44mag accuracy expectations?

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Re: 44mag accuracy expectations?

Post by bladeracer » 10 May 2018, 9:56 pm

brett1868 wrote:Thinking neither of you have fired a Coonan Competition.....My preferred method of emptying shells :)
The range is 20 mins from home, open 10am till 10pm 7 days (6pm Sundays) and I don't mind the rules.

158gr Hornady XTP
15.5gr AR2205
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COAL 1.580"
1235fps on the LabRadar.


240gn .44 Mag in a 629 is the most damage I've tried to inflict upon myself with a handgun.

Isn't a 158gn at 1235fps just a hot .38 Special load?

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Re: 44mag accuracy expectations?

Post by bladeracer » 10 May 2018, 9:58 pm

in2anity wrote:.303 is under 8mm in both nomenclature and bullet diameter though.


Well hopefully they don’t purely go off name.[/quote]

It just shows how vague and meaningless "up to 8mm" is, it should never have made it into any legal document.
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Re: 44mag accuracy expectations?

Post by brett1868 » 11 May 2018, 10:48 am

Isn't a 158gn at 1235fps just a hot .38 Special load?


A hot 38Spl is around 860fps with 10gr of AR2205, +P 38Spl is 934fps on 11gr of AR2205. Max load is 16gr in .357Mag so I'm up there but still have a .5gr margin of safety. I use the 158gr XTP cause I have 2 semi-auto .357's which must use jacketed projectiles and I buy them in bulk so the price is reasonable.
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Re: 44mag accuracy expectations?

Post by in2anity » 11 May 2018, 11:26 am

bladeracer wrote:It just shows how vague and meaningless "up to 8mm" is, it should never have made it into any legal document.

And do you know what rubs salt in the wound; without naming and shaming, the holder of the official license literally denied me access to the said document; flat out refused me, literally said "they owe me nothing". Makes me think the license itself is probably rather vague, and they don't want to open a can of worms because they know there's no substance behind their internal regs. I'm tempted to formally request a copy through the freedom of information act via a lawyer; but decided it'd be less of a headache just to jump through their stupid hoops (and just get something less that 8mm). grrrrrr.
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Re: 44mag accuracy expectations?

Post by bladeracer » 11 May 2018, 12:31 pm

in2anity wrote:
bladeracer wrote:It just shows how vague and meaningless "up to 8mm" is, it should never have made it into any legal document.

And do you know what rubs salt in the wound; without naming and shaming, the holder of the official license literally denied me access to the said document; flat out refused me, literally said "they owe me nothing". Makes me think the license itself is probably rather vague, and they don't want to open a can of worms because they know there's no substance behind their internal regs. I'm tempted to formally request a copy through the freedom of information act via a lawyer; but decided it'd be less of a headache just to jump through their stupid hoops (and just get something less that 8mm). grrrrrr.


I thought it was the Police that place the 8mm restriction on a range when granting the licence for them to operate?
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Re: 44mag accuracy expectations?

Post by in2anity » 11 May 2018, 1:45 pm

bladeracer wrote:
in2anity wrote:
bladeracer wrote:It just shows how vague and meaningless "up to 8mm" is, it should never have made it into any legal document.

And do you know what rubs salt in the wound; without naming and shaming, the holder of the official license literally denied me access to the said document; flat out refused me, literally said "they owe me nothing". Makes me think the license itself is probably rather vague, and they don't want to open a can of worms because they know there's no substance behind their internal regs. I'm tempted to formally request a copy through the freedom of information act via a lawyer; but decided it'd be less of a headache just to jump through their stupid hoops (and just get something less that 8mm). grrrrrr.


I thought it was the Police that place the 8mm restriction on a range when granting the licence for them to operate?


May well be the case, but that's exactly the point, I wanted clarification based on the facts. Anyways, rant over, enough complaining for one day :oops:
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