.303s are legendary

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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Title_II » 24 Feb 2017, 5:35 pm

What Aussies think WWII was (wink ;) ):

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What World War II really was (reminder to us all):

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Grey = Neutral
Green = Allied
Blue = Axis

It was a complete disaster of unfathomable proportions.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by juststarting » 24 Feb 2017, 5:43 pm

And that's boys and girls is how you hijack a thread. Sorry about that, actually I am no sorry, but whatever. He started it. In any case, I don't officially have it yet, but my No5Mk1 is in the mail and will be in my possession next Saturday at the latest.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 24 Feb 2017, 5:44 pm

Title_II wrote:.......10 starved to death in American concentration camps.

Then again, that's not exactly your neighborhood, now is it? I remember there was a tiny bit of action around your neighborhood as well :D


Guests at Eisenhower's holidays camps that no-one 'remembers'??
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Gamerancher » 24 Feb 2017, 5:49 pm

I've got a SMLE No.4 mkI, it would be the last rifle to get out of the safe if I actually wanted to hit something though.
As with most "legends", the older it gets, the better it was.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Title_II » 24 Feb 2017, 5:50 pm

juststarting wrote:And that's boys and girls is how you hijack a thread. Sorry about that, actually I am no sorry, but whatever. He started it. In any case, I don't officially have it yet, but my No5Mk1 is in the mail and will be in my possession next Saturday at the latest.


I started it? :D

.30-06 was not invented for WWII LOL. I'm pretty sure that was you :D

You brought up WWII and I thought a reminder was in order after an appropriate and fun post by you :) Not having a go at you, mate, just an opportunity for a brief reminder to us all. It's breathtaking and horrifying.

"You should have seen it in color." Thank goodness most of us didn't.

OK, enough of that from me.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by juststarting » 24 Feb 2017, 5:54 pm

Don't argue. You've started it.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Gwion » 24 Feb 2017, 6:11 pm

Don't own one. Never want to own one. Don't see the point unless you're a military buff.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Gamerancher » 24 Feb 2017, 6:20 pm

Yeah, only got mine to shoot service rifle silhouette. That's now been canned due to lack of interest.
Apart from wanting to get my hands on my grandfathers old full-bore rifle, they do nothing for me.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Gun-nut » 24 Feb 2017, 7:24 pm

I may or may not own a couple of no.5's ;)
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Jeff303 » 24 Feb 2017, 7:42 pm

I also love 30-06s , and a
I also enjoy wearing french maid outfits on a friday night when no one is around.
But what the f*** does any of that have to do with 303s being legendary
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Heckler303 » 24 Feb 2017, 8:14 pm

I am surprised that no one has summoned me to this thread. I am probably by far, the biggest user of .303 on this entire forum, and the biggest owner of 303 wildcats, which is a growing collection.


I am happy to say that the .303 cartridge is by far my most favorite of all. That's why it sits in my username and my signature. My father has taught me well on the cartridge, I have at least 8 books dedicated to Lee Enfields and the .303 on my shelf, a entire cabinet dedicated to .303 and .303 wildcat reloading gear, and best of all: 9 Rifles in my safe are either 303s, or 303 based wildcats. I regularly shoot them, and use anything from the hottest loads I can fit to the softest lead-cast bullets. Listed as such:

No. 1 mk 3 Full wood, matching numbers, Lithgow made, good nick. 3-4 inch group at 100.

No. 4 mk 1 T model, Full wood, matching numbers, Canadian Longbranch, Very good nick. Sub moa groups at 100 with telescopic sights.

Pattern 1914, Remington made, Full wood, matching numbers, still great nick for 102 years. 2-inch group at 100 with open sights.

No. 1 mk 3 cut-down, non-matching numbers, made into a make-shift carbine to replicate the No.5. Pretty, but pretty shot-out bore. Average 5 inch group at 100 with open sights.

No. 4 mk 1, 303-25 Wildcat. Made in England, good everything, nice replacement timber, shoots a cloverleaf at 100 yards. Not even sure what kind of inch group it shoots, the holes never get any bigger :D.

