PCP rifle

[pomemax]

cheap enough for a 50 cal pcp
http://www.ausarms.com.au/links/categor ... ubcat_id=4

[Strikey]

Most if not all the pellets you mentioned I would consider good for melting down to make sinkers, they probably cost the same as a quality pellet such as the H&N's or JSB's.The FTT's are 8•64grn ( I'm having a cuppa, couldn't be bothered to go have a look and check,lol ), headsize is 4•50, JSB Exacts are slightly lighter I think at 8•44grns but their headsize is 4•52 and my BSA doesn't like them, both these brands make 10•6ish grn pellets also which will bring the velocity down and slightly lower the noise. Contact ACME Firearms for H&N pellets or Potters Target Firearms for JSB pellets

[Gamerancher]

Hey Strikey, Truey has one of the Steyr's and couldn't believe how accurate it was. Wouldn't stop going on and on about what a tack driver it was, you know how he is. Anyway, some time down the track it's accuracy turns to sh!t, he can't work out what's gone wrong. Someone mentions that perhaps the barrel is fouled, so he sets about cleaning it. Reckons he dragged enough lead out to make a bag full of sinkers.
Clean barrel = accuracy back. He's happy again, but, now we have to listen to the "lead in the Steyr" story over and over again.

[Strikey]

Hey Strikey, Truey has one of the Steyr's and couldn't believe how accurate it was. Wouldn't stop going on and on about what a tack driver it was, you know how he is. Anyway, some time down the track it's accuracy turns to sh!t, he can't work out what's gone wrong. Someone mentions that perhaps the barrel is fouled, so he sets about cleaning it. Reckons he dragged enough lead out to make a bag full of sinkers.
Clean barrel = accuracy back. He's happy again, but, now we have to listen to the "lead in the Steyr" story over and over again.

Hahaha, as if Dooga needs another story,lol, but I think the Steyr's are susceptible to fouling as I think they have some type of coating in the barrel, a bit like chrome but not the same, I know my FX smooth twist barrels like to be clean but my Daystate's LW barrel just keeps shooting, I hope Dooga didn't get carried away scrubbing that barrel

[Gamerancher]

Had Noggin visit here yesterday till after midnight. He works for a family in town driving trucks. I got him a start there last year for harvest and he stayed on.
He came out to have a few shots out of my Creedmoor, he's thinking of building one.

[Dunxy]

Most if not all the pellets you mentioned I would consider good for melting down to make sinkers, they probably cost the same as a quality pellet such as the H&N's or JSB's.The FTT's are 8•64grn ( I'm having a cuppa, couldn't be bothered to go have a look and check,lol ), headsize is 4•50, JSB Exacts are slightly lighter I think at 8•44grns but their headsize is 4•52 and my BSA doesn't like them, both these brands make 10•6ish grn pellets also which will bring the velocity down and slightly lower the noise. Contact ACME Firearms for H&N pellets or Potters Target Firearms for JSB pellets

I haven't found any other ones yet, ive bought the best that ive come across.The stoegers ive been nothing but impressed with but im not about to just stop and not try more, remember i only picked up my rifle a few days ago so its not like ive had a lot of time to find slugs Life gets in the way sometimes... Cost is never a factor when im purchasing slugs, just what ive been able to get. In regards to the H&N and JSB i can source them myself (wholesale Perks of my current job ) but i need to work out what i want and do a decent order from supplier,so this is why im trying to research as much as i can, im not going to order small volume because i will get raped by shipping and while we have an account we don't stock products on shelf so im ordering just for myself unfortunatly.

So lets talk H&N for starters, i have available 11 different types, which ones would you recommend precisely? Have you tried any of the ones like "magnum rabbit II" , "sniper magnum"or the piledriver? Which particular pattern/s would you think best for close range small game? Obviously the waddcutters the pick for punching paper yeah?

I will also order some JSB as well.

So do you have an idea about what weight to stay above to keep it subsonic?

[Strikey]

Had Noggin visit here yesterday till after midnight. He works for a Family in town driving trucks. I got him a start there last year for harvest and he stayed on.
He came out to have a few shots out of my Creedmore, he's thinking of building one.

