Gwion wrote:Or a straight taper. I got a light straight taper from Truflite for my 7-08. Looks great, shoots great and loses a bit of weight from the truck axle bull barrel. Get it in 18-20" and you will have a rifle that points very well for off hand work.
Gamerancher wrote:Does my barrel look fat in this stock??
It's all good.
Comment was mainly indicating that if he re-barrels he can get whatever he wants.
On another subject Gwion, I should be coming down to Tassie October this year, Be great to meet up and give some trout a bit of
harassment and .
in2anity wrote:Gamerancher wrote:Does my barrel look fat in this stock??
It's all good.
Comment was mainly indicating that if he re-barrels he can get whatever he wants.
On another subject Gwion, I should be coming down to Tassie October this year, Be great to meet up and give some trout a bit of
harassment and .
Lol - I suppose you'd have to take out a bit of material in the mini-action stock so it's still free floating right?
Gamerancher wrote:Does my barrel look fat in this stock??
It's all good.
Comment was mainly indicating that if he re-barrels he can get whatever he wants.
On another subject Gwion, I should be coming down to Tassie October this year, Be great to meet up and give some trout a bit of
harassment and .
Gwion wrote:Or a straight taper. I got a light straight taper from Truflite for my 7-08. Looks great, shoots great and loses a bit of weight from the truck axle bull barrel. Get it in 18-20" and you will have a rifle that points very well for off hand work.
Gwion wrote:No mate. It's just s joke term for a big fat long barrel. Looks like a truck axle in a rifle stock.
deye243 wrote:this is funny chit a truck axel barrel but he wants a 3kg rifle ............ NOT happening unless it's 10" long
if you want a 3kg rifle the about the best you can hope for is a #3 at about 20" long
deye243 wrote:yeah I have a 5 on my 223 but he should be able to handle 50 or so shots out of a 300blk
recoil should be about the same as a 6.5 x 55 without going to heave and he was also talking
about offhand shooting so what is he built like
slickncghia wrote:Pretty sure the ruger American ranch comes in 300 blackout. Might fit the bill right out of the gate
16" barrel. 1:7 twist cheap light ... Gogogo
in2anity wrote:
But is it a HB rifle? How would it handle long strings of shots? Remember I plink 10 at a time, x10 so 100 shots in one session. Don't worry this rifle definitely caught my eye... it would save a hell of a lot of work and $$. Have you had personal experience with it?
slickncghia wrote:in2anity wrote:
But is it a HB rifle? How would it handle long strings of shots? Remember I plink 10 at a time, x10 so 100 shots in one session. Don't worry this rifle definitely caught my eye... it would save a hell of a lot of work and $$. Have you had personal experience with it?
Still not 100℅ sure of the end purpose? Short medium range cheap plinking offhand? Pistol caliber lever? I dn
in2anity wrote:deye243 wrote:this is funny chit a truck axel barrel but he wants a 3kg rifle ............ NOT happening unless it's 10" long
if you want a 3kg rifle the about the best you can hope for is a #3 at about 20" long
Laugh all you want buddy but I don't think so - give or take a few hundred grams. Remember it won't have optics so there's a few hundred right there. Under 4kg is achievable. The 223 mini action has a HB, AND it's 20", weighing in at 2.99kg. I never said I wanted a bench barrel - just not a sporter.
in2anity wrote:Off the back of discussions we've had in other thread I would like to propose a compact .30 cal, heavy-barrel target rifle that is still light enough to plink with offhand for extended periods at the range. It needs to weigh around 3kg, take most 308win projectiles, and have a tight enough twist to stabilise long heavy projectiles (perhaps up to 220gr?). It's really important that it can handle cast lead - this is what I'll predominantly be shooting; gas-checked 308 165gn rnfps. A 10 shot magazine is also a must.
So here goes (thanks Gwion for originally suggesting this idea):
1. Pick up a Howa mini-action HB in .223 (preferably with a target/varmint stock)
2. Have it rebarreled and re-chambered for 300blk
3. Get it dovetailed for a front sight at the same time
4. Throw a target aperture receiver on the rear mount
So here are some questions for you knowledgeable folk regarding this proposition:
a) The muzzle diameter for the Howa mini-action HB is .725"; would rebarreling up to .30 cal mean it's heat-dispersion capabilities would be dramatically reduced?
b) Would it be safe to presume that such a rifle be still as deadly accurate (sub moa 5-10 shot groups)? Would the thinner barrel dramatically change the harmonics and thus accuracy?
c) Would there be enough meat in the barrel for the front dovetail after the rebarrel?
d) What twist rate would be appropriate? 1:7?
e) Would I be just better off buying something off-the-shelf in 300blk (like the Ruger Ranch)? Any other 300blk suggestions to fill these requirements?
f) Are there already 308wins that realistically tick all of these boxes; i.e. lightweight, short heavy barrel, tight twist, 10shot magazine, very accurate?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
bladeracer wrote:Get the American Ranch Rifle in 300BLK and drop it into an MDT LSS stock with ten-round AICS mags.
deye243 wrote:in2anity wrote:deye243 wrote:this is funny chit a truck axel barrel but he wants a 3kg rifle ............ NOT happening unless it's 10" long
if you want a 3kg rifle the about the best you can hope for is a #3 at about 20" long
Laugh all you want buddy but I don't think so - give or take a few hundred grams. Remember it won't have optics so there's a few hundred right there. Under 4kg is achievable. The 223 mini action has a HB, AND it's 20", weighing in at 2.99kg. I never said I wanted a bench barrel - just not a sporter.
didn't see this bit in the op just the bit about the for sight and it didn't click so this will be a fun little project .
cheers D