Compressed 223 loads cracking neck

[deye243]

Which powders are better?[/quote]
With pills 55g and down hard pressed to find a letter powder than BM2 and 8208 the both have very high density and produce great velocity.

[deye243]

With the cost of ammo of a 223 and the resultant abundance of one fired cases, I am unsure if it would be an issue to just normal neck size 5 times and then chuck it away.... I reckon you could even FLS 5 times and be fine.

FLS was all I did for many years and probably still do the most (nothing worse than being out hunting and go to chamber a round and find out it don't fit no more cos ya only been neck sizing em.

I must be special never had that problem after 20 years of neck sizing even with my revolvers I only ever size 95% of the case that held the pill . The only ones I full length sized were for the 45ACP.

[bigfellascott]

With the cost of ammo of a 223 and the resultant abundance of one fired cases, I am unsure if it would be an issue to just normal neck size 5 times and then chuck it away.... I reckon you could even FLS 5 times and be fine.

FLS was all I did for many years and probably still do the most (nothing worse than being out hunting and go to chamber a round and find out it don't fit no more cos ya only been neck sizing em.

I must be special never had that problem after 20 years of neck sizing even with my revolvers I only ever size 95% of the case that held the pill . The only ones I full length sized were for the 45ACP.

Yeah I've been caught out a few times over the years, prob was I didn't quite have the dies set up right at the time but ya live and learn. generally what I do now when setting up the dies is size a case, chamber it and see it it cycles right and the bolt closes fine then I lock em down and check a few more until Im happy they cycle fine.

I never got bothered with neck dies for quite a few years and still don't have em for some of the cals I have.

[deye243]

When I was using a fld I just screw it in about 0.040 short of touching the press then run a case in wipe it off and try in chamber and keep going a 1/4 turn until the bolt go's down with a bit of resistance then I go 16th or a turn untill the bolt go's down with just a smidgen more resistance than a empty chamber then the die is set for that rifle and brass lasts a long time .......

Ps and just remember to try a couple that haven't been in the die to check that all is good .......

[SCJ429]

Which powders are better?

With pills 55g and down hard pressed to find a letter powder than BM2 and 8208 the both have very high density and produce great velocity.[/quote]

I have found that BM2 is pretty close to 2206h but any faster than that and you are giving away velocity. I would stick with 2206h and find a load that isn't highly compressed, 26.5 grain should go into the case just fine with a little tapping.

[Roo farmer]

With pills 55g and down hard pressed to find a letter powder than BM2 and 8208 the both have very high density and produce great velocity.

Yes, until you compare the price, and then 2206H is better.

[bigfellascott]

With pills 55g and down hard pressed to find a letter powder than BM2 and 8208 the both have very high density and produce great velocity.

Yes, until you compare the price, and then 2206H is better.

I like the versatility of the 2206H - I use it in 5 diff cals.

[deye243]

Bwahahaha Less than 3c a load ........ and I thought I was a tight arse

[SCJ429]

Bwahahaha Less than 3c a load ........ and I thought I was a tight arse

You may need to recalculate your powder costs, it costs me more than ten times that.

[SCJ429]

My calculations we a bit out too. A 500 gram bottle of powder costs me $52, there are 7716 grain in a bottle and with a 25 grain load, 308 loads in a bottle making each load costing 17 cents for powder.

[Sergeant Hartman]

Maybe he's using trailboss in a 223. Lol 3cents maybe we should buy start buying powder from him at 3c per 308 load.

[deye243]

I ment 3cents more than a AR powder per shot

[SCJ429]

Fair enough. I have had great results with 2206H with projectiles from 50 to 80 grains. ADI have put .BM1 down as their recommend powder for a 223 but I find the faster powders are down on speed with no increase in accuracy. That said I have had excellent results using 8208 which can be as good as 2206H.

[SCJ429]

I find that if the faster powders cannot make the speed needed to get to the node 2206h shoots in, you need to drop more speed to find a lower node.

[Oldbloke]

They just need to be annealed. Plenty of threads here about that subject. KISS easy to do