Great priced Howa .222

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[Oldbloke]

Says. 222

[rsj223]

Says. 222

Bugger, should look a bit better next time

[bigfellascott]

Nothin wrong with .222

+1 if I didn't already have a Howa 222 I'd buy this for that Price!

[Oldbloke]

Nothin wrong with .222

+1 if I didn't already have a Howa 222 I'd buy this for that Price!

Same here.

[superdave]

Is 222 making a comeback in Oz?. I thought it was on the way out. Nothing wrong with it as a cartridge of course, just that it seems to be overshadowed by 223 nowadays.

[<<Genesis93>>]

Owen is selling Howe 308s for $459!

[TBJ]

I would probably buy if I hadn't just bought a new rifle, the howa actions are an excellent gun for the money however and from what ive seen can be very accurate, in regards to the .222 compared to .223 I've shot both and there really is not much of a difference only thing is .222 ammo is a bit more expensive, but it is becoming a lot more popular in the past year or so, I say at that price get the .222 if you've not found a .223 at the same price.

[Supaduke]

Being a mini action, unless it's been custom chambered, I would say it's a misprint. Howa don't make .222rem anymore.

[Gwion]

The mini is in both 222 & 223:
http://www.legacysports.com/catalog/how ... ion-rifle/

[Supaduke]

I stand well and truly corrected. Couldn't find one mention of .222rem on the Howa site.

[Gwion]

Howa site also doesn't mention the mini action, either. Bit weird but at least their distributors have some clue what's going on.

[RoginaJack]

yes, the .222Rem is a great rifle BUT 223 ammo is cheaper and I think more readily obtainable in the back blocks.

[bigfellascott]

yes, the .222Rem is a great rifle BUT 223 ammo is cheaper and I think more readily obtainable in the back blocks.

So not important if you are organised or reload and on top of that most farmers have a 222 floating around somewhere (was the go too cal in the day for farmers and knowing them it still is).

[brett1868]

As bigfella said, the 222 was very popular with the farming folk and my cousin still has a couple on the farm. I save any 222 brass I come across for him as his is getting way past its use by date. Not sure why it fell out of favour along with the 22 Hornet as both were more then capable of dispatching varmints.

[bigfellascott]

As bigfella said, the 222 was very popular with the farming folk and my cousin still has a couple on the farm. I save any 222 brass I come across for him as his is getting way past its use by date. Not sure why it fell out of favour along with the 22 Hornet as both were more then capable of dispatching varmints.

I think it's a bit of people want the latest and greatest (223) in this case and the yanks love their military hardware and of course the 223 is based off the 5.56mm - just part of the natural progression of shooting I guess, one day something will take over the 223 and then something will take over that too (people love to convince others they need the latest and greatest because it does it better) reality is the stuff they have gets the job done and lobbing something slightly faster doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference if you use it right, dead is dead at the end of the day (coming from a hunting perspective here) not paper poking as such.

Own 222's and 223's - can't say one is less lethal than the other if used correctly and I certainly wouldn't sell a 222 to buy a 223

[happyhunter]

222 ammo, projectiles and cases are same price as 223 ammo and components. You could get the mini action Howa in 222 for sale for under 500 bucks months back. Why the hell wouldn't you buy one?

[Oldbloke]

With a difference of about 200 fps between them, I don't think the foxes will notice the difference.

I would snap it up if I was looking for a fox rifle. But I have a 223.

[duncan61]

I bought a brand new .222 Ruger S/S and I still love it

[RoginaJack]

Hey, chill out boys and girls! Don't get me wrong, the 222Rem was a great cartridge. It was the go to round for many Pro. roos shooters and I culled many roos and foxes with it in Western NSW too. So was the 222Rem Mag BUT along came the 223.
To buy, 222 brass is dearer than 223, at least around this area.

[Gwion]

Wonder what twist rate they put on the 222.....

[bigfellascott]

Wonder what twist rate they put on the 222.....

I'd imagine 1in14.

[bigfellascott]

Hey, chill out boys and girls! Don't get me wrong, the 222Rem was a great cartridge. It was the go to round for many Pro. roos shooters and I culled many roos and foxes with it in Western NSW too. So was the 222Rem Mag BUT along came the 223.
To buy, 222 brass is dearer than 223, at least around this area.

Yeah they were a great little roo cartridge alright, goes well on foxes too and great fun on wabbits but I do prefer the 204 over the 222 and 223 - it's just a lazer beam and drops with great bang flop moments.

[RoginaJack]

Haven't had anything to do with this new fangled 204 bigfellascott, but hear it shoots as flat as a billiard table.

When fox skins were worth a shilling or two a mate of mine used a 17 Rem Mag, went off like a 25 pounder, the fox was dead before ya pulled the trigger, unless the little pill hit a blade of grass or a bush moth in the spotlight and poof! But what happened to it?

Just love progress...

[bigfellascott]

Haven't had anything to do with this new fangled 204 bigfellascott, but hear it shoots as flat as a billiard table.

When fox skins were worth a shilling or two a mate of mine used a 17 Rem Mag, went off like a 25 pounder, the fox was dead before ya pulled the trigger, unless the little pill hit a blade of grass or a bush moth in the spotlight and poof! But what happened to it?

Just love progress...

Yeah if fox skins were worth anything I would definitely be running a 17rem, the 204 can be hard on skins depending on the projie you run in em.

All I can say is the 204 is a great little cal for reaching way out yonder because of the flat trajectory.

[Gwion]

Wonder what twist rate they put on the 222.....

I'd imagine 1in14.

Traditionally, yes but I believe modern 222 are often barrelled with a 1:12 twist.

[duncan61]

Thompson/Center Carbine and Rifle is 1.12

[bigfellascott]

Just had a look and it's as I thought a 1in14" twist.

http://www.legacysports.com/viewcatalog ... pdf#page=3

[duncan61]

My Ruger is 1.14 with a 22 inch barrel and I ran it in with 60 rds of 50gr factory ballistic tips.The first ammo I made for it were 52 gr target bullets and they were very accurate however sometimes they would drop the roo but it would get up as the bullet was going through the nasal cavity.Now I load 50gr PSP Remington and they blow up real good.I believe that when the 223 was developed for the Military there was a requirement to push heavier pills so a faster twist rate would be needed.

[Gwion]

Ooh... That makes me wish I had a spare $500.