Was wondering where Noggin got to but now you are converting him to a latte sipping Creedmore shooter, he needs a proper girls gun, something in 25 cal perhaps,lol

Most if not all the pellets you mentioned I would consider good for melting down to make sinkers, they probably cost the same as a quality pellet such as the H&N's or JSB's.The FTT's are 8•64grn ( I'm having a cuppa, couldn't be bothered to go have a look and check,lol ), headsize is 4•50, JSB Exacts are slightly lighter I think at 8•44grns but their headsize is 4•52 and my BSA doesn't like them, both these brands make 10•6ish grn pellets also which will bring the velocity down and slightly lower the noise. Contact ACME Firearms for H&N pellets or Potters Target Firearms for JSB pellets

I haven't found any other ones yet, ive bought the best that ive come across.The stoegers ive been nothing but impressed with but im not about to just stop and not try more, remember i only picked up my rifle a few days ago so its not like ive had a lot of time to find slugs Life gets in the way sometimes... Cost is never a factor when im purchasing slugs, just what ive been able to get. In regards to the H&N and JSB i can source them myself (wholesale Perks of my current job ) but i need to work out what i want and do a decent order from supplier,so this is why im trying to research as much as i can, im not going to order small volume because i will get raped by shipping and while we have an account we don't stock products on shelf so im ordering just for myself unfortunatly.

So lets talk H&N for starters, i have available 11 different types, which ones would you recommend precisely? Have you tried any of the ones like "magnum rabbit II" , "sniper magnum"or the piledriver? Which particular pattern/s would you think best for close range small game? Obviously the waddcutters the pick for punching paper yeah?

I will also order some JSB as well.

So do you have an idea about what weight to stay above to keep it subsonic?

Forget about the Rabbit Magnum, piledrivers etc, don't know of anyone being able to get decent accuracy with them, wadcutters are usually designed for 10m guns and air pistols, as in low power airguns not much good past 10-15m, as with every rifle buy one tin of the type of pellets you might like to try, then see if your air rifle will group half decently with one of those types then try some of the same in a different headsize, H&N have a selection of varying sizes,JSB's in this country unfortunately only come in the one headsize for each calibre. It may be a long exercise but saves buying a ****** of pellets only to find you can't hit a rabbits head at 40m, personally I just stick with the diabolo shape pellets and the rabbits seem to fall over dead, don't concern yourself with fancy pellets, the one that shoots accurately is what you need and I doubt very much if your rifle will shoot anything supersonic

[bladeracer]

cheap enough for a 50 cal pcp
http://www.ausarms.com.au/links/categor ... ubcat_id=4

Those sub-$1000 rifles look like fun. I'm going to have to do some research.
In powder rifles we know there's a sweet spot at 6-7mm and .338-.375" - is there a sweet spot in air rifle calibers? When I was a youngster I shot air rifles competitively and we always looked at .177 for accuracy, .22 was for energy rather than accuracy.

I see they sell 9mm pellets for $10/46, dearer than a lot of .22LR ammo.

[Dunxy]

Had Noggin visit here yesterday till after midnight. He works for a Family in town driving trucks. I got him a start there last year for harvest and he stayed on.
He came out to have a few shots out of my Creedmore, he's thinking of building one.

Was wondering where Noggin got to but now you are converting him to a latte sipping Creedmore shooter, he needs a proper girls gun, something in 25 cal perhaps,lol

Most if not all the pellets you mentioned I would consider good for melting down to make sinkers, they probably cost the same as a quality pellet such as the H&N's or JSB's.The FTT's are 8•64grn ( I'm having a cuppa, couldn't be bothered to go have a look and check,lol ), headsize is 4•50, JSB Exacts are slightly lighter I think at 8•44grns but their headsize is 4•52 and my BSA doesn't like them, both these brands make 10•6ish grn pellets also which will bring the velocity down and slightly lower the noise. Contact ACME Firearms for H&N pellets or Potters Target Firearms for JSB pellets

I haven't found any other ones yet, ive bought the best that ive come across.The stoegers ive been nothing but impressed with but im not about to just stop and not try more, remember i only picked up my rifle a few days ago so its not like ive had a lot of time to find slugs Life gets in the way sometimes... Cost is never a factor when im purchasing slugs, just what ive been able to get. In regards to the H&N and JSB i can source them myself (wholesale Perks of my current job ) but i need to work out what i want and do a decent order from supplier,so this is why im trying to research as much as i can, im not going to order small volume because i will get raped by shipping and while we have an account we don't stock products on shelf so im ordering just for myself unfortunatly.

