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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by brett1868 » 13 Jan 2019, 10:08 pm

Go big or go home, 50BMG is definitely the way to go :) Great for emptying the wallet, awesome for clearing the sinus and nothing vaporises kitty cats like the 50. Cat B in NSW and since you're in Sydney there's a shop at Roseville Chase that has several to choose from on the shelf.
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by brett1868 » 13 Jan 2019, 10:10 pm

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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by cracker » 13 Jan 2019, 10:16 pm

brett1868 wrote:Go big or go home, 50BMG is definitely the way to go :) Great for emptying the wallet, awesome for clearing the sinus and nothing vaporises kitty cats like the 50. Cat B in NSW and since you're in Sydney there's a shop at Roseville Chase that has several to choose from on the shelf.

in vic your going to need to be able to explain why you need one, eg long range comp shooting, collectors license something along those lines.
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by SCJ429 » 13 Jan 2019, 10:23 pm

Tell them "if I have to explain it, then you wouldn't understand"

That's is what I tell my wife, it doesn't work on her either.
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by JimTom » 13 Jan 2019, 11:54 pm

So what did you decide on Mate?
The initial outlay for reloading gear is the same regardless of cartridge. You will need the same gear.
It’s only the component costs that vary with cartridge choice. Plenty of reloading packages on the various websites.
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by Harrynsw » 14 Jan 2019, 10:08 am

JimTom wrote:So what did you decide on Mate?
The initial outlay for reloading gear is the same regardless of cartridge. You will need the same gear.
It’s only the component costs that vary with cartridge choice. Plenty of reloading packages on the various websites.


Will start poking around for reloading packages, then start reloading for my 223 and see if it gives me a stuffy. If yes wanna get something in 270 or 30/06.
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by Stix » 14 Jan 2019, 10:53 am

bigrich wrote:you guys need to man up and get a real gun... ... . it comes on it's own handy trailer and has a 20 round magazine and fires 450 rounds per minute. it shoots a 1834 grain explosive anti aircraft projectile (perfect for roo culls , no clean-up required ) ... ... ...
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However a dozer is required to re-level the terrain after each shot...yes...? :sarcasm:
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by pomemax » 14 Jan 2019, 10:58 am

Loading 223 is good to learn on but the cost involved in reloading them works out bout the same as buying factory .
I would recommend you learn with 223 but you will move from there to say 30-06 or 270 quickly .
I find reloading 223 or 9mm if you doing it for cost sorta pointless for accuracy that's a different thing .
Next to consider is the Press and dies set up
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by Harrynsw » 14 Jan 2019, 11:23 am

pomemax wrote:Loading 223 is good to learn on but the cost involved in reloading them works out bout the same as buying factory .
I would recommend you learn with 223 but you will move from there to say 30-06 or 270 quickly .
I find reloading 223 or 9mm if you doing it for cost sorta pointless for accuracy that's a different thing .
Next to consider is the Press and dies set up

More great info, thanks pomemax.
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 14 Jan 2019, 11:25 am

pomemax wrote:Loading 223 is good to learn on but the cost involved in reloading them works out bout the same as buying factory .
I would recommend you learn with 223 but you will move from there to say 30-06 or 270 quickly .
I find reloading 223 or 9mm if you doing it for cost sorta pointless for accuracy that's a different thing .
Next to consider is the Press and dies set up


I would imagine the difference between factory ammo cost vs reloading would depend on where you are.
For example, I was paying over $1/round for 55gn Buffalo River SP at the nearest gun shop. Great ammo, but I am loading my own with 55gn Roo Max for a bit over a third of that.
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Post by Stix » 14 Jan 2019, 11:42 am

Yea good point Gaz... :thumbsup:

It does depend on what you can buy ammo vs components for...
Here is SA prices are over the top...bit of a monopoly here really...unless you have a good relationship with someone...!!

Look at the price of those wini 45gr .22 cal bullets...sheesh man thats cheap even with freight...!
Some good cheap ADI/OSA brass & 4kg of powder & provided they shoot in your rifle & fit the bill for what they are hitting & you couldnt complain at the cost...

Like everything though, im not saying pomme is wrong :) , all down to price affordability & availability...

But thats the bonus of starting with a .223 (or 308)--its cheap either way-reloads or factory...

My 7-08 is a very different matter!...no such thing as cheap reloads...there is just the cheaper end...!!

I priced some Hdy ELDX other day for maybe one day some long range goats--FMD a dollar per bullet... :wtf:
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by pomemax » 14 Jan 2019, 11:47 am

Gaznazdiak:
Plus factoring in the time cost makes a big difference too if you can discount time it would make it worth while for sure .
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Post by Gaznazdiak » 14 Jan 2019, 1:12 pm

Jesus Stix, a buck a pill, that is rude eh?

I thought paying 47c for Nosler 50gn BT was steep.

