Safely disposing of Failed reloads - primers

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Safely disposing of Failed reloads - primers

Post by TassieTiger » 06 May 2019, 8:04 pm

So I have a number of 30/06 rounds that I am going to pull the projectile from and save - along with powder, BUT I want to discard the old cases with the primer in - either fired or unfired.
Is it safe to fire the empty shell in a rifle without powder / projectile in the round ?or Where can you dispose of unwanted brass that has a primer in ?
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Post by SCJ429 » 06 May 2019, 8:15 pm

Why don't you reload using the existing primer, you would have enough neck tension so you don't need to size the case.
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Post by duncan61 » 06 May 2019, 8:16 pm

I have deprimed live primers just do it slowly and wear glasses I have never had one go off
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Post by duncan61 » 06 May 2019, 8:21 pm

Did you make some crackers from the once fired brass from the rifle you had problems with and now they wont chamber in your new rifle.My Ruger .222 must have a loose chamber as its rare my reloads chamber in other .222 rifles.The .243 Howa is O.K. and reloads go in 2 other .243s my buddies have.Ruger and BRNO
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Post by RoginaJack » 06 May 2019, 8:28 pm

If the brass is not salvageable, try soaking the primers in sump oil.
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Post by on_one_wheel » 06 May 2019, 8:35 pm

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But in all seriousness, I've never had a problem de-priming live primers.

Or as mentioned, oil kills primers.
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Post by TassieTiger » 06 May 2019, 8:39 pm

This brass was reloaded for a Steyr that would not shoot for sh%t and the new sauer uses tighter tolerances and many will not chamber.
On closer inspection, some of the necks are cracked and the cases are a bit of an unknown quantity - so I am resetting everything back to square 1 and completely starting again. so have approx. 50 reloads to pull and dispose of...would rather not pull and mess around with primers, just want them gone safely and quickly...
Firing them in the gun with just primer? yes / no ?
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Post by SCJ429 » 06 May 2019, 8:48 pm

I like one wheels solution, they will pop in your fire.
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Post by duncan61 » 06 May 2019, 9:00 pm

burn baby burn.I cant see a problem if you can chamber them shooting the primer off.More fun burning them though unlike rimfires where the primer has the energy to pop the case 20 feet or so centre fire primers barely have the energy to move the much heavier case
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Post by Stix » 06 May 2019, 9:21 pm

No ...edit...i mean YES mate...mate...shoot em off in the rifle should be fine...(make sure barrel is ftee of obstruction)...but you say they wont chamber so how will you close the bolt...?

To be honest, if i had 50 odd, id consider to knock out the primers & take them up the farm & throw them in the camp fire for a second or twos' minature fireworks fun...

You could (this is what id do) FL or Neck size the ones not cracked--just remove the pin from stem in the die...then 3/4 fill them with trailboss & seat old bullets for a little plinking fun...just shoot sh1t like cans full of water...or pumped up soft drink bottles with a little builders chalk in em...cos you can...!!

I cant be bothered with oil--i hear it will soak in & kill a primer, but why waste a cap :unknown: --id love to buy a cap gun like we had as kids...you'd have no idea how many Indians i shot in my parents back yard, despite the fact some always got away...!!--infact even when i had to be the indians, i ran out of ammo & shot all the cowboys...!!
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Ok...so im still a boy at heart...

Shoot em off mate...it'll take less time to resize, load & shoot em off, than to hand in somewhere...
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Post by Strikey » 06 May 2019, 9:37 pm

Once you have pulled the projectile, reclaimed tbe powder just deprime the cases as per usual but if you don't want to resize the cases then adjust the deprime pin down a bit further, never had one go bang and never had a misfire with the primers I re-used :thumbsup:
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Post by Stix » 06 May 2019, 10:10 pm

Strikey wrote:Once you have pulled the projectile, reclaimed tbe powder just deprime the cases as per usual but if you don't want to resize the cases then adjust the deprime pin down a bit further, never had one go bang and never had a misfire with the primers I re-used :thumbsup:


Thats interesting Strikey...
Ive wondered about re-seating primers but not done it.
The reason is when ive reseated live primers ive punched out, they've gone in the case with no resistance & so ive been worried about the cartridge blowing back...
I guess it wouldnt, but as ive felt the primer go in with far less resistance than a projectile ive let worry get the better of me... :?:

Might've been different if primers cost more...

