BSA CF2 222 on the way

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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 14 Jul 2019, 1:15 am

Has been a while since i saw this thread. I have a load also for 40g zmax as well as the 40 siearra bltz king thats good. I have some more to shoot tommorow hopefully find a load for 55g Sierra super roos that im happy with.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 14 Jul 2019, 6:05 am

AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:Has been a while since i saw this thread. I have a load also for 40g zmax as well as the 40 siearra bltz king thats good. I have some more to shoot tommorow hopefully find a load for 55g Sierra super roos that im happy with.


What twist rate did you get in your 222 again azza?
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by Mark » 14 Jul 2019, 6:58 am

Stick with 50gr pills for the .222 its the perfect weight.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 14 Jul 2019, 10:03 am

bigrich wrote:
AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:Has been a while since i saw this thread. I have a load also for 40g zmax as well as the 40 siearra bltz king thats good. I have some more to shoot tommorow hopefully find a load for 55g Sierra super roos that im happy with.


What twist rate did you get in your 222 again azza?


1-12 seems to like almost everything ive tried in it.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 14 Jul 2019, 7:15 pm

took the old BSA 222 to the range the other day after not firing it for a long long time. Bought it in 1975 new and it wouldn't have had any more than 500 rounds through it so the barrel should be in good nick. Ammo was stuff that I reloaded sometime last century, and using Sierra 50gn Spitzers. I had no idea how it would should but was pleasantly suprised by the results on the 100 meter targe. Next task is to tighten up what was a pretty sloppy reloading regime to improve accuracy.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigfellascott » 14 Jul 2019, 8:05 pm

gordicans wrote:took the old BSA 222 to the range the other day after not firing it for a long long time. Bought it in 1975 new and it wouldn't have had any more than 500 rounds through it so the barrel should be in good nick. Ammo was stuff that I reloaded sometime last century, and using Sierra 50gn Spitzers. I had no idea how it would should but was pleasantly suprised by the results on the 100 meter targe. Next task is to tighten up what was a pretty sloppy reloading regime to improve accuracy.


What's the load mate?

I find 20.5gn of 2206H behind a 50gn Pill seems to shoot well in the 222. :thumbsup: 2207 also goes great as does the ol 4198. I think I've also loaded 8208 and it was the same sort of results, pretty much anything I tried in the 222 CMC Mountaineer shot well - especially behind a 50gn pill in pretty much any brand I've tried.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 14 Jul 2019, 8:31 pm

55gr super roos showing promise happy with what im seeing
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 14 Jul 2019, 8:33 pm

Bigfella I was using ADI Benchmark I powder that I bought years ago. Still got tons of it left. I've no idea how much I used as I loaded these a long time ago and couldn't find my notes on how much powder I loaded.. Trying out some new gear on foxes next week (thermal camera, LED light for scope etc) so have to load up some more. The manual says 20.0 as a starter and 22.5 as max load for 50gn projectile so I'll probably go 21 gns to be on the safe side. When I get back I'll do some test loads going up to max in 0.5gn increments to see what happens.
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 15 Jul 2019, 6:33 am

AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:
bigrich wrote:
AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:Has been a while since i saw this thread. I have a load also for 40g zmax as well as the 40 siearra bltz king thats good. I have some more to shoot tommorow hopefully find a load for 55g Sierra super roos that im happy with.


What twist rate did you get in your 222 again azza?


1-12 seems to like almost everything ive tried in it.


I got a 1-12 barrel of swan as well, 23 gn BM2 with 55 vmax or 23.5 with 50 gn Hornady soft point give very , very good groups
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigrich » 15 Jul 2019, 6:47 am

The thing I found with the change in twist from the original 1-14 barrel is my rifle likes projectiles with more bearing surface. Doesn’t shoot boat tails well, and it also likes a slower powder .BM2 over the ar2207 that it liked previously . Hope someone finds this information useful. Cheers
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 15 Jul 2019, 4:30 pm

Found an old box of Australian made 222 projectiles in the bottom of my reloading box. Made by "Super Cartridge Pty Ltd" and google search says they folded in the late 1970's due to some sort of legal dispute over a patent infringement.

Comparing side by side with the Sierra Spitzers they are a little bit shorter and unlike the Spitzer which has a slight boat tail the Super has a completely flat bottom. Packaging of both bullets says 50 gns but on my scales the Sierra Spitzer is 49 gns and the old Super is 52 grains so they look to be a tad heavier. I was going to put them aside but I'll load up a few and see how they go. No point wasting them...
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigfellascott » 15 Jul 2019, 7:19 pm

Will be interesting to see how they shoot mate. :D
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 15 Jul 2019, 8:17 pm

bigfellascott wrote:Will be interesting to see how they shoot mate. :D


I'll let you know ... it would be a shame to waste some beautifully crafted bullets that some old Aust company went a lot of effort it make. My guess is they'll shoot just as well as the new fancy ones, but we'll see
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigfellascott » 15 Jul 2019, 9:15 pm

gordicans wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Will be interesting to see how they shoot mate. :D


I'll let you know ... it would be a shame to waste some beautifully crafted bullets that some old Aust company went a lot of effort it make. My guess is they'll shoot just as well as the new fancy ones, but we'll see


I'm sure they will be fine, what do you mainly use your 222 for?
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 15 Jul 2019, 9:39 pm

it's been retired for some time, will be using it for foxes and feral cats and very shortly
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by Stix » 15 Jul 2019, 9:50 pm

Hey gordicans...
If i sent you some money to cover postage etc...whats the chances of getting my hands on that box & a few (maybe 5...?) of those bullets...?
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 15 Jul 2019, 10:14 pm

Stix, happy to send you some. I'll send you a private message
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigfellascott » 16 Jul 2019, 6:55 am

gordicans wrote:it's been retired for some time, will be using it for foxes and feral cats and very shortly


Perrrfect choice and use for that setup. The foxes and cats won't know what hit em :D Don't forget to take some pics of the ferals you roll with it hey. :drinks:
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 16 Jul 2019, 5:47 pm

Will do Bigfella. I'll be loading up the tent and heading up to fox country later in the week. Going to range tomorrow to try out some test loads with the ADI BM1 powder from 20 gns to max at 22.5gns going up in 0.5gn increments to decide what to load. I've got some already loaded from years ago but looking at the fired primers I think they might be a tad hot. The trigger was super duper heavy so got a set of imperial allen keys from Bunnings this afternoon and they seem to have done the trick. Tiny screw in the trigger guard and a couple of counter clockwise turns appears to have lightened the trigger considerably.

I'll have some interesting gear to try out including a you beaut LED light to go on the scope, a Night Tech HD-25 thermal monocular, quad shooting sticks and an MP3 player loaded up with a call which the guy at Foxbusters kindly sent to me (played it for the missus while she was getting dinner ready and her response was "turn that f*ckng thing off" so it definitely works!). I got the MP3 player on Ebay for $30 (pictured), so I'll be keen to try this out. I've no idea if it works better than a fox whistle but it may be an advantage to be able to put the player 20 or 30 meters from where you are located. I'll let you know how it all goes!
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by bigfellascott » 16 Jul 2019, 6:55 pm

LOL my ex was the same when it came to blowing the fox whistle. Good luck with it all mate, hopefully they will play ball (probably won't at this time of year) but hopefully you will be quick enough to get a shot off at em before they bugger off.

Good luck and I look forward to hearing all about it all. :drinks:
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Re: BSA CF2 222 on the way

Post by gordicans » 05 Sep 2019, 1:07 pm

bigfellascott wrote:Will be interesting to see how they shoot mate. :D
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