So lets talk H&N for starters, i have available 11 different types, which ones would you recommend precisely? Have you tried any of the ones like "magnum rabbit II" , "sniper magnum"or the piledriver? Which particular pattern/s would you think best for close range small game? Obviously the waddcutters the pick for punching paper yeah?

I will also order some JSB as well.

So do you have an idea about what weight to stay above to keep it subsonic?

Forget about the Rabbit Magnum, piledrivers etc, don't know of anyone being able to get decent accuracy with them, wadcutters are usually designed for 10m guns and air pistols, as in low power airguns not much good past 10-15m, as with every rifle buy one tin of the type of pellets you might like to try, then see if your air rifle will group half decently with one of those types then try some of the same in a different headsize, H&N have a selection of varying sizes,JSB's in this country unfortunately only come in the one headsize for each calibre. It may be a long exercise but saves buying a ****** of pellets only to find you can't hit a rabbits head at 40m, personally I just stick with the diabolo shape pellets and the rabbits seem to fall over dead, don't concern yourself with fancy pellets, the one that shoots accurately is what you need and I doubt very much if your rifle will shoot anything supersonic

Cool thanks for all the help it is greatly appreciated to get some first hand knowledge, im not going after bunnys man, just pest birds(got 4 pigeons for a mate yesterday on his farm, 2 in one shot with those 10+grain gamo slug, a couple of miners and doves have also fallen prey already as well),rats,field targets and paper! 22lr with subs be for bunnies So your saying i should be safe with any lead pellet without cracking sound barrier? So for the birds and such a dome head diablo would be pellet of choice? I know the wad cutters are crap for long range, that being said i got a 1/3" group @ 30ish metres with the stoegers( pic on my phone and im on a work computer) and have zero dramas consistently hitting kill zone on field target at same range, i actually got kinda bored and picked up the old gecado springer with iron sights because it was not a challenge with the gamo.
If i was after larger stuff i sure would have minimum .22 or preferably a .25 not the .177! Larger calibers for larger stuff are down the track! I didn't have a .177 (the gecado is my mates and will be returned this week, think i need a break barrel as well, maybe a .22! I enjoy the challenge of the springers recoil+iron sights,before this year id only ever taken a couple of shots of rifles with scopes) so i got it first because it is what i will use predominately.

Got any tips to improve trigger? A very experienced mate picked it up just before and said it was disgusting. I haven't tried adjusting it yet, is it same as BSA?

GREAT to see some more interest on here! Im loving the Gamo so far and for the money it is indeed great value! It was 850ish with bag,rests and a hand pump that they flog for $350! Depending on what caliber my mate chooses(either .25 or a .50) I would consider purchasing one on .25 if my mate goes for the 50, otherwise ill end up with a .50 which will obviously not be a Gamo! Will be ordering one of these compressors soon as well.

[Dunxy]

I put an order in for a 1/2 dozen H&N & JSB's as well as a sampler, looking forward to putting them through the Gamo and seeing how they perform! Ive really gotten the Gamo dialed now and I popped a good 1/2 dozen shots into the same hole the other day @ 20m with it.After 500= rounds i do have a few observations about it.

Its very accurate but the design of the way they mount the tank to the barrel at the front is flawed, you have to be extremely careful inserting the fill hose so as not to cause any flex or it throws the zero of.

The trigger is indeed absolute tripe! Had a play with adjustment and only slight improvement to be had. Im going to order a replacement kit from OS that includes a aluminium blade (with changed geometry) as well as a couple of other parts.The plastic blade i believe is the major flaw, so much flex trying to have predicable break is near on impossible.Its a shame because this (and flex issue mentioned above) are 2 issues that do detract from an otherwise very nice accurate little rifle.

On a positive note ive notice its very consistent un-regulated, even shooting heavier slugs the other day i ran it right down to the red (ive been stopping well before prior) and i wasn't having to hold over any extra shooting at 25m.So i dare say I wont bother regulating it as the consistency is more than adequate for what I desire.

Will report on the new slugs when ive had a chance to shoot them all!