Dont want to hijack Tassie's thread, but what do others do with live primers they've punched out...reseat em or bin em...? :unknown:
Am i worried about nothing... :unknown:
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Post by wanneroo » 06 May 2019, 10:15 pm

I'd just one drop of oil should do it in each case.
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Post by bladeracer » 06 May 2019, 10:18 pm

Stix wrote:Dont want to hijack Tassie's thread, but what do others do with live primers they've punched out...reseat em or bin em...? :unknown:
Am i worried about nothing... :unknown:
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Post by TassieTiger » 07 May 2019, 12:02 am

I’ve reseated primers as well Stix and it troubled me...they went in so darn easy I squeezed the hand primer a lot further than I should have on a few...I bought a 1000 large primers for $70 and I’m starting the entire 06 process again with some exy for me, lapua brass and I don’t want to have second doubts, so might do whats suggested and either camp fire a few and piss about with some others...
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Post by Stix » 07 May 2019, 12:35 am

Ok cool...thanks guys...
Next lot i have to knock out ill reseat & test a few...

Get the Trailboss Tas...its good fun stuff & you can shoot heaps of rounds befoe the barrel gets a bit burn'ies... :clap: :D

But only resize those cases & stuff with T-boss after you've pulled the starter cord on that 'stihl'...if you get my drift...... :thumbsup:
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Post by marksman » 07 May 2019, 8:17 am

I have reseated primers but only for fireforming cases, the primers are a bit deformed sometimes and I have had misfires
I have had one go off in my hand when I used a wilson neck die and hammer to resize and deprime
it has never happened when using wobble dies in a press
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Post by TassieTiger » 07 May 2019, 10:39 am

Did you poo MM?
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Post by Sergeant Hartman » 07 May 2019, 11:43 am

He probably did...I know I would likely.

I will reseat them in cases to reload but these are usually the first or demo rounds.
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Post by bigfellascott » 07 May 2019, 3:20 pm

Into the fire with em I say :D
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Post by TassieTiger » 07 May 2019, 3:43 pm

bigfellascott wrote:Into the fire with em I say :D


Conspiracy no 7615.
This was actually a govt test to see how responsible senior members are - most of you FAILED!!!!!
Geeez they are loud in the fire tho :clap: :o :oops: :D
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Post by marksman » 07 May 2019, 4:13 pm

TassieTiger wrote:Did you poo MM?


yep :wtf:

it had enough power that the die flew out of my hand and I had a big hole burnt into the palm of my hand :shock:
I could not tell the missus or she would have carried on about how stupid I am doing a foolish thing like that :lol:
anyway as I said I have not had the problem with wobble dies in a press :drinks:
I would not worry about a few but if it were a decent amount, a hundy or more I would :thumbsup:
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Post by snag » 07 May 2019, 6:13 pm

Back to the OP's original query, yes you can pop off primers all day without doing any harm to your firearm. Be aware that they are surprisingly loud but, so if you're doing it in a suburban back yard the neighbours will hear it. It'd kinda spoil your day to have the police SERT team kickin' down your door.....
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Post by TassieTiger » 07 May 2019, 7:30 pm

I started de loading, de priming the best of the remaining cases not earmarked for other stuff.
150 cases in total and closer inspection has meant ive tossed 30 or so of those due to being over cautious.

This means I’ve now got 2 bags of 60 x 30-06 brass. So if you know someone who might be doing it a bit tough but enjoys their 06 shooting/reloading - send me a PM with their name and address details and I’ll post one of the bags out. This brass is all ex factory rounds. Majority of these have been fired from factory, resized then reloaded but not fired due to mix up with steyr / sauer.
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Post by bigfellascott » 07 May 2019, 9:30 pm

TassieTiger wrote:
bigfellascott wrote:Into the fire with em I say :D


Conspiracy no 7615.
This was actually a govt test to see how responsible senior members are - most of you FAILED!!!!!
Geeez they are loud in the fire tho :clap: :o :oops: :D


:lol: :lol: indeed they do make some noise when fired without powder and projectile but completely harmless otherwise. :allegedly: :D
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Post by gunnnie » 15 May 2019, 10:44 am

Firing them off is the simplest method. But it is boring!
So, I had a fair qty of 38Spl rounds that I was given to get rid of. I broke them down & while I was doing so, was pondering on what to do with the primers. I could have just used them but thought it better to start fresh.
Then I thought well I'll be stuffing round for a while to fire them all off so I thought what could I do to make it 'worthwhile'.
Lightbulb moment! I spotted a box of soft earplugs. Squish one up and place in mouth of case. Push in till flush with case mouth.
Load & fire! Bingo! Indoor training rounds.
Hehehe. Had some fun for an hour.
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Post by Member-Deleted » 15 May 2019, 11:14 am

Wouldn't the plugs go too deep into the ear when fired in ? :thumbsup: :lol: :lol: :silent: :silent: :allegedly: :drinks:
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Post by gunnnie » 15 May 2019, 12:07 pm

Lol! Be one way to make sure the barstards stay in eh!
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