Stix wrote:Well...the last bullet i tried i rekon i did a box of 100...then double-checked the result with the next batch...& i havnt changed seating depth-thats just running at mag length less a smidge.
And this particular bullet shoots well in the rifle, & only had the one obvious node ...gees i couldnt imagine checking two or more nodes & changing brass & primers as well...
To my mind, every time you change brass you're back at the very beginning...
In the past ive had different nodes appear & wasted hundreds of bullets & got no improvement on the first 3 shots out of the test...
So....i rekon its a secret Tassie--& all the guys that know the secret have shares in bullet manufacturing plants...!!!
This load you have that is "reasonable"...
How big is it (with & without flyers), & how big was it initially...?
nightforcenxs wrote:tassie you kind of answered your own question in a way. you stated you have tryed all different powder charges different brass even primers you have done what i would do to eliminate all factors some projectiles just wont shoot in guns i run the hornady zmax 168gr in my 308 tikka and get 1/2 inch 5 shot groups at 200 yards if you can get a hold of some of them tassie i would recommend trying them or even a 175gr projectile. dont beat yourself up over it all the things you tryed were spot on what to do
pomemax wrote:TassieTiger
Just went though the same with a 7.62x39 could not hit 2 holes in same spot ( thought it was a dud ) took the sunshade off the front of the scope 5 shots touching , go figure
TassieTiger wrote:nightforcenxs wrote:But how far do you go - I could try more powders, I could try all manner of aspects with other powders - or do you cut your losses at ? Stsge?
SCJ429 wrote:pomemax wrote:TassieTiger
Just went though the same with a 7.62x39 could not hit 2 holes in same spot ( thought it was a dud ) took the sunshade off the front of the scope 5 shots touching , go figure
Taking the sunshade off the front of your scope had no bearing on your group size, how could it?
duncan61 wrote:I would like to share my thoughts on this.I bought a 7mm Rem Mag to do long distance target shooting and of the 5000 plus roos I harvested over 13 years I probably did less than 100 with the 7mm.For hunting and culling I loaded 100 gn Sierra game kings that do about 3300 fps but I would not try to shoot at a range at 500-600.My target load is 168gn Matchkings with 64gn 2213sc which will do 1000 metres easy.I am assuming you are playing with your new Howa in 300 Win mag and I feel you are under feeding it.Spend a few dollars and get 210 Matchkings and use the ADI data with 2209 62 gns looks to be a good start all this brass weighing and primer changing is not going to do poop if you are using a bullet that belongs in a 30/30.You got a big long range rifle feed it right and see what happens.With match grade ammo they should all be touching at 100.If you ever get to a long range shoot it is normally 2 sighters then 10 detail twice in one day.You will have a sore shoulder and cheek no matter who you are.You are putting 91 unleaded in your ferrari you goose
TassieTiger wrote:So, kind of curious as to how far ppl go before they give up on a projectile?
I’ve got some Speer .30’s in 168gn - I’ve tried every combination of 2209 powder in .2 to .6 over max, gone under, diff primers, different brass, changed length of seat...and I’ve found a recipe that’s reasonable but not great - how far do ppl go trying to get a recipe?
Difficult to answer I know - Side question - how many projectiles does one go through, to determine an accuracy node? A friend and I are going to be going thru a range of .3’s so said we should buy different 50 packs and share them out but 25 isn’t going to be enough to get through a powder test, let alone a seating depth ??