What is this massive rifle?

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Re: What is this massive rifle?

Post by disko » 16 Dec 2013, 11:06 am

Warrigul wrote:40-80 birds in one shot apparently, depending on how many were sitting and how well it was aimed and loaded.


Geez you'd be pretty chuffed with yourself if you knocked over 80 birds in one shot :D
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Re: What is this massive rifle?

Post by jeebo » 16 Dec 2013, 5:35 pm

disko wrote:Geez you'd be pretty chuffed with yourself if you knocked over 80 birds in one shot :D


A months worth of hunting with one pull of the trigger :D
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Re: What is this massive rifle?

Post by tripletwo » 17 Dec 2013, 12:43 pm

jeebo wrote:A months worth of hunting with one pull of the trigger :D


Wish I could do my shopping that way :D

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Post by feedr » 17 Dec 2013, 12:50 pm

They need delivery cannons at supermarkets. You just give them the co-ordinates of your house and they key it in, stick all your food in a rubber ball and launch it into your back yard for you to collect :D
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Post by Atter » 17 Dec 2013, 12:51 pm

feedr wrote:stick all your food in a rubber ball and launch it...


Last time I checked, rubber balls bounce... I'm seeing some logistics problems here :P
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Post by Berper » 17 Dec 2013, 12:58 pm

Atter wrote:Last time I checked, rubber balls bounce... I'm seeing some logistics problems here :P


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Post by Harts » 17 Dec 2013, 1:42 pm

Some sort of catchers net is in order perhaps...
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Post by headspace » 21 Dec 2013, 9:30 am

Remember men, this thing would have been black powder. Can you imagine the cloud of smoke after the shot. It would have taken half the day just to find all the birds. These days we'd probably need counselling after that sort of slaughter. Well some of us would.
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Post by Sender » 21 Dec 2013, 3:29 pm

headspace wrote:Remember men, this thing would have been black powder. Can you imagine the cloud of smoke after the shot. It would have taken half the day just to find all the birds.


I looooooove the smell of black powder in the mornings!
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Post by Die Judicii » 10 Oct 2016, 12:27 am

I think it is what used to be called a "punt gun" or,,,,,, a Great Wall of China Defence gun.

I remember they did feature an article about punt guns in an early 1960s issue of Outdoors Magazine.
They had illustrations of punts armed with smaller diameter barrels,,,,, but 10 - 15 of them side by side.
They said that a cord was looped through the triggers and was held by the operators teeth.
He would lay behind and paddle with hands and line the bow of the punt up with a flock on the water,, then jerk the cord back to fire.

Bloody devastating effect.

As a point of interest, the picture at the head of this thread is also very similar to the "Great wall of China" defence gun.
There is one on display in the Canberra War Memorial.
It would take two people to fire it (just like in the picture), and the one at the recoil end usually died as a result.
The plaque describing the guns origin/use etc says that they (chinese) considered it an honor to fire the gun.
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Post by deadkitty » 10 Oct 2016, 6:39 am

Punt gun, my grandfather used to use one in Ireland (circa 1920-1930's ) and my grand mother hated it because he used to pinch cutlery (her's ) to add to his mix of projectiles. Cheers
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Re: What is this massive rifle?

Post by duncan61 » 17 Oct 2016, 12:24 am

I believe a 12g is twelve shots to the pound on average.That monster is a 4g so quarter a pound of shot when you let it go.They were mostly mounted and pulled with a cord on a small rowing boat.They were banned when some gentleman bragged about getting 138 ducks in one go and it was considered unsporting by the gentry.You needed to be wealthy and landed to have one so most people would have agreed.
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Re: What is this massive rifle?

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 18 Oct 2016, 7:18 pm

The number represents the reciprocal of the fraction of a pound that a single lead ball (sphere) that is sized per the bore would weigh.

12g =1/12 pound lead ball = 0.73inch ball = 18.5mm lead ball
10g = 1/10 lb = 0.78inch = 19.7mm
8g = 1/8 lb = 0.84inch = 21.2mm
4g = 1/4 lb = 1.05inch = 26.7mm
2g = 1/2 lb = 1.33inch = 33.7mm
1g = 1 lb = 1.67inch = 42.4mm
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Re: What is this massive rifle?

Post by duncan61 » 18 Oct 2016, 8:47 pm

Thank you for that I always wanted the true scaling
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Re: What is this massive rifle?

Post by brett1868 » 18 Oct 2016, 9:16 pm

<<Genesis93>> wrote:The number represents the reciprocal of the fraction of a pound that a single lead ball (sphere) that is sized per the bore would weigh.

12g =1/12 pound lead ball = 0.73inch ball = 18.5mm lead ball
10g = 1/10 lb = 0.78inch = 19.7mm
8g = 1/8 lb = 0.84inch = 21.2mm
4g = 1/4 lb = 1.05inch = 26.7mm
2g = 1/2 lb = 1.33inch = 33.7mm
1g = 1 lb = 1.67inch = 42.4mm


Cool, once again I've learnt something from you :)

Shot size, I was told it was the number of pellets that would fit into the diameter of the bore. For example No.8 shot in 12ga would be 8 pellets to the diameter, is this true or make sense?
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Re: What is this massive rifle?

Post by <<Genesis93>> » 19 Oct 2016, 8:36 am

brett1868 wrote:
<<Genesis93>> wrote:The number represents the reciprocal of the fraction of a pound that a single lead ball (sphere) that is sized per the bore would weigh.

12g =1/12 pound lead ball = 0.73inch ball = 18.5mm lead ball
10g = 1/10 lb = 0.78inch = 19.7mm
8g = 1/8 lb = 0.84inch = 21.2mm
4g = 1/4 lb = 1.05inch = 26.7mm
2g = 1/2 lb = 1.33inch = 33.7mm
1g = 1 lb = 1.67inch = 42.4mm


Cool, once again I've learnt something from you :)

Shot size, I was told it was the number of pellets that would fit into the diameter of the bore. For example No.8 shot in 12ga would be 8 pellets to the diameter, is this true or make sense?


Well... thats all the learning I gots to give you :lol: ... I know where to go when I take up 50cal shootin though..

The sizing of shot is generally in hundredth of an inch increments or multiples, so the shot to the bore thing doesnt work, perhaps the ratio works for one particular size as a coincidink..

Note there are several sizing schemes, some overlap, US, UK, Euro, Ital, Aus... perhaps a few more too :crazy:

For anyone wondering what the size of the hole at the end corresponds to, (considering the choke is perhaps not the bore size);

Gauge number (using inch) = 4.66 [divide by] diameter cubed


{to go the other way, diameter from Gauge, d = (third root of ) 4.66/g}

and for those not as au fait with old timer measurements;

Gauge number (using cm) = 76.39 [divide by] diameter cubed

{to go the other way, diameter from Gauge, d = (third root of ) 76.39/g}

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