Marlin 336SS 30-30

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Re: Marlin 336SS 30-30

Post by Rod_outbak » 22 Aug 2018, 6:50 pm

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With all due respect, I’m not sure the benefits of the FTX pill are as profound as you think. For example a classic 150gr hunting pill slung at 2400fps with a bc of say 0.2 has 8” of drop at 200yds. The 160gr FTX pill (with a bc of 0.33) traveling at 2300fps drops 7” - that’s sfa difference considering the 30/30 would be lucky to group into 5” at 200yd. No, rather than projectile selection, IMO the key to long ranging with a 30/30 is to find an inherently accurate rifle like a Marlin CB or similar octagonal Winchester, and get across your trajectories through practice. To make matters worse, like you’ve identified, those FTX pills don’t seem to shoot above average. The way I see it - it’s just one big marketing gimmick by hornady that seems to have tricked a few deer hunters into thinkin they need the latest and greatest... just my opinion ofc - one way or another I think we’re both on the same page best to just stick to the tried and tested
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Mate, I didnt know I WAS suggesting the FTX pills are a great improvement??

They certainly dont offer any improvement over the older projectiles as far as knock-down power(on pigs at any rate).
They do fly a little flatter, as I mentioned, but I dont think I suggested they were anything great.
Where did I say they were a great improvement??

The one .30-30 round that I think is a stellar performer for pigs, has been the 150Gn HP Winchesters, of which you cant buy the projectiles to reload.
It's not that the Win 150HP pills fly any better than the older 150gn RN pills, it's just that they are extremely destructive when they impact.

Lets face it; a .30-30 lever-action isnt the gun you buy for nailing targets at 400 metres. It's a good scrub gun, that is pushing it's limits by the time you go much past 200 metres. Yes; they WILL shoot accurately beyond that with a bit of care, but most people who use a .30-30 are looking for short-medium range work, and thats where they shine.
Got me completely stumped where I said the 160FTX was a great improvement...

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Re: Marlin 336SS 30-30

Post by in2anity » 22 Aug 2018, 7:52 pm

Rod_outbak wrote:
Mate, I didnt know I WAS suggesting the FTX pills are a great improvement??

They certainly dont offer any improvement over the older projectiles as far as knock-down power(on pigs at any rate).
They do fly a little flatter, as I mentioned, but I dont think I suggested they were anything great.
Where did I say they were a great improvement??

The one .30-30 round that I think is a stellar performer for pigs, has been the 150Gn HP Winchesters, of which you cant buy the projectiles to reload.
It's not that the Win 150HP pills fly any better than the older 150gn RN pills, it's just that they are extremely destructive when they impact.

Lets face it; a .30-30 lever-action isnt the gun you buy for nailing targets at 400 metres. It's a good scrub gun, that is pushing it's limits by the time you go much past 200 metres. Yes; they WILL shoot accurately beyond that with a bit of care, but most people who use a .30-30 are looking for short-medium range work, and thats where they shine.
Got me completely stumped where I said the 160FTX was a great improvement...

Cheers,

Rod.

Just the bit where you said it was roughly half the drop at 300m - in reality it's no where near that (compared to say a classic 150gn pill). That's all - and I acknowledge that you said you weren't 100% certain - I wasn't having a go - just setting the record straight that the FTX pills aren't nearly all they're cracked up to be. Sorry if I came across as obnoxious, forums always catch me out of context :drinks:
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Re: Marlin 336SS 30-30

Post by Stix » 22 Aug 2018, 8:02 pm

Looks very nice Python...im dribbling over my keyboard...!!!
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