CZ and Custom Chassis to suit SA mauser

[bladeracer]

Fair call, i gain comfort in the higher CIP chamber rating...i hope it may never be an issue.

If you're loading so hot that it would matter, I would expect your brass is probably coming apart with every shot anyway

[PoorShot300]

Fair call, i gain comfort in the higher CIP chamber rating...i hope it may never be an issue.

If you're loading so hot that it would matter, I would expect your brass is probably coming apart with every shot anyway

For the loads, i don't think there's enough case capacity either lol... i'm of the ...'better to have and not need'.. family of thinking...
It really is irrelevant in the scheme of things i agree, just my reading on mini actions puts CZ above, or at minimum equal to, most available,...being EU built rather than US, or Aus built, that was just an added, albeit unnecessary, bonus. I see the Wylde wildcat also promotes it's 5.56 capability, but that's likely due to use in semi auto/auto firearms...

[Gwion]

So you aren't wanting to mag feed 80gn bullets?

[PoorShot300]

So you aren't wanting to mag feed 80gn bullets?

The CZ 527 does come with a 5x shot mag, and there is a mag block also available for single feed. As this will likely do most service off a rest, i don't see that as an issue.

I have read of 80g being box fed on the US site, it can be done if your happy to sacrifice velocity, and a tweak on the feed ramp from what i read...?

[Gwion]

Seems counter productive to go a fast twist for long bullets and then not be able to push them fast enough to take advantage of them at longer ranges. But you know, it's your time, money and rifle.

Is the controlled feed a main reason why you want the 527?

[PoorShot300]

Seems counter productive to go a fast twist for long bullets and then not be able to push them fast enough to take advantage of them at longer ranges. But you know, it's your time, money and rifle.

I understand that, and as noted, my initial interest was in the 1:8 twist and 82g...or 'there-abouts'...the rifle will choose what it likes...if that's not maximum, i can work with what it likes best, or will 'limit' me to loading...it is what it is, and i will be happy with any limits it presents.

Is the controlled feed a main reason why you want the 527?

Essentially...and as I can't afford to 'comfortably' feed >.22 cal, a full size sporterised 98 is out of the question, and the 527 fits the bill....

Id have an M03 in a heartbeat, but that will remain my 'Lotto' rifle....

[PoorShot300]

It appears XLR at least cater to the CZ per;.. https://forum.snipershide.com/forum/sni ... for-cz-550

Admittedly, it is for the LA's but it's a glimmer...

Otherwise i may have to do the same as the last post in this... https://forum.snipershide.com/forum/sni ... cs-223-mag

More research underway.

Cheers

[Gwion]

You will be fine to single feed for target and load to any length you like. Maybe you can get your smith to enlarge the feed port to accomodate AI max mag length. Only concern is if that will compromise the rigidity of the action but it shouldn't require too much material removal.

Still, I'd email Montana and see what the cost on a 223 bolt face would be.

[PoorShot300]

You will be fine to single feed for target and load to any length you like. Maybe you can get your smith to enlarge the feed port to accomodate AI max mag length. Only concern is if that will compromise the rigidity of the action but it shouldn't require too much material removal.

Still, I'd email Montana and see what the cost on a 223 bolt face would be.

All just early days yet... i will look about more at platforms, just thought i might have got more recommendations from 'builders' who have been through the process (CZ or otherwise)....as mentioned, it's looking like it will be on the Boyd's stock to begin with and take it from there...

Thanks for presenting some thoughtful, and thought provoking, points of view and suggestions...

Gypsy

[Gwion]

No worries. I also have s build on hold using th mini-Mauser (though mine is the Zastava version) so it peaked my interest. Good luck with it!

[PoorShot300]

No worries. I also have s build on hold using th mini-Mauser (though mine is the Zastava version) so it peaked my interest. Good luck with it!

Thanks Gwion,... the Z's were on the initial list of contenders as well;;;

What sort of build are you doing?,..and do the Z's have the same issues as the CZ where 'feeding' is concerned? (i imagine so...)

I look forward to reading your experience & journey with it.

Cheers

[Gwion]

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4297
All details of my build are in that linkedthread. Cash and supplier issues have the project stalled for the last while.

The Zastava is rather rough build and the internal mag is very short.

[PoorShot300]

https://enoughgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4297
All details of my build are in that linkedthread. Cash and supplier issues have the project stalled for the last while.

The Zastava is rather rough build and the internal mag is very short.

Would i be correct in that some have built custom rigs off Z's and use AI mags?

I will have a read of your thread...thanks.

[Gwion]

I couldn't answer that question. I think there would be quite a bit of mucking around to make AI mags work on such a short action in as far as setting up a chassis system. Would definitely be a custom job and probably expensive due to stuff around tax. I was looking at a detachable mag option but the project has dragged on so long I'd have to do some real digging to find the suggested platform but that also required some skilled customising.


I chose the mini Mauser because it is the shortest action available for a repeater and others who have built 223 shorts have had issues feeding from ordinary short action platforms and Tikkas, etc.. If I was going your path I would definitely take the easier road of a standardised action to drop into a chassis and have a mag system that just works without the screw around factor. Would be interested to know if Montana would do a custom 223rem bolt face for you.

[PoorShot300]

I had actually read yours before i started mine...