[pomemax]

cheap enough for a 50 cal pcp
http://www.ausarms.com.au/links/categor ... ubcat_id=4

Those sub-$1000 rifles look like fun. I'm going to have to do some research.
In powder rifles we know there's a sweet spot at 6-7mm and .338-.375" - is there a sweet spot in air rifle calibers? When I was a youngster I shot air rifles competitively and we always looked at .177 for accuracy, .22 was for energy rather than accuracy.

I see they sell 9mm pellets for $10/46, dearer than a lot of .22LR ammo.

yer I don,t own one they just look like fun eh

[Dunxy]

So ive been working my way through over a dozen assorted (mostly H&N and JSB) slugs, only a few left to go!

The FTT's have been the best i have tried so far,they group decently however not (close, very close) as well as the heavy long range Gamo slugs I already have.But the FTT are for sure better value.

The JSB Diablo now, well what can I say.... You may reffer to the other slugs ive been using (specifically the stoeger match wad cutters which run $15 per 500 VS $25is retail for the JSB's...) as sinker grade, these JSB's group even worse than the ancient Winchesters I have! That bad i though crap, im shooting like rubbish or something is wrong with the rifle so loaded a mag of the stoegers and shot a 1 hole 5 shot group, so gun was grouping fine but it freaking HATES these on a level ive never encountered before! I will also add the quality of finish and consistency of the stoegers are better than any of the H&N or JSB's, so if you haven't tried them (because you wrote them of for whatever reason) I highly suggest you do as you may be pleasantly surprised! Ive go some pics on my phone and will put them up after i finish testing them all, ive got 3 left to test.

The only other pellet of note so far was the crow magnum which grouped reasonably well.

The stupid FTT Green alloy (they came in sampler,I wouldn't have ordered specifically)5 grain ish slug went supersonic.

Out of the 3 ive got left to try, only one I have any hope for are cometa exacta wad cutters.

[bigrich]

this is a old post, but i thought i would revive it to see if anyone has been playing with 22 pcp for plinking/rabbit culling duties. i've just bought a hw80 weihrauch springer in 22 and am very impressed . but a hw100 in pcp has appeal . scuba tanks or a electric pump take the hassle out of pumping them up manually . less noise and lethal range might be handy in semi rural applications where noise and neihbours could be a concern . i think farmers might be more receptive to air rifles as well with livestock not being spooked or in danger from harm
i was talking to a relative that lives around doreen in victoria and there is a rabbit plauge in these outer suburbs as they've worked out no one will shoot them there . saw the same thing in tenterfield , more rabbits around the outer areas of town than out in grazing country . seen foxes in broad daylight sneaking around the outer parts of town too
with permission from locals and checking with local police, i'm wondering if this could be a solution for more rabbit stews

they've been using air rifles in the uk for this for a long time

so anybody got any feedback on this subject

[scoot]

Bought an fx dreamline .22 a while ago. More than capable of taking rabbits @50. (Haven't got any, bit dry around here, but have taken several pest birds emphatically). Mines set at around 30fpe currently. Have had 18gr jsb up near 900 fps with about 135psi reg pressure.The few pcp's I have experienced have all been very accurate. Fx, Benjamin, weirach. Trajectory is obviously a bit loopy but groups can still be tight @100.
Air doesn't have to be painful. For me Top ups from a cheap ebay $30 hand pump from reg dropout to full takes about 50 pumps. Shot count of around 40-50. I also managed to pickup a compressor for $360, 1.1l bottle, reg, hoses, etc was around $150 I think. This makes filling a breeze, and the small bottle gives about 3-4 refills with great portability.
Still quite loud to use but it does have a different note to a "gunshot. As you elude to public perception is definitely more responsive to an old air rifle than a conventional firearm. Maybe the old carny duck shooting jobbies are what people imagine. Reality is modern pcp's are another level. Like anything you can spend little or lots. I saved for a while to get my setup but dont regret it at all.

[bigrich]

thanks for the reply scoot, you've confirmed a few theory's i have on this subject. i'm new to air guns, (not counting the piece of crap chinese air rifle i had as a kid ) and the springer's definately teach you to pay attention to hold and technique . was shooting my hw80 this arvo with diana "exact" pellets off a flat rest out to 25 meters and got a vertical group of 10 shots that measured 20mm . considering my lack of experience with air, and the amount of wind blowing, it impressed me . pcp is a whole lot better as i understand because there is no mechanical recoil from a spring