Does anyone here use a wet tumbler ?

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Re: Does anyone here use a wet tumbler ?

Post by SCJ429 » 31 Dec 2019, 6:07 pm

JimTom wrote:Mate I have never experienced the grippy cases you mention with my regime. I decap and necksize using the one shot spray lube, then use a sonic cleaner which does a great job on the cases both inside and out, including the primer pocket. I even use the spray lube for full length sizing and it works fine. I know people will have a differing opinions on this, my old man is the first to disagree with me on this. Not sure what would be causing your grippy case issue mate, or if wet tumbling will solve it.


Physics don't just work in my shed, you increase the grip on the bullet when you have clean cases. Check point 3 in this article.

https://www.accurateshooter.com/technic ... hing-size/
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Re: Does anyone here use a wet tumbler ?

Post by Sarco » 31 Dec 2019, 7:07 pm

I do.
I deprime and resize before cleaning.

If they are particularly grotty, I give it a couple of cycles (each 8 mins) in the US cleaner first (Supercheap Auto version). Using plain water with approx 3 level dessertspoons of citric acid added to 2.5Lt water (max marker on cleaner).

Take out and put straight into a 6Kg Lortone QT66 Tumbler barrel, put brass, stainless steel pins, to approx 2/3 full and 18g of MP103Tumble for 2hrs. I also have 2 X 3Kg barrels so I can do 2 sizes at once. Eg 9mm pistol and 40S&W pistol that slip together.

Drain and strain in an old bucket through a fine kitchen strainer, a plastic colander and an old blue singlet.
Pick out cases, shake out pins into strainer etc.

While still wet throw into vibratory tumbler (with crushed corn cob media, which I already had) for 2 hrs.

Fish the case out, (while wearing disposable nitrile gloves to stop finger prints) shake out media, throw into separate (by calibre) 4.5lt buckets with lid, to await reloading.

Depending on rifle/pistol either reload as per normal on the Dillon 650 or Square Deal. Note, including the resize stage as this clears out the media from the primer, pocket. This is the stage that I inspect the cases also.

I have never had an issue with "grippyness" that I have noticed.
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Re: Does anyone here use a wet tumbler ?

Post by JimTom » 31 Dec 2019, 7:33 pm

SCJ429 wrote:
Physics don't just work in my shed, you increase the grip on the bullet when you have clean cases. Check point 3 in this article.

https://www.accurateshooter.com/technic ... hing-size/



Not disputing the physics mate, just saying I haven’t experienced any issues. :drinks:
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Re: Does anyone here use a wet tumbler ?

Post by mchughcb » 31 Dec 2019, 7:55 pm

SCJ429 wrote:
Physics don't just work in my shed, you increase the grip on the bullet when you have clean cases. Check point 3 in this article.

https://www.accurateshooter.com/technic ... hing-size/


Just curious have you tried brand new brass and FLS without graphite before firing? If so was it still grippy?
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Re: Does anyone here use a wet tumbler ?

Post by SCJ429 » 31 Dec 2019, 9:13 pm

mchughcb wrote:
Physics don't just work in my shed, you increase the grip on the bullet when you have clean cases. Check point 3 in this article.

https://www.accurateshooter.com/technic ... hing-size/

Just curious have you tried brand new brass and FLS without graphite before firing? If so was it still grippy?


Yes, brand new brass is super grippy. I have only bought new Lapua and Norma brass recently. It comes with excessive neck tension and you can relieve this by running it through a mandrel. I have to neck turn to get it to fit my chambers but I would not size the case, just fill the case and seat a bullet. I would use lube to seat the bullet, if you did not you would be able to feel that the amount of force needed to seat it would be excessive. Unless this amount is what you consider normal.

If your seating does not feel like you are pushing the bullet through butter and your groups are not good, you may be onto something.
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Re: Does anyone here use a wet tumbler ?

Post by Oldbloke » 31 Dec 2019, 9:19 pm

I always deprime before cleaning. Just makes sense to me. Other wise it an extra job later.
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Re: Does anyone here use a wet tumbler ?

Post by Blr243 » 04 Jan 2020, 4:13 pm

I got slack and did not read all these properly but decided today I might splash out and get a wet tumbler from LGS but they were just shutting shot when I called. Years ago I was prone to sticking a bit of brasso in my corn cob tumbler to give the media a bit more life. I made the mistake today of putting some toothpaste in my tumbler and all I did was add crud to my brass. Jaycar had an ultrasonic cleaner for about 80 and a heated version for about 180. Super cheap had a heated one for 108 with simple instructions. ... for cleaning brass they recommended I cup of water one cup of white vinegar and 4 teaspoons of dish washing detergent........ I’m impressed so far ..... after rinsing and washing and drying I will inspect and then reread your replies and decide if I still want to wet tumble I can see this ultrasonic gadget will also get used for other things that crop up besides cleaning ammo cases .... thanks for your input
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Re: Does anyone here use a wet tumbler ?

Post by Potatoes » 04 Jan 2020, 4:41 pm

Blr243 wrote:I got slack and did not read all these properly but decided today I might splash out and get a wet tumbler from LGS but they were just shutting shot when I called. Years ago I was prone to sticking a bit of brasso in my corn cob tumbler to give the media a bit more life. I made the mistake today of putting some toothpaste in my tumbler and all I did was add crud to my brass. Jaycar had an ultrasonic cleaner for about 80 and a heated version for about 180. Super cheap had a heated one for 108 with simple instructions. ... for cleaning brass they recommended I cup of water one cup of white vinegar and 4 teaspoons of dish washing detergent........ I’m impressed so far ..... after rinsing and washing and drying I will inspect and then reread your replies and decide if I still want to wet tumble I can see this ultrasonic gadget will also get used for other things that crop up besides cleaning ammo cases .... thanks for your input


Ive read that using to much vinegar can damage the brass. Use sparingly.

Ive used it for cleaning fishing reel and bike parts as well. Ebay has ok cheap ones.
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Re: Does anyone here use a wet tumbler ?

Post by JimTom » 04 Jan 2020, 4:48 pm

Mate I use one part vinegar to three parts water and a squirt of detergent.
1:1 sounds a bit strong to me.
There is a thread on this exact topic somewhere on this forum. Make sure you rinse well mate.
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Re: Does anyone here use a wet tumbler ?

Post by Blr243 » 04 Jan 2020, 7:31 pm

Thanks for the tips guys. I will just change the ratio back to a sensible ratio and then I can just drink the extra vinegar that I don’t use
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