Ruger American Ranch rifle in 223

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Re: Ruger American Ranch rifle in 223

Post by in2anity » 10 Apr 2017, 5:06 pm

bladeracer wrote:Why can't you shoot lead in a .308?
BLK and .308 are both short action, no difference there.
.308 full-power loads will run hotter for sure, but loaded down closer to BLK velocities I would think they'd run at similar temps.
For comparison of the Ruger American Ranch and Compact:
Ranch in 300BLK 16.12" barrel, 7" twist, 5.9lb, 36" length and 13.75" LoP, one-piece rail, threaded muzzle.
Compact in .308 18" barrel, 10" twist, 6lb, 36.75", 12.5" LoP, two-piece rail. RRP is US$40 less than the Ranch.


I can, and I potentially will, just looking for the right rifle, with the heaviest barrel possible... What's the crown diameter on the Compact? (vs the Ranch)
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Re: Ruger American Ranch rifle in 223

Post by in2anity » 10 Apr 2017, 7:25 pm

From what I can gather the Ruger Ranch has a muzzle diameter of around 0.7", slightly narrower at the tip due to the thread. The 700 SPS 16.5" is a bit fatter at around 0.85", again slightly narrower at the thread. As a comparison, the Howa HB Mini Action in 7.62x39 is 0.75"
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Re: Ruger American Ranch rifle in 223

Post by bladeracer » 10 Apr 2017, 7:46 pm

in2anity wrote:From what I can gather the Ruger Ranch has a muzzle diameter of around 0.7", slightly narrower at the tip due to the thread. The 700 SPS 16.5" is a bit fatter at around 0.85", again slightly narrower at the thread. As a comparison, the Howa HB Mini Action in 7.62x39 is 0.75"



I can tell you that the Standard 7mm-08 is 0.57" at the 22" muzzle, 0.63" at 18", and 0.65" at 16" - I would expect this to be the same as the Standard .308.
The Predator .243 is 0.73" from the muzzle back a full 14" to the last 8" of the chamber end.

The muzzles are threaded 5/8"-24TPI for .243 to .308 barrels. .204/.223 is 1/2"-28, 450 Bushmaster is 11/16"-24.
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Re: Ruger American Ranch rifle in 223

Post by Mitch » 10 Apr 2017, 9:11 pm

Brass for 300blk is under $50/100 brand new ADI.

Costs should be no more then approx $0.70/shot including the cost of brass.
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Re: Ruger American Ranch rifle in 223

Post by bladeracer » 11 Apr 2017, 11:04 am

vmaxaust wrote:The main thing I want is fast reliable operation of bolt and magazine.


I was just clearing some stuff off my phone and found a video that reminded me of your question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiX4Z9N_9k8
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Re: Ruger American Ranch rifle in 223

Post by in2anity » 11 Apr 2017, 12:54 pm

Mitch wrote:Brass for 300blk is under $50/100 brand new ADI.

Costs should be no more then approx $0.70/shot including the cost of brass.


Gas-checked cast lead over Trail Boss is going to be a helluva lot cheaper than that, irrespective of whether it's blk or 308. Move into medium burns towards 2000fps for a little more performance but still a fraction of the cost.
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Re: Ruger American Ranch rifle in 223

Post by bladeracer » 11 Apr 2017, 4:23 pm

in2anity wrote:Gas-checked cast lead over Trail Boss is going to be a helluva lot cheaper than that, irrespective of whether it's blk or 308. Move into medium burns towards 2000fps for a little more performance but still a fraction of the cost.



Yep, lead is awesome.
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