Actual reloadable .22LR.

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Re: Actual reloadable .22LR.

Post by bigpete » 23 Apr 2019, 9:00 am

bladeracer wrote:
bigpete wrote:You can buy 22 rim fire reloading kits anyway...


Yes, but far from practical, reliable, or cheap, compared to simply priming these.


You know this for a fact ?
I think,if you were going to bother arsing around at all with reloading a 22lr,this would at least be as good or better than mucking around with a centrefire 22lr....
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Re: Actual reloadable .22LR.

Post by bladeracer » 23 Apr 2019, 9:26 am

bigpete wrote:
bladeracer wrote:
bigpete wrote:You can buy 22 rim fire reloading kits anyway...


Yes, but far from practical, reliable, or cheap, compared to simply priming these.


You know this for a fact ?
I think,if you were going to bother arsing around at all with reloading a 22lr,this would at least be as good or better than mucking around with a centrefire 22lr....


I have never seen a great degree of success from anybody that has tried to reload rimfire ammo, and it is far more involved than loading centrefire ammunition. Some of the more successful efforts I've seen were still under-powered and with poor accuracy, with a 50/50 chance of ignition. It's basically a last-resort SHTF type scenario. I don't know that we could legally make or even possess the priming compound here in Oz anyway.

If you want "better" ammo you can disassemble loaded ammo and load your own charges and bullets, which is an expense on top of buying the ammo to begin with.

I have thought that it wouldn't be all that difficult to punch the rim out a touch to allow removing the dead priming compound and allowing the new liquid to better fill the rim, but it does add even more work to the job.

Using a small-rifle primer you could probably have quite serviceable plinking ammunition without adding any powder. I can see that I'll have to machine some brass.
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Re: Actual reloadable .22LR.

Post by bigpete » 23 Apr 2019, 9:36 am

See,I'd just as soon buy a 22 hornet and load down or just about any other 22 centrefire than root around trying to make a centrefire 22lr which will technically be changing the category of the rifle it's firing in.
Now,a reloadable 17hmr...
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Re: Actual reloadable .22LR.

Post by bigrich » 23 Apr 2019, 12:25 pm

17hmr , trail boss load in a 17 hornet would be worth investigating
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Re: Actual reloadable .22LR.

Post by wanneroo » 23 Apr 2019, 11:13 pm

Aguila makes two different 22LR cartridges that uses priming compound only for shooting pests up close with little noise. I'd imagine a small rifle primer would provide enough oomph to do the same.
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Re: Actual reloadable .22LR.

Post by on_one_wheel » 23 Apr 2019, 11:44 pm

Why haven't I seen a .22 LR rimfire round that better reflects our aerodynamic centrefire projectiles with ballistic tips ?
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Re: Actual reloadable .22LR.

Post by bigpete » 24 Apr 2019, 2:50 am

wanneroo wrote:Aguila makes two different 22LR cartridges that uses priming compound only for shooting pests up close with little noise. I'd imagine a small rifle primer would provide enough oomph to do the same.

A mate does that with 22 hornet and air rifle pellets...
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Re: Actual reloadable .22LR.

Post by bladeracer » 24 Apr 2019, 6:53 am

on_one_wheel wrote:Why haven't I seen a .22 LR rimfire round that better reflects our aerodynamic centrefire projectiles with ballistic tips ?


Primarily due to cost I'd say. WMR uses better bullets, but the cost is higher than some centrefire ammo.
I've pulled .22LR bullets and used the charged brass to fire .224" jacketed bullets in .22LR. Accuracy is excellent, but it's still so much easier to download something bigger.
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Re: Actual reloadable .22LR.

Post by bladeracer » 24 Apr 2019, 6:54 am

bigpete wrote:
wanneroo wrote:Aguila makes two different 22LR cartridges that uses priming compound only for shooting pests up close with little noise. I'd imagine a small rifle primer would provide enough oomph to do the same.


A mate does that with 22 hornet and air rifle pellets...


I've done it with empty .22LR brass and air-rifle pellets. Haven't tried it in the .223 as yet.
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Re: Actual reloadable .22LR.

Post by on_one_wheel » 24 Apr 2019, 7:24 am

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on_one_wheel wrote:Why haven't I seen a .22 LR rimfire round that better reflects our aerodynamic centrefire projectiles with ballistic tips ?


Primarily due to cost I'd say. WMR uses better bullets, but the cost is higher than some centrefire ammo.
I've pulled .22LR bullets and used the charged brass to fire .224" jacketed bullets in .22LR. Accuracy is excellent, but it's still so much easier to download something bigger.


Your right....Cost would be a killer, I guess that's why that HMR stuff is so pricey.

.224 bullets sounds like fun, I might get adventurous enough one day to look into that.

I guess we're limited to the mag length too if you don't want to single load them.
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Re: Actual reloadable .22LR.

Post by bladeracer » 24 Apr 2019, 8:21 am

on_one_wheel wrote:
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on_one_wheel wrote:Why haven't I seen a .22 LR rimfire round that better reflects our aerodynamic centrefire projectiles with ballistic tips ?


Primarily due to cost I'd say. WMR uses better bullets, but the cost is higher than some centrefire ammo.
I've pulled .22LR bullets and used the charged brass to fire .224" jacketed bullets in .22LR. Accuracy is excellent, but it's still so much easier to download something bigger.


Your right....Cost would be a killer, I guess that's why that HMR stuff is so pricey.

.224 bullets sounds like fun, I might get adventurous enough one day to look into that.

I guess we're limited to the mag length too if you don't want to single load them.


The biggest problem is the .22LR is a healed bullet, the base of the bullet needs to be under bore size to fit in the case. Boat tails would likely work okay for seating, but are probably too long for the 16"-twist rate. I drop the bullet into the chamber, then seat the case behind it. A cast gas-check bullet would work okay, but doesn't offer any advantage over the standard bullet. If you seriously wanted to use jacketed bullets you'd probably put them in the lathe and turn the base down to about .220" to be able to seat them.
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