » 15 Feb 2017, 1:18 pm

NWhunter wrote:Annie,s are overrated in 22 spotters they live off their target rifles reputation. I would take a Brno model 2 over a Annie any day


I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion but may I ask how many Anschutz 54 sporters you have owned ?? :welcome:
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by bladeracer » 15 Feb 2017, 4:24 pm

rsj223 wrote:Whats you thoughts on the what looks like a shorter barrel for target use?



I seem to have screwed up and deleted my response to this.

I've emailed Ruger asking if the Rimfire Target has a sport or competition chamber but no response so far.

.22LR only needs 18" of barrel at most, anything longer just increases the time that the bullet can be effected by the shooter.
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by deye243 » 15 Feb 2017, 4:33 pm

allan wrote:
rsj223 wrote:got on to Nioa today the Ruger is on order (200 of them) with 91 pre ordered they wouldn't give me a RRP so onto the LGS to find out tomorrow :D


If you finish up with one of those Ruger Target versions, I would be most interested to hear your impressions.
Sorry, but my two LA101's aren't going anywhere - Currently in the process of moving on a few rifles including a 17XX Anschutz Custom which would pay for half a dozen Lithgows - Does that tell you something !!![/quote]

yep .... and if I had the funds I would have a 101 in 17 as well 8-) I already have 2 mags for it :lol:
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by bladeracer » 16 Feb 2017, 5:59 pm

deye243 wrote:
allan wrote:
rsj223 wrote:got on to Nioa today the Ruger is on order (200 of them) with 91 pre ordered they wouldn't give me a RRP so onto the LGS to find out tomorrow :D


If you finish up with one of those Ruger Target versions, I would be most interested to hear your impressions.
Sorry, but my two LA101's aren't going anywhere - Currently in the process of moving on a few rifles including a 17XX Anschutz Custom which would pay for half a dozen Lithgows - Does that tell you something !!![/quote]

yep .... and if I had the funds I would have a 101 in 17 as well 8-) I already have 2 mags for it :lol:



I have my name (and deposit) on one of them but it'll be a few months away apparently.
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Re: Anschutz 1416 or CZ or ????

Post by rsj223 » 24 Feb 2017, 9:28 pm

Ordered a Ruger american target .22 but could take up to 2 months to get here so the LGS has a CZ452 HB for about $850 used what your thoughts on this until the Roger hits my hands
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