Sounds like my nearest gun shop.
If you go in there you've got walk around with your arse cheeks clenched to stop him shoving his hand up there and grabbing one of your kidneys when you're not looking :roll: :lol:
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Post by Stix » 14 Jan 2019, 3:57 pm

:roll:

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Post by Stix » 14 Jan 2019, 4:05 pm

Gaznazdiak
Of course, factoring in ones time cost is all part of weighing up affordability.
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by bigrich » 14 Jan 2019, 4:12 pm

cracker wrote:
bigrich wrote:about six months ago there was a WW1 german gewher (mauser 98) large action anti tank rifle for sale on ozguns . it had been set up for 50 BMG . scope kissing eyebrow might be a problem ...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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yeah that thing was super interesting...tankgewehr theres not many in the country and they are f***ing massive, really cool piece.



yeah i thought it was interesting :thumbsup:
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by Oldbloke » 14 Jan 2019, 4:20 pm

Bull s**t thread. Until the OP indicates the use it's a waste of everyone's time..
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Post by Stix » 14 Jan 2019, 4:31 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Bull s**t thread. Until the OP indicates the use it's a waste of everyone's time..


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Yep...i think thats why its gone stupid...nothing to focus on...!! :lol:
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Post by bladeracer » 14 Jan 2019, 4:40 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Bull s**t thread. Until the OP indicates the use it's a waste of everyone's time..


The OP explained in the OP.
"...looking for info/opinions on an ideal calibre and rifle (if that has any bearing) for a beginner to start reloading".
He wants to learn to reload ammo...
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Post by Harrynsw » 14 Jan 2019, 5:02 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Bull s**t thread. Until the OP indicates the use it's a waste of everyone's time..

No iv gained valuable information about reloading. And thanks to the blokes that have contributed. As for you take back your 2 cents worth.
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by Stix » 14 Jan 2019, 6:03 pm

Maybe i missed something in this thread...
Apologies IF i said something out of line harry...
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Post by bigfellascott » 14 Jan 2019, 6:05 pm

Oldbloke wrote:Bull s**t thread. Until the OP indicates the use it's a waste of everyone's time..


He did indicate what he wanted to do with it early on in the thread, shoot a few sheep for tucker and roll the odd bunny, apparently you need to spend up around $3k+ to do it and a hubble telescope to achieve it at 200m max which I doubt ol mate will be even close to achieving being new at firearms :unknown: :lol:
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by SCJ429 » 14 Jan 2019, 6:05 pm

F you get a 270 or 300 make sure that it says WSM on the box.
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Post by bigfellascott » 14 Jan 2019, 6:06 pm

OOps wrong thread :lol: :drinks:
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Post by bigrich » 14 Jan 2019, 6:36 pm

Stix wrote:
Oldbloke wrote:Bull s**t thread. Until the OP indicates the use it's a waste of everyone's time..


:clap:
Yep...i think thats why its gone stupid...nothing to focus on...!! :lol:


awww c'mon stix. a WW1 german anti tank rifle isn't stupid . i hear some pigs don't just have thick shoulder shields, their buying body armour these days :)

nah, you and OB are right. there is no direction or use listed for a larger caliber in this topic :unknown:

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Post by bigrich » 14 Jan 2019, 6:38 pm

bigfellascott wrote:OOps wrong thread :lol: :drinks:


c'mon scott , get with it mate :D . the post you want is over 20 pages and he ended up with a hornet instead of a 223 :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Oldbloke » 14 Jan 2019, 6:57 pm

Harrynsw wrote:Hi folks looking for info/opinions on the ideal calibre and rifle(if that has any bearing) for a begginer to start reloading, and what sort of money am I looking at to begin.
Just throwing the idea around in my head...
Thanks


This being the case the cheapest, perhaps a Hornet.

If ya gonna duck up do it cheap.
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Post by bigrich » 14 Jan 2019, 7:30 pm

Oldbloke wrote:
Harrynsw wrote:Hi folks looking for info/opinions on the ideal calibre and rifle(if that has any bearing) for a begginer to start reloading, and what sort of money am I looking at to begin.
Just throwing the idea around in my head...
Thanks


This being the case the cheapest, perhaps a Hornet.

If ya gonna duck up do it cheap.


the right hornet rifle can be silly accurate . 10-12 grains of powder , 22 projectiles , small pistol primers . cheap . the only thing that sucks is the thin brass . which is why i traded up to a 222 ....... :lol:

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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by SCJ429 » 14 Jan 2019, 7:35 pm

That is why I said the 223 was an ideal place to start reloading, free brass to experiment with. I picked up seven cases on the weekend, it doesn't get any cheaper than that. You hardly ever see Hornet cases abandoned on the floor.
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Re: Ideal larger calibre and rifle recommendation for beggin

Post by Stix » 14 Jan 2019, 8:45 pm

bigfellascott wrote:OOps wrong thread :lol: :drinks:


LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Probably aughing at myself there...

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