New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

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New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by SHV » 28 Oct 2017, 2:07 pm

18” Stainless steel barrel, heavy sporter contour
Rotating bolt
Detachable double stack all metal box magazine
Grade I Walnut; Realtree Max-1 camo finish; Dura-Touch Armor Coating; Checkered straight grip stock
Adjustable rear sights, TRUGLO/Marble’s fiber optic front sight
Weight 6 lbs 6 oz
TAKEDOWN :lol:

ALL my favorite features came into one rifle! :lol:

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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by SHV » 28 Oct 2017, 2:19 pm

the best iron sight ever (I've tried)

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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by COLLECTOR 1 » 28 Oct 2017, 2:22 pm

Very nice....I've been toying with the idea of getting one of these, have you had it out yet.???

Look forward to some reports.

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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by SHV » 28 Oct 2017, 2:27 pm

first shot, 30-40 meter away off hand iron sight, right in the middle, blow the bottle and splash the water 2 meters high :lol:
very happy with the iron sight and it's already sighted in :lol: :lol: :lol:

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will try some reload and update later
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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by SHV » 28 Oct 2017, 2:30 pm

COLLECTOR 1 wrote:Very nice....I've been toying with the idea of getting one of these, have you had it out yet.???

Look forward to some reports.

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thanks, just tried few shots at my friends farm, it was late so only tried iron sight, will update with reload ammo test
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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by Daddybang » 28 Oct 2017, 3:30 pm

Nice !!! :drinks:
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 28 Oct 2017, 7:14 pm

Reports on MO say they are very good but we are grateful for an Aussie update :D
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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by in2anity » 28 Oct 2017, 7:43 pm

Very cool SHV - very interesting idea the whole spire-tip projectiles in a lever. You gonna gather some (scoped) grouping data for it?
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Post by TBJ » 28 Oct 2017, 9:49 pm

Very Nice SHV, what scopes that you've got on it? and does it lose zero with the scope after you've taken it down or does it keep its zero, just wondering as it's attached to the action not the barrel
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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by MalleeFarmer » 29 Oct 2017, 5:23 pm

in2anity wrote:Very cool SHV - very interesting idea the whole spire-tip projectiles in a lever. You gonna gather some (scoped) grouping data for it?


The only reason SP projies in a lever is odd is due the tubular magazine where any sort of a point has the potential to become a firing pin under heavy recoil or a hard bump.
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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by in2anity » 30 Oct 2017, 1:40 am

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in2anity wrote:Very cool SHV - very interesting idea the whole spire-tip projectiles in a lever. You gonna gather some (scoped) grouping data for it?


The only reason SP projies in a lever is odd is due the tubular magazine where any sort of a point has the potential to become a firing pin under heavy recoil or a hard bump.


Um, yes I think we all know this fact mate - the BLR obviously doesn’t suffer from this restriction (hence why I made the comment)? Cool story though thanks for sharing :thumbsup:
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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by MalleeFarmer » 30 Oct 2017, 6:37 am

in2anity wrote:
Um, yes I think we all know this fact mate - the BLR obviously doesn’t suffer from this restriction (hence why I made the comment)? Cool story though thanks for sharing :thumbsup:


Still not really that different of an idea since the BLR had been around since the 60s. :o

Anyway SHV the takedown looks awesome! What projectiles are you working up a load for?
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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by SHV » 30 Oct 2017, 9:34 am

MalleeFarmer wrote:
in2anity wrote:
Um, yes I think we all know this fact mate - the BLR obviously doesn’t suffer from this restriction (hence why I made the comment)? Cool story though thanks for sharing :thumbsup:


Still not really that different of an idea since the BLR had been around since the 60s. :o

Anyway SHV the takedown looks awesome! What projectiles are you working up a load for?


currently TBF 150gr, will try some hard coated cast lead later
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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by SHV » 30 Oct 2017, 9:40 am

TBJ wrote:Very Nice SHV, what scopes that you've got on it? and does it lose zero with the scope after you've taken it down or does it keep its zero, just wondering as it's attached to the action not the barrel


got Leupold vxIII 1.5-5x20 for normal use, ammo testing will be Meopta meopro 6-18x50 side focus, thinking Aimpoint H2 or iron sight for hog hunting

will find out if it can hold zero for takedown and put back few times later
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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by SHV » 30 Oct 2017, 9:44 am

in2anity wrote:Very cool SHV - very interesting idea the whole spire-tip projectiles in a lever. You gonna gather some (scoped) grouping data for it?


got the ammo (TBF 150, AR2208 44.0-46.8))and scope (Meopta 6-18x50) ready for the test but no time to do it til this friday or saturday :roll:
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Post by in2anity » 30 Oct 2017, 10:05 pm

MalleeFarmer wrote:Still not really that different of an idea since the BLR had been around since the 60s. :o

Did I say anything about it being a “new” idea?

And is the BLR different to the vast majority of levers on the market? In my eyes, it sure is.