No. 5 mk 1 Jungle Carbine, 303-22 Wildcat. This rifle is still experimental, but it did shoot 0.9 inch group at 100 yards with slighter hotter than normal loads. Right now it can't hit the side of a barn door!

No. 1 mk 3, Lithgow made, Parker-hale sporterized Lee Enfield, which I have converted to a target rifle. It put a 3 shot group into a size of 2 inches....at 600 yards. That's enough said for it.

P14 Winchester, sniper variant, converted to a sporter. This one is a specialty as it comes in .303 epps, the magnum wildcat variant of this cartridge. Cloverleaf groups.

M17 Sporter, 303-25. This one is another WIP, and is currently having a scope-mount fit to it. Don't worry, I already bought it as a sporter, the only Enfield I am guilty of butchering is the mount for the No. 4 Mk 1 T rifle, which was a half-ass job that needed fixing by me.


I will eventually compile a picture list to go with them, my list is only worthy when I can show the wood and steel that has gotten so much love from me and millions of people across the world.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Wylie27 » 24 Feb 2017, 10:16 pm

When you say you of course you mean your dad......
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Post by <<Genesis93>> » 25 Feb 2017, 7:39 am

Wylie27 wrote:When you say you of course you mean your dad......


No important, a father is his son, and a son is his father.

Good on you Heck, you're doing well :thumbsup:
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 25 Feb 2017, 7:47 am

Gwion wrote:Don't own one. Never want to own one. Don't see the point unless you're a military buff.


You dont see the point??

I believe that any Aussie shooter, should help preserve our heritage, including the firearms our forefathers used.....its important to look 'forward' as well as 'back' to where we've been....

To me it means owning the type of rifle my g-grandfather carried in France Exactly 100yrs ago....

People of other heritage should also aspire to own the military arms of their forefathers, no matter which nation....because lets face it... the forces seeking to obliterate such items of history are numerous, and powerful/vocal.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by bladeracer » 25 Feb 2017, 8:27 am

<<Genesis93>> wrote:
Gwion wrote:Don't own one. Never want to own one. Don't see the point unless you're a military buff.


You dont see the point??

I believe that any Aussie shooter, should help preserve our heritage, including the firearms our forefathers used.....its important to look 'forward' as well as 'back' to where we've been....

To me it means owning the type of rifle my g-grandfather carried in France Exactly 100yrs ago....

People of other heritage should also aspire to own the military arms of their forefathers, no matter which nation....because lets face it... the forces seeking to obliterate such items of history are numerous, and powerful/vocal.



I've met lots and lots of shooters that would never own or shoot a milsurp purely because of the remote possibility it may have been used to kill somebody.
Pretty weird reasoning in my opinion.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 25 Feb 2017, 8:35 am

bladeracer wrote:I've met lots and lots of shooters that would never own or shoot a milsurp purely because of the remote possibility it may have been used to kill somebody.
Pretty weird reasoning in my opinion.


I'd say if its a milsurp that did actually return from the battlefield of WW1 or WW2.....then there would be a good chance it did.....
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Heckler303 » 25 Feb 2017, 9:08 am

Wylie27 wrote:When you say you of course you mean your dad......




No, both me and him. Collectively placed as a single owner.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by wrenchman » 25 Feb 2017, 9:40 am

303 chambered in a fighting mans gun.
in ww1 a lot of american troops used them we didnt have the arms to go around.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by bladeracer » 25 Feb 2017, 10:05 am

<<Genesis93>> wrote:I'd say if its a milsurp that did actually return from the battlefield of WW1 or WW2.....then there would be a good chance it did.....



Still a pretty remote chance I reckon, especially here where rifles have traveled through a long chain of inspections before hitting our civilian market. I think the vast majority of soldiers never fired a shot in anger, and most that did never hit anybody, although that's probably higher for the Russians and Germans, and possibly the Japanese. And lots of rifles that were in heavy combat would've probably been scrapped due to battle damage and heavy wear from the environments they were used in.
Anything that still shoots half decently now probably never left rear echelon areas.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Gwion » 25 Feb 2017, 1:03 pm

<<Genesis93>> wrote:
Gwion wrote:Don't own one. Never want to own one. Don't see the point unless you're a military buff.


