CZ 527...Straight comb stock or Lux...?

[Stix]

Anyone eith experience with CZ 527 rifles...
Im considering one in a small cartridge

I understand the Lux version has open sights, which ill not use...ill mount a scope...
Both versions are the same price...
Personally im not a fan of the curved comb stocks, but if tgere is an advantage to them, id learn to like the look...

So my questions...
Any of you own either...?
If so what stock configoration did you buy & why...?
Any pros or cons to them...
Any comments...

Cheers

[bigrich]

having a strong bent for barvarian/german sporters, i would get the lux stock. pistol grip has a little too much curve for me but . shame you cant order a CZ without the open sights. who uses open sights on a sporter these days anyway ? actually,i just remembered the "ebony" 527 rifle. check that out stix. what calibre anyway mate ?

[bigrich]

did have a shoot of a fella's 527 american in 221 fireball the other weekend. was a nice rifle

[deanp100]

did have a shoot of a fella's 527 american in 221 fireball the other weekend. was a nice rifle

Was that at Ripley on a Monday.!

[Stix]

22 hornet

[Crazy]

Anyone eith experience with CZ 527 rifles...
Im considering one in a small cartridge

I understand the Lux version has open sights, which ill not use...ill mount a scope...
Both versions are the same price...
Personally im not a fan of the curved comb stocks, but if tgere is an advantage to them, id learn to like the look...

So my questions...
Any of you own either...?
If so what stock configoration did you buy & why...?
Any pros or cons to them...
Any comments...

Cheers

I ordered a lux in 223 a week before Christmas It has been a few months and I’m still waiting on it. Would help you if I could but it all comes down to how your going to be using the rifle then choose which version from there.

[Daddybang]

I bought the missus a 527-2 lux 222 the and it's one of the nicest shooting rifles I've used .. and that's a leftie shooting a right bolt. Don't know if there's an advantage as such over the straight comb but it was very easy to get used to. Finding rings for it has been a pita as 3/8 are to small & 5/8 are to big .I think they're 15mm. Ended up getting some from a mates collection.

[bigrich]

did have a shoot of a fella's 527 american in 221 fireball the other weekend. was a nice rifle

Was that at Ripley on a Monday.!

Yeh,actually! I think I had my 22 and my swede Mauser out there that day. That was a sweet rifle. Really nice trigger too, which is another good thing about 527 CZ. Cheers for the shoot bud

[bigrich]

22 hornet

You've been wanting a hornet for a while mate, go on and spoil your self. Old mates 221 CZ had the American stock and shouldered well. Maybe you should try to shoulder the different rifles at a gun shop if possible stix. Or maybe some kind fella will give you a go at the range

[deanp100]

Haha. Small world.

[Stix]

. Maybe you should try to shoulder the different rifles at a gun shop if possible stix. Or maybe some kind fella will give you a go at the range

Yes mate, thats the issue...shouldering them...

[Gwion]

I think the Bavarian/hogback stock on the 'lux' is specifically for shooting the open sights as it places your eyeliner closer to the barrel plain. If you are scoping it, probably better to get the straight comb.

[Apollo]

I think the Bavarian/hogback stock on the 'lux' is specifically for shooting the open sights as it places your eyeliner closer to the barrel plain. If you are scoping it, probably better to get the straight comb.

That is probably the best point mentioned. Designed to be used with Open Sights.

Been awhile since I owned a Brno Model 2E (Hogback) that was always Scoped. Maybe that's the reason I didn't like it and kept my Brno Model 2 as it was more comfortable being Scoped.

[bigrich]

I think the Bavarian/hogback stock on the 'lux' is specifically for shooting the open sights as it places your eyeliner closer to the barrel plain. If you are scoping it, probably better to get the straight comb.

bottom line , it's all down to fit i suppose. hogs back is good for me cause i'm 6' 4" and got a big block head. a lot of straight comb stocks make me crook my neck to get my eye line right. don't wanna use high scope mounts . my mod 70 winchester stock isn't too bad, the hogs backs on my krico's and CZ 2E are nice for me. suppose just like a shotty ya gotta find something that fits. actually i think scopes are mounted a bit high on some cz's cause of their 90 degree bolt throw. old mates 221 fireball 527 was comfortable to shoot with a straight stock, think it had factory cz mounts ?

[deanp100]

I think the Bavarian/hogback stock on the 'lux' is specifically for shooting the open sights as it places your eyeliner closer to the barrel plain. If you are scoping it, probably better to get the straight comb.

bottom line , it's all down to fit i suppose. hogs back is good for me cause i'm 6' 4" and got a big block head. a lot of straight comb stocks make me crook my neck to get my eye line right. don't wanna use high scope mounts . my mod 70 winchester stock isn't too bad, the hogs backs on my krico's and CZ 2E are nice for me. suppose just like a shotty ya gotta find something that fits. actually i think scopes are mounted a bit high on some cz's cause of their 90 degree bolt throw. old mates 221 fireball 527 was comfortable to shoot with a straight stock, think it had factory cz mounts ?

It had standard factory tikka rings .
Deano

[marksman]

I think the Bavarian/hogback stock on the 'lux' is specifically for shooting the open sights as it places your eyeliner closer to the barrel plain. If you are scoping it, probably better to get the straight comb.

