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Pythonkeeper wrote:Here's a link that I just came across while researching something else. http://youtu.be/jcRE5j8e-vw
No1Mk3 wrote:G'fday SHV,
If you want to reload jacketed projectiles for your rifle, Hornady 150g 303 projectiles are .3105" diameter and perfect for the Russian calibres. I load them in 7.62x54R for the Nagant. I have been thinking of a short rifle in this calibre, due to access to 1000's of rounds of leftover Norinco ammo, and this one looks very good. Just need a Howa owner to post his for comparison, Cheers.
Milsurp98 wrote:No1Mk3 wrote:G'fday SHV,
If you want to reload jacketed projectiles for your rifle, Hornady 150g 303 projectiles are .3105" diameter and perfect for the Russian calibres. I load them in 7.62x54R for the Nagant. I have been thinking of a short rifle in this calibre, due to access to 1000's of rounds of leftover Norinco ammo, and this one looks very good. Just need a Howa owner to post his for comparison, Cheers.
If you intend to shoot mil surp 7.62x39 ammo then the CZ is actually designed for it more so than commercial brass. The CZ web site even actually states that commercial brass may have troubles in the CZ. Pretty much the reason I bought a Howa Mini 20" varmint over the CZ. I have no intentions of firing mil surp or lead projectiles in my 7.62x39.
PPU factory ammo works great in my Howa. And at $79/100 it is cheaper than the brass lol. PPU brass reloads fine. I am on my 3rd loading for some, but have only neck sized so far. Brass is still under max length.
A great projectile is the Australian made "The Bullet Factory" .311 130gr HP. Excellent groups out of the Howa Mini. Their .311 150gr HP work great in my 7.62x54R Nagant M44 as well.
Hornady make the 123gr SST that shoots great also.
Not sure why anyone would want to shoot a 150gr out of the little 7.62x39. The 123-130gr is all that's needed.
SHV wrote:found this, looks like the Berrys not bad
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?t ... ff.583169/
SHV wrote:found this, looks like the Berrys not bad
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?t ... ff.583169/
Milsurp98 wrote:Tested some of the Bullet Factory .311 150gr HP in my 7.62x54R M44 Nagant today. Very impressed
Great grouping for open sights.
Great results in the Chrony.
Will be sticking with these Bullet factory projectiles in my 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R.
Will order some .308 150gr HP to try in my 308 (7.62x51) Israeli Mauser 98.
Milsurp98 wrote:SHV wrote:found this, looks like the Berrys not bad
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?t ... ff.583169/
Check the Berry's web site. https://www.berrysmfg.com/item/bp-762x39-312-123gr-sp
They state that their 123gr plated projectile is only rated for speeds up to 1900 fps. My manuals list minimum loads around 2170 fps for the 123-125gr. So Berry's needs some magical load to produce these reduced velocities. Thinking the only safe way would be something like trail boss. I have no experience with trail boss as i do not load reduced loads.
I am very cautious of playing with minimum loads, let alone trying to load less than minimum to stay around Berry's recommended 1900 fps.
I would steer clear of Berry's. And would rather try HRBC cast projectiles if I wanted to try cast. Gas checked and driving them at more suitable velocities.
I have loaded HRBC cast projectiles in some of my mil surps: 303, 308, 30-06, 7.62x54R, All gas checked, and all at normal velocities. They all worked good except some 303's. Only successful in about 2 of the 8 x 303's i tried. Some of these old clackers have terrible over bored barrels and only produced big clouds of smoke and 2 meter groups lol.
Have since given up on cast projectiles and only shoot jacketed projectiles now. Not worth all the extra hassle loading them.
Only cast projectiles i use now are in the 44 mag lever action where you can drive them full speed without gas checking the. Great cheap fun.
in2anity wrote:Milsurp98 wrote:Tested some of the Bullet Factory .311 150gr HP in my 7.62x54R M44 Nagant today. Very impressed
Great grouping for open sights.
Great results in the Chrony.
Will be sticking with these Bullet factory projectiles in my 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R.
Will order some .308 150gr HP to try in my 308 (7.62x51) Israeli Mauser 98.
What distance was that target at?
Milsurp98 wrote:If you intend to shoot mil surp 7.62x39 ammo then the CZ is actually designed for it more so than commercial brass. The CZ web site even actually states that commercial brass may have troubles in the CZ. Pretty much the reason I bought a Howa Mini 20" varmint over the CZ. I have no intentions of firing mil surp or lead projectiles in my 7.62x39.
Milsurp98 wrote:Straight from the CZ web site: http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-carbine-223-rem/
Built to CIP specifications, our 7.62×39 chambers are ideal for shooting steel-cased surplus ammo. Designed to shoot .311 bullets, some American brass ammo may not perform as well as the imported steel-cased variety because of SAAMI brass dimensions and varying bullet diameters.
Our .223s will happily eat 5.56, since CIP doesn’t differentiate between the two cartridges and just has the higher pressure as its standard. So our .223s will shoot everything from the cheapest Russian steel to match .223 brass ammo.