How far do you go - b4 ruling out a projectile ?

[TassieTiger]

I would like to share my thoughts on this.I bought a 7mm Rem Mag to do long distance target shooting and of the 5000 plus roos I harvested over 13 years I probably did less than 100 with the 7mm.For hunting and culling I loaded 100 gn Sierra game kings that do about 3300 fps but I would not try to shoot at a range at 500-600.My target load is 168gn Matchkings with 64gn 2213sc which will do 1000 metres easy.I am assuming you are playing with your new Howa in 300 Win mag and I feel you are under feeding it.Spend a few dollars and get 210 Matchkings and use the ADI data with 2209 62 gns looks to be a good start all this brass weighing and primer changing is not going to do poop if you are using a bullet that belongs in a 30/30.You got a big long range rifle feed it right and see what happens.With match grade ammo they should all be touching at 100.If you ever get to a long range shoot it is normally 2 sighters then 10 detail twice in one day.You will have a sore shoulder and cheek no matter who you are.You are putting 91 unleaded in your ferrari you goose

Cheers mate - I’m trying to lock down a 06 load. I’ve got ocd and I need to have a go-to 3006 load sorted, before I can start messing up my loading bench with 300wm stuff - I stick to one rifle, powder, die set loaded, etc on my little bench, for one caliber before moving on to another - otherwise I get lost.
There’s some good advice on here and it might be time to move on - which will take some time..I really, really need a chrono as per SC...I’m at that point I think where guesswork won’t cut it for FPS and as SC said - match the Core-Lokt speed to start with...
Weird thing was, my reasonable load started off so promising...
And I’ll be good to my 300 - that’s why I want to square this away, so I can put my full attention into developing that.
Cheers for replies. It’s interesting hearing others stories...saw a guy tighten the action screws and loosen a scope ring, of his mates rifle once whilst he was taking a leak...quite entertaining lol

[duncan61]

At my best mates funeral last year the Celebrant stated its not the date he was born or the date he died its the dates in the middle that count and reloading is like that.I am confident every one who has done it has made the heaviest loads cos they will be great and the fastest loads with the lightest pills cos you have to do 4000 fps plus and the reality is if you need a heavier bullet you need a larger chamber so good luck with the experimenting.My.222 has 50gn PSP Winchesters cos they cost 17 cents each yet when I first started I was obsessed with accuracy and purchased 52gn Matchkings and man they went through the same hole at 50 metres when I vice mounted the rifle and it is a lightweight 22 inch S/S barrel you could do knitting with.You will find that perfect combination but being a new toy you will still seek more.Its all part of the fun

[bladeracer]

So, kind of curious as to how far ppl go before they give up on a projectile?

I’ve got some Speer .30’s in 168gn - I’ve tried every combination of 2209 powder in .2 to .6 over max, gone under, diff primers, different brass, changed length of seat...and I’ve found a recipe that’s reasonable but not great - how far do ppl go trying to get a recipe?

Difficult to answer I know - Side question - how many projectiles does one go through, to determine an accuracy node? A friend and I are going to be going thru a range of .3’s so said we should buy different 50 packs and share them out but 25 isn’t going to be enough to get through a powder test, let alone a seating depth ??

It wouldn't surprise me to burn a 100 box during load development, but sometimes you hit a good enough load very early. If I were going to chase down the absolute best accuracy the bullet can produce though I could see it needing a lot more than 100 bullets. I'm pretty happy with anything that will consistently hold MoA or better at 100m under field conditions. If you're not seeing any consistency early on it might be worth trying a different powder.

What sort of group size are you chasing?