You dont see the point??

I believe that any Aussie shooter, should help preserve our heritage, including the firearms our forefathers used.....its important to look 'forward' as well as 'back' to where we've been....

To me it means owning the type of rifle my g-grandfather carried in France Exactly 100yrs ago....

People of other heritage should also aspire to own the military arms of their forefathers, no matter which nation....because lets face it... the forces seeking to obliterate such items of history are numerous, and powerful/vocal.


Not interested in a flintlock either.
Doesn't mean I think someone else should not be into them; it's just that I am not.

Wouldn't mind a broad sword, though. Not saying you should buy one.

I use firearms for the everyday purposes I use them for. I have no need or desire for an old milsurp because there are other firearms that suit my needs more readily.

If you're a military buff, good for you but not all shooters have to be and the history of firearms use is not exclusively about war.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 25 Feb 2017, 2:27 pm

Yep, I'd say a history buff more so than a military buff.... perhaps a 'student of history'....I like to maintain a connection with our past.

Neither do I have any interest in a flintlock, but swords yes...I was handed down a sword as used by the 'Victorian Mounted Rifles' though I only use it to open Champagne nowadays..... my mounted charging days have past..
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by juststarting » 25 Feb 2017, 2:57 pm

Bunch of crazies.
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Hangfire » 25 Feb 2017, 3:34 pm

Savage No4 mk 1*(f) (ftr) far as i can tell just means it got a complete refurb around 1946
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Post by brett1868 » 25 Feb 2017, 6:49 pm

Jeff303 wrote:I also love 30-06s , and a
I also enjoy wearing french maid outfits on a friday night when no one is around.
But what the f*** does any of that have to do with 303s being legendary


Like all claims....it's BS without the pictures. I'm sure Oldbloke would love to see you in the French Maid Outfit :allegedly: :drinks:
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by bigpete » 26 Feb 2017, 2:33 am

juststarting wrote:
Title_II wrote:
.303s are legendary


I think you spelt .30-06 wrong :)


I think you spelt 7.62x54R wrong :)

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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by bigpete » 26 Feb 2017, 2:46 am

Owned 2,sold both in a fit of stupidity. The first one the barrel was that worn it keyholed at 25m,so I converted it to 308 single shot and killed my first sambar with it. It was dated 1907. Sacrilege,but I was young.
Second one was a sporterised mark 3 I think with a 4x pecar scope with a post reticle. After I cleaned it up it proved to be one of the best hunting rifles I ever owned. Regularly shot 1.5" groups at 100m with factory core lokt ammo,and bang thumped everything I shot it at.
An honourable mention was a mates sporterised sniper version that I shot once. The standard peep allowed extremely fine shooting at close range,and the adjustable peep allowed me to hit a head sized rock at over 400m 9/10 shots freehand. Amazing rifle. The idiot took the peeps off and chucked a tasco scope on it coz "its a sniper rifle". At least he didn't paint it black though !
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by Wylie27 » 26 Feb 2017, 7:18 am

Bentaz that's no good mate but a good haul!!

Martini is legendary! Would you ever shoot it?
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Re: .303s are legendary

Post by bigpete » 26 Feb 2017, 8:13 am

bentaz wrote:Had dinner at the old mans last night and long story short, due to health reasons he's giving up shooting which means I'm getting his martini.303 amongst others.

Aye that is bad news. But I admit a 303 martini is high on my list of firearm desires
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Post by bigpete » 26 Feb 2017, 11:33 am

Now your talking ! Or resleeve the barrel to 35 Territorian
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Post by fredhamish » 09 Mar 2017, 7:41 am

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Hi,
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I have only put 40 rounds downrange so i'm still getting used to it.
My LGS was cleaning out their gun safe so i was invited down to look through and one of the selections was the .303
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