Norinco jw15a accuracy

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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by in2anity » 22 Mar 2018, 7:54 am

McGarnagle wrote:Thanks guys. Are start paying with some of these ideas and see how it goes.

Cheers.


Hey at least it's a cheap rifle - even if you void the warranty, all things considered, how much are you really losing here? I say it's the perfect starter rifle for bubba-smithing 101 training :sarcasm:
At what point does lack of maintenance become patina?
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by straightshooter » 22 Mar 2018, 8:22 am

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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by Gwion » 22 Mar 2018, 9:56 am

straightshooter wrote:For some inexplicable reason some of the comments on this and many other threads remind me of this Far Side cartoon.


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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by Wm.Traynor » 22 Mar 2018, 4:29 pm

Remove grease from the outside of the metal. Remove grease from the stock where it made contact with the metal. ditto the inside of the mag.
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by Wombat » 22 Mar 2018, 4:52 pm

Wm.Traynor wrote:Remove grease from the outside of the metal. Remove grease from the stock where it made contact with the metal. ditto the inside of the mag.
Do you mean remove the barreled action from the stock and clean both surfaces plus the magwell etc? Because that is what I reckon step 1 should be :thumbsup:
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by Wm.Traynor » 22 Mar 2018, 7:35 pm

Wombat wrote:
Wm.Traynor wrote:Remove grease from the outside of the metal. Remove grease from the stock where it made contact with the metal. ditto the inside of the mag.
Do you mean remove the barreled action from the stock and clean both surfaces plus the magwell etc? Because that is what I reckon step 1 should be :thumbsup:


Inside the magazine, itself. Those Chinese even put grease in there. Don't trust them not to (insert paranoia emoticon :crazy:). If that stuff contaminates the cartridge anywhere it will play Merry Hell with accuracy :(
Step 1 should be to remove the grease from the bore using a Loose patch so that the metal chips In. The. Bore. will not be forced into Hard Contact with the lovely new bore.
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by McGarnagle » 22 Mar 2018, 9:27 pm

The first thing I did when I got it was strip it right down and clean everything including the magazines. Especially the bore.
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by Gwion » 23 Mar 2018, 6:49 am

McGarnagle wrote:The first thing I did when I got it was strip it right down and clean everything including the magazines. Especially the bore.


That answers one question.

Next. What are you groups like with a rifle of known reliable accuracy?
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by in2anity » 23 Mar 2018, 8:08 am

Gwion wrote:
McGarnagle wrote:The first thing I did when I got it was strip it right down and clean everything including the magazines. Especially the bore.


That answers one question.

Next. What are you groups like with a rifle of known reliable accuracy?


OP on the first page:

McGarnagle wrote:Thanks guys.
As for the points raised by everyone, I'm not a novice but not an expert either. Last month I shot my. 223 off the bipod at 100m and put 5 rounds in 18mm centre to centre. So I don't think it all me in this case.
At what point does lack of maintenance become patina?
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by Gwion » 23 Mar 2018, 9:50 am

Ok. Missed that post. Sorry.

So that brings it to trying out different action screw tensions and maybe fitting a rimfire specific scope to reduce paralax error.

If that still doesn't improve, I'd try washers between action and stock at the action screws. This is an easy way to test if the barrel wants to be floated before comitting to removing material anywhere.....
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by pomemax » 23 Mar 2018, 10:49 am

Use a torque wrench on the screws After you have cleaned it inside and out, from your target you said you had fire arm on a rest ? what part of the firearm the barrel or the timber/stock it makes a big difference some newer shoots don,t think that it matters but believe me it will
Once you sorta get it OK DON,T clean the bore you will see it improve when you have put enough wax in the barrel your grouping should tighten up shooting @ 50 m a group of .5 of an inch is not improbable with the Jw15a just remember when you clean the wax out your starting all over again
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by marksman » 23 Mar 2018, 12:54 pm

McGarnagle
this may help with your issue's
http://www.aircapgunclub.org/articles/R ... _Pt_I.html
especially pay attention to the first part (cleaning the rifle) and the first 3 lines!
but if it is a barrel/chamber misalignment or crown problem it needs to be looked at by a competent gunsmith to sort
these things are not uncommon in Norinco rifles
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by Garth » 16 Dec 2019, 3:30 pm