One ?.... i see you just bought the bare action yes?,.. how did you go about that (without going through the whole thread if you mention it) and did you get it local?

I might get in touch with Winchester (CZ Importers) and see if i can just get an action that way...

Sorry yours has taken so long, you must be really frustrated with it all by now?...

I may have been confused/incorrect about the Z and AI mags... it does sound like a lot of jigging about.

Cheers

[PoorShot300]

Bladeracer,... just regarding the LSS chassis, do you find the width of the fore-end wide enough for 'bag' work off a bench, or are they better off the pod?

With Thanks

[Gwion]

Zastava sell the action alone. Couldn't tell you if CZ do the same thing or not but easy to ask the importers.

I'm kind'a resigned to this taking quite some time because my cash flow is spread pretty thin across a lot of more important projects.

[PoorShot300]

I hear you Gwion, i have other hobbies and they all get in the way of each other for my hobby funds...

This is looking encouraging... http://masterpiecearms.com/shop/mpa-ba- ... uth-model/

Maybe a pretty Orange or Red one will help me skip a bullet in the eyes of the 'big black gun brigade'...

[Gwion]

Looks interesting but still NQR for what you want, being a rimfire chassis. Worth a chat with them, though, to see what they can do.

I'm happy enough to keep shooting the Zasty as a 223rem for the time being. It got me into 3rd for our ANZAC shoot and convincingly achieved tightest group for the day (10 rounds, single feed, within 2 mins at 300yds). Still, I am looking forward to some spare cash to finish the 223mcshort. Also trying to save for a GRS stock for my 7mm08.

[bladeracer]

Bladeracer,... just regarding the LSS chassis, do you find the width of the fore-end wide enough for 'bag' work off a bench, or are they better off the pod?

With Thanks

I use both. A bag at the bench when doing load development, the bipod for field work. It also works fine when naked or with various foregrips.

[Gwion]

Doesn't that get chilly at this time of year!??!

[bladeracer]

Doesn't that get chilly at this time of year!??!

At this time of year it's chilly regardless of what I'm wearing

It's a good point though, aluminium chassis are damned cold in the winter and damned hot in the summer!

[PoorShot300]

Looks interesting but still NQR for what you want, being a rimfire chassis. Worth a chat with them, though, to see what they can do.
..i posted a response but it didn't show. Yeah i know it's for the rimmy's, but at least there is an association there with CZ, and their blurb reveals they are adding different platforms in the future...

I'm happy enough to keep shooting the Zasty as a 223rem for the time being. It got me into 3rd for our ANZAC shoot and convincingly achieved tightest group for the day (10 rounds, single feed, within 2 mins at 300yds). Still, I am looking forward to some spare cash to finish the 223mcshort. Also trying to save for a GRS stock for my 7mm08.

Good job placing out of what i imagine was a large field...beyond what i'm ever likely to achieve.

[Gwion]

Nah. Only a small club. We had 10 shooters on the day.

[PoorShot300]

I use both. A bag at the bench when doing load development, the bipod for field work. It also works fine when naked or with various foregrips.

Thanks for that assessment...it's hard to tell from the site pics, and the new model looks more beefy and suited to the bench.
Wish manufacturers would put dimensions up... but i guess they want to avoid 'copies' as much as possible..

[PoorShot300]

After further consideration, i am relinquishing the idea of this platform....either too hard or too $$$$ so off to plan B.

I will leave this open in case future options become available.

Now i just need to find a new home for my .300RUM + Ammo......

Any takers?

Cheers

[bladeracer]

After further consideration, i am relinquishing the idea of this platform....either too hard or too $$$$ so off to plan B.

I will leave this open in case future options become available.

Now i just need to find a new home for my .300RUM + Ammo......

Any takers?

Cheers

What rifle is it?
Photos would help.

[PoorShot300]

bladeracer... It;s an SPS, and i'm cautious to go any further as it may appear i am advertising, which not being a Lic dealer, would be breaking the Vic laws ....but i'm sure genuinely interested parties could find a way to get in touch...

sungazer... i prefer the more 'modular' style as i already have two timber/laminate stocks and after a different look. Thanks for the suggestion though.

*EDIT*... meant for Gwion, not me.

[Gwion]

Looks interesting but still NQR for what you want, being a rimfire chassis. Worth a chat with them, though, to see what they can do.

I'm happy enough to keep shooting the Zasty as a 223rem for the time being. It got me into 3rd for our ANZAC shoot and convincingly achieved tightest group for the day (10 rounds, single feed, within 2 mins at 300yds). Still, I am looking forward to some spare cash to finish the 223mcshort. Also trying to save for a GRS stock for my 7mm08.

Have you tried a GRS Stock? The Grip is at a bit of an angle. It didn't bother me but a lot of people either or love them or hate them. I gave them a miss on the model I was looking at for other fitment reasons. A Stock can get really personal

I haven't tried one as yet but a guy at the club is getting one soon. The angle pistol grip is actually part of the attraction, it seems to make a lot of sense ergonomically. It you saw the stock on my rifle now, you would understand why I want a new one so badly!

[PoorShot300]

bladeracer.... could i impose upon you to measure the OAL on one of your 'folder' chassis when the stock is in folded position?

With Thanks