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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by bigrich » 23 Dec 2018, 8:01 am

the only winchester ammo that's worked for me was 22 hornet 46 gn hp's . under 1" at 100 out of my rifle. wasn't cheap though :roll: there is a lot of 22 projectiles out there, i had bin using nosler 50 gn bt's. these are a sturdier bullet than vmax supposedly with a thicker base to prevent blow up.i also have 50 hornady soft point flat bases, which were about $29 for 100 i'll shoot some different ones and just see what works i guess . i'm not a high volume shooter, so cost isn't as important as accuracy and projectile performance to me :thumbsup:
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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 23 Dec 2018, 11:05 am

bigrich wrote:the only winchester ammo that's worked for me was 22 hornet 46 gn hp's . under 1" at 100 out of my rifle. wasn't cheap though :roll: there is a lot of 22 projectiles out there, i had bin using nosler 50 gn bt's. these are a sturdier bullet than vmax supposedly with a thicker base to prevent blow up.i also have 50 hornady soft point flat bases, which were about $29 for 100 i'll shoot some different ones and just see what works i guess . i'm not a high volume shooter, so cost isn't as important as accuracy and projectile performance to me :thumbsup:


I have other rifles that I intend to shoot more the 222 will be a designated hunting rifle my expectations of a bullet are a little high but kind of a given as i dont want to educate foxes/cats by missing them. If i can find something that i can shoot around a1inch- 1-1/2 @ 200 ill be happy.
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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by bigrich » 23 Dec 2018, 11:32 am

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bigrich wrote:the only winchester ammo that's worked for me was 22 hornet 46 gn hp's . under 1" at 100 out of my rifle. wasn't cheap though :roll: there is a lot of 22 projectiles out there, i had bin using nosler 50 gn bt's. these are a sturdier bullet than vmax supposedly with a thicker base to prevent blow up.i also have 50 hornady soft point flat bases, which were about $29 for 100 i'll shoot some different ones and just see what works i guess . i'm not a high volume shooter, so cost isn't as important as accuracy and projectile performance to me :thumbsup:


I have other rifles that I intend to shoot more the 222 will be a designated hunting rifle my expectations of a bullet are a little high but kind of a given as i dont want to educate foxes/cats by missing them. If i can find something that i can shoot around a1inch- 1-1/2 @ 200 ill be happy.


from what i've seen my 222 do at 100 on the old barrel, i don't think your expectations are too high at all. when i first got it, with 18.5 gn of ar2205 and 40 vmax i could make one hole at 100 ! i was stoked ! then after a few cleans it started to shoot funny. upon closer inspection, cleaning had taken copper out of pitting in the barrel and it never shot that well again. however, i could still average 1" at 100 with 50 noslers, with a pitted barrel and a loose spot 6" from the muzzle ! i think your desired group size at 200 is totally acheivable, so long as it's not a windy day ;)

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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by duncan61 » 23 Dec 2018, 12:11 pm

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I have been fortunate to find Winchester PSP 50gn in a few shops.They come in a plastic bag and were $17.95/100 with 22.2gn 2208 they replicate the highland factory ammo and have the same POI so all my reloads and if I need new cases or am feeling lazy I can buy 100 highland with confidence that they will be good.When I first started doing Kangaroo damage control I reloaded 52gn Sierra Matchkings and they were super accurate but I had a few get up and hop out of sight and some did not expire immediately any nylon tip bullet would work well and I tried all sort of combinations.2205 left a white residue in the barrel??so that was used up in the Hornet.The PSP bullets will blow up and go through any cat fox shot in the boiler room and on very large roos it blows out half the head about the size of your fist and I have never had one get up ever this is all shot under 100 metres and more like 50 metres.
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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by bigrich » 23 Dec 2018, 12:42 pm

ar2207 works well for me with 50 gn bullets and burns clean . ar2206h burns dirty in my barrel. might have to do a test on ar2208 just to see :thumbsup:
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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 23 Dec 2018, 12:49 pm

bigrich wrote:ar2207 works well for me with 50 gn bullets and burns clean . ar2206h burns dirty in my barrel. might have to do a test on ahr2208 just to see :thumbsup:


I found that my best groups were with 2207 i had also loaded up a few with 8208 that was showing promise. Not bad considering that the throat was all washed out and pitted. I also have some 2206 and 2208 to play with.
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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by duncan61 » 23 Dec 2018, 1:37 pm

I developed a 2208 load because at some point I purchased 4kg so I am being slack and use it in .222 .243 and 100gn pills in 7mm Rem
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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by bigrich » 23 Dec 2018, 5:23 pm

hey fellas, what primers do you like in 222 ? rem 7 1/2 or cci 400 ?
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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 23 Dec 2018, 7:21 pm

Just using winchester primers cant say ive ever played around with diffrent primers.
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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by bigrich » 23 Dec 2018, 8:08 pm

the winchesters are probably the same sort of small rifle primer that the cci 400 are. the rem 7 1/2 are a benchrest primer that burn a lot hotter . supposedly designed for the 222 . i'll try the 400's and see how i go i guess . i've used the 400's to shoot one hole groups with 40 vmax on the old barrel . i did a few different powder weight loads in ar2207 and benchmark 2 just before. man ,the benchmark 2 gives a full case, i had to swirl fill the cases to leave enough room for seating the projectile . ADI don't list it as a compressed load, but it must be close :?

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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by AZZA'S HJ47 » 24 Dec 2018, 7:43 am

I much prefer a full case as opposed to something only half full. I have found the usually to be a little more consistent.

That being said hate hearing a crunch when reloading too.
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Re: 222 1-12 twist rate loads

Post by bigrich » 24 Dec 2018, 9:44 am

AZZA'S HJ47 wrote:I much prefer a full case as opposed to something only half full. I have found the usually to be a little more consistent.

That being said hate hearing a crunch when reloading too.


your right there. all the loads that work well in my rifles have pretty full case capacity. i've been getting amazing accuracy out of 120 nosler bt's in my 6.5x55 with a really full case of reloader 22. accuracy wise, works better than 140's , possibly due to twist, maybe due to a fuller case ? on the last 222 barrel the ar2207 performed best with 50's, i'm hopefull that BM2 will perform better now cause i have a bit of it and it really fills the case . no crunch but :D

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