I have a old norinco 22 it was a sea cadets rifle.i use it in c comps. 3p and field rifle matches .it's old but shoots very accurate gets me great scores .nothing wrong with f2f hem in my opinion I use blazer 22 ammo love this norinco
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by flutch » 16 Dec 2019, 3:42 pm

Haven't been back through all the comments but 22lr ammo is far from perfect even match grade stuff is still factory mass produced and as with all things with a small powder load and light projie any weight variance is a larger percentage of the overall compared to heavier calibre/cartridge/loads.

you will just have to slog out for a pack of everything and see what ya gun likes, my Ruger loves Winchester T22, Federal Champion, CCI standard and Winchester super x, but it freaking hates Remington ammo, SK, sellior bellot, and a range of other stuff. I see groups bigger than 5 inches from Remington, have even had flyers as wide as half a meter out from it, and tonnes of unburned powder too, but then by the same token my old mans Brno Mod 2 loves the Remington stuff so go figure. I get under MOA with most of the ammo its likes, best results are with CCI standard, with T22 and Federal equal runners up.
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by Oldbloke » 16 Dec 2019, 5:18 pm

flutch wrote:Haven't been back through all the comments but 22lr ammo is far from perfect even match grade stuff is still factory mass produced and as with all things with a small powder load and light projie any weight variance is a larger percentage of the overall compared to heavier calibre/cartridge/loads.

you will just have to slog out for a pack of everything and see what ya gun likes, my Ruger loves Winchester T22, Federal Champion, CCI standard and Winchester super x, but it freaking hates Remington ammo, SK, sellior bellot, and a range of other stuff. I see groups bigger than 5 inches from Remington, have even had flyers as wide as half a meter out from it, and tonnes of unburned powder too, but then by the same token my old mans Brno Mod 2 loves the Remington stuff so go figure. I get under MOA with most of the ammo its likes, best results are with CCI standard, with T22 and Federal equal runners up.


I just went through the the process of working out what my bruno 2 likes.
I completely does my head in. Tried about 15 types of ammo. Best it about 22mm at 50 yards.

Buy a cheap 223 and get 1 moa after trying 3 hand loads. See it all the time. FMD
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by flutch » 16 Dec 2019, 5:22 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
I just went through the the process of working out what my bruno 2 likes.
I completely does my head in. Tried about 15 types of ammo. Best it about 22Bu22mmat 50 yards. B

Buy a cheap 223 and get 1 moa after trying 3 hand loads. See it all the time. FMD


well thing is centre fire stuff, especially high powered is built far more to spec than any ammo for a 22, or any other rimfire for that matter.
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by SCJ429 » 16 Dec 2019, 7:01 pm

Premium rimfire ammo is assembled to a very high standard but even if you buy Eley Match you are not getting the same stuff supplied to top Olympic shooters like Matt Emmons.

With a 223, you can purchase premium components and assemble them yourself. If your skills are good enough it can be as good as anything else on the planet.
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by flutch » 16 Dec 2019, 7:49 pm

SCJ429 wrote:Premium rimfire ammo is assembled to a very high standard but even if you buy Eley Match you are not getting the same stuff supplied to top Olympic shooters like Matt Emmons.

With a 223, you can purchase premium components and assemble them yourself. If your skills are good enough it can be as good as anything else on the planet.



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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by FNQ » 17 Dec 2019, 6:35 pm

All of this good advice.

Mine shots all types of ammo and must have had millions of rounds put through it.

However let’s not forgets its a $200 rifle.
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by Blr243 » 17 Dec 2019, 8:54 pm

I think I paid 130 for mine a hell of a long time ago. Felt yuk. Looked yuk but shot real nice.
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Re: Norinco jw15a accuracy

Post by Sergeant Hartman » 18 Dec 2019, 4:51 am

No I don't have one... but general observation, especially Chinese products, things get cheaper every couple of years, and generally wages etc rise. I think it's usually they have found a cheaper way to make the product or start to cut corners.

So while your 10 year old gun might be good.... there is a chance the newer guns have less in the way of any QA
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