I was about to say the same
the straight stock is for a low mounted scope, I have both and don't mind either though

[Daddybang]

actually i think scopes are mounted a bit high on some cz's cause of their 90 degree bolt throw. old mates 221 fireball 527 was comfortable to shoot with a straight stock, think it had factory cz mounts ? [/quote]

Yep without the higher mounts ya just can't work the bolt.

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[bigrich]

thanks for the feedback deano. i have the factory mounts for my 452 cz and i think they are similar

[Apollo]

Depends on the actual brand of Scope. Leupold have a smaller ocular housing than a lot of most others like Bushnell and the bolt clears fine with low mounts.

There is quite a difference when you look up all the specs for each brand of scope.

[bigrich]

funny you should say that apollo, out of the scopes i have on hand i fitted a 3-9x40 bushnell trophy on my cz 452 cause it fitted better than a zeiss scope i had. still gotta hold the bolt a certain way so ya fingers clear the scope but. the zeiss went on my krico 22 , matched german enginering.....

[Stix]

I bought the missus a 527-2 lux 222 the and it's one of the nicest shooting rifles I've used .. and that's a leftie shooting a right bolt. Don't know if there's an advantage as such over the straight comb but it was very easy to get used to. Finding rings for it has been a pita as 3/8 are to small & 5/8 are to big .I think they're 15mm. Ended up getting some from a mates collection.

Hey DB...how do you with cheekweld...got much...got any...
Im necessarily interested in how you normaly shoot, but rather if you get any decent cheek contact to stock with it...

Ive found a pic online where the user claims they have no problem, but the scope appears to be a mile above the stock...

Ill try post it later...

[Daddybang]

Hey stix the photo shows my normal weld with the cz. Its a little lower than say the mod 70 . If I was shooting right handed I think the cheek "rest" would force my head lower to be comfortable. If that makes sense.
Anyway the photo probably says it better than me.

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[Stix]

Gees db...nice stock...!!!
Had to get up to check my safe--thought you mite have lifted my sako...

Fiddleback

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Thanks for that...
Ive had a brief look but cant find any drop at comb/drop at heel dimensions between the 2 different models..

I do have a martini 222 that i have little cheeck weld with & im not a fan.

You've explained well & the pic is great...!!!
But i cant see the rear iron sight--did you have any issues with the scope clearing the rear sight...?

I think its too high for my preference, i usually prefer to have more contact...
But im still not completely discounting it...however now i want one with as good timber as yours...!!!

[Daddybang]

Yeah she's a pretty piece of wood
But that sako's got some class
If the cz was any larger cal I'd want to be able to get a bit snugger (is that a word ) but it works great as a 222
The 6×40 that's on it at the moment just sits below the level of the rear site but ya don't see it thru the scope. its a dovetail so I could tap it out if it was a problem.

[Stix]

Nah mate, its not snugger...think its snugger'er...!!
Seriously though,thanks for that daddybang...thats more help than id get in a lot of shops...!!!
And thanks to all...you are all right, it is to do with the sights...

[Daddybang]

No worries stix..first time my mug has been called helpful!!!
Another pic to show the objective behind rear site. As ya can see a smaller bell on the objective wouldn't be a problem!!

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Also one to show clearance of bolt on the tube of scope. Personally I wouldn't want them any lower.

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[bigrich]

nice sako stix. looks like the stock is made out of recycled tigers ! unusual grain. gotta take care with nice timber but.I'm OCD when it comes to looking after my rifles, i almost cried when i saw the dents in the stock of my 70 winnie super grade from the handbrake in my mates ute. live and learn, sniff,sniff. those factory CZ mounts do seem to sit high DB. they suit my big block head well but !

[Daddybang]

nice sako stix. looks like the stock is made out of recycled tigers ! unusual grain. gotta take care with nice timber but.I'm OCD when it comes to looking after my rifles, i almost cried when i saw the dents in the stock of my 70 winnie super grade from the handbrake in my mates ute. live and learn, sniff,sniff. those factory CZ mounts do seem to sit high DB. they suit my big block head well but !

I know what ya mean Bigrich my noggin ain't exactly small either!!!

[Stix]

Well ironically a guy pulled up on the bench mext to me today with a cz 527 lux in of all things the very round im wanting...a...22 hornet...!!
And he was kind enough to let me shoot it too...!!!
I was pleasantly surprised that the drop on the stock (comb) was not as bad as i thought it would be...

But gees the set trigger was light on this unit--i assume he's worked it some, but my thick tradesman skin just could not 'feel' the trigger before it dropped...it was what i consider way too light for what id use it for--a field rifle...& yet the normal trigger (not set) was too heavy...

A couple of other things i didnt like were the mag was very tight to get in & out--not something you (well i) would want if using on a busy spotlighting jaunt...
& i also didnt realise you cant drop a round in from the top...

Apart from these details it was a nice rifle hands down...

Does anyone know if you can drop a round in from the ejection port with the old brno zkm's or fox's...?

[bigrich]

never tried that on the zkm i had stix, mags can be fussy in the foxes as well. which is why i like my krico's....... .if you look at a old zkm, make sure it's got a good original barrel, or if it's rebarreled , it's been done properly. the zkm i bought online was rebarreled by a hunter in NSW who must have been having a crack at smithing , as his name was stamped on the barrel ,( wont put it up here ). the barrel profile was thinner than original, and no barrel band was fitted that bolts to the stock. this rifle shot 3" groups at 100 and rather than put more money into it i moved it on . the set triggers are something you'll either love or hate. me personally i didn't like 'em. hope some of this helps stix