Anyways let’s not squabble because it’s childish (guilty as charged). My point stemmed from the fact that you can load up just about any 30-cal projectile in the BLR 308. Means it’s just a lot more versatile (from a handloading perspective) than ye olde 30/30. That’s why to me, the BLR is an “interesting” rifle. High BC projectiles with the ergonomics of a lever action IS interesting. Not that I should really have to justify myself though... but “that’s the interwebs folks!” isn’t it
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Post by in2anity » 31 Oct 2017, 1:53 am

SHV maybe of interest here’s a little snap of a westcastings next to a fancy ELD-X - both in the 308:

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The thought occurred to me; do you want me to mail you a sample of the westcastings? I can spare a few no worries.
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in2anity wrote:SHV maybe of interest here’s a little snap of a westcastings next to a fancy ELD-X - both in the 308:

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The thought occurred to me; do you want me to mail you a sample of the westcastings? I can spare a few no worries.



thanks a lot, I've got some stuff to test, if they are not good then try westcastings, really appreciate for your help

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Post by in2anity » 31 Oct 2017, 10:20 pm

Nice - SHV is that indent near the head of the projectile from seating? Also are you getting lead-shaving when seating? Also it looks like you’re crimping- is this true?
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Post by SHV » 01 Nov 2017, 8:07 am

in2anity wrote:Nice - SHV is that indent near the head of the projectile from seating? Also are you getting lead-shaving when seating? Also it looks like you’re crimping- is this true?


the dent is not from seating, it came this way, I use an expending die to open up the case a little so bullet seating is very smoothly no lead or coating shaving at all, and do light crimping

give me some suggestions please, for 30-30 I'd like to try TB first, because it will be 1894 iron sight, it needs a lot guess work on the accuracy, so what's your suggestion for the TB load? start from 9.0 with CCI magnum primer?thanks
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Post by in2anity » 01 Nov 2017, 1:52 pm

In terms of seating it sounds like you're spot-on with your process. The only thing to add I guess is I'm not sure how important the crimp is shooting 30cal lead through a 308w rifle (like the BLR or a bolt); crimping puts more stress on the brass and reduces its life so you should only do it if necessary. Definitely crimp for the 30/30 though (as you've done).

There's probably not really a need for magnum primers with TB - magnum primers are more for when you think you are not achieving uniform burns (for example a big magnum cartridge with a lot of powder). Or in contrast when you have a reduced load only partially filling the case, where powder positioning can change depending on how you hold the rifle prior to each shot. In your case (the 30/30), examples of appropriate reduced-load powders would be AR2205 or AR2207 - for these powders, it actually helps to tilt the rifle skyward prior to each shot to position the powder back onto the primer. Either that or experiment with case fillers, which is a very divided realm as to whether case fillers are a good idea.

But because TB is such sparse "fluffy" fast burning powder, your burns should be fairly consistent (because the case is pretty much full). In saying that, there's probably no harm in using magnum primers, and for the sake of minimizing variable changes, I'd probably just stick to your magnums for now while you focus on other others (like loads).

In terms of a specific load, levers are notoriously specific/finicky when it comes to load development; a lot more than a bolt gun, very much a case of "each rifle is different". I'm not sure how much use it is, but FWIW my marlin 30/30 seemed to achieve peak TB accuracy at around 8.4 gr of TB.

SHV is your winnie tapped on the side for an aperture sight? Developing loads with only dovetail sights is indeed tricky...
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Re: New Toy, BLR Lightweight ‘81 Hog Stalker Takedown 308W

Post by SHV » 09 Nov 2017, 9:54 am

in2anity wrote:In terms of seating it sounds like you're spot-on with your process. The only thing to add I guess is I'm not sure how important the crimp is shooting 30cal lead through a 308w rifle (like the BLR or a bolt); crimping puts more stress on the brass and reduces its life so you should only do it if necessary. Definitely crimp for the 30/30 though (as you've done).

There's probably not really a need for magnum primers with TB - magnum primers are more for when you think you are not achieving uniform burns (for example a big magnum cartridge with a lot of powder). Or in contrast when you have a reduced load only partially filling the case, where powder positioning can change depending on how you hold the rifle prior to each shot. In your case (the 30/30), examples of appropriate reduced-load powders would be AR2205 or AR2207 - for these powders, it actually helps to tilt the rifle skyward prior to each shot to position the powder back onto the primer. Either that or experiment with case fillers, which is a very divided realm as to whether case fillers are a good idea.

But because TB is such sparse "fluffy" fast burning powder, your burns should be fairly consistent (because the case is pretty much full). In saying that, there's probably no harm in using magnum primers, and for the sake of minimizing variable changes, I'd probably just stick to your magnums for now while you focus on other others (like loads).

In terms of a specific load, levers are notoriously specific/finicky when it comes to load development; a lot more than a bolt gun, very much a case of "each rifle is different". I'm not sure how much use it is, but FWIW my marlin 30/30 seemed to achieve peak TB accuracy at around 8.4 gr of TB.

SHV is your winnie tapped on the side for an aperture sight? Developing loads with only dovetail sights is indeed tricky...


thanks mate, really helpful :drinks:
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Post by SHV » 09 Nov 2017, 9:57 am

only tried 2 groups due to OAL is too long, when I tested at home it's ok but in the shooting range found out a little too long, hard to close the lever so only tried 2 3 shot 50 meters groups, 44.0 gr AR 2208 looks close to the sweet point

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Post by SHV » 09 Nov 2017, 10:01 am

44.8 looks spread a little, next time will try some 5 shot group near 44.0
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