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Anyone created their own hollow points?

Post by TassieTiger » 21 Feb 2020, 1:52 pm

At the private range the other week - a guy was shooting a couple of water melons, showing us a bullet he had created.
It was a BT 223, that he had ground down flat on the nose, and then drilled out the nose to an experimental depth.
These projectiles were exploding the water melon on impact - something I’d never seen...like this.

I would be concerned that drilling the jacket would change the parameters, not to mention how accurate drilling you would need to be...

Anyone else experimented like this?
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Post by Blr243 » 21 Feb 2020, 1:59 pm

When I was young I tried with military 223 but never went thru with it because of the likely inaccuracies from making it my self inconsistent ly ..... quickly resorted to factory soft points or v max ..... I despise the use of Fmj on game
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Post by Stix » 21 Feb 2020, 2:31 pm

I would like to somehow be able to do it with solid 22 ammo...
Changing those cci std's into hollow points would be a good thing for bunny shoot'n... :thumbsup:

But no...not done it with CF bullets...
Although ive heard plenty of stories of the modern day suburban GI Joe giving the soft point of bullets the ol' crissCross with a pocket knife,...those stories always seem to have the same outcome of some out of this world increase in power that results in the animals limbs being blown all the way China... :roll:

Never seen it strangely enough... :unknown: :?

I wonder...did you experiment with the same bullet on same target in its unaltered state...?

If standard hunting ranges with 22 cals,, i wouldnt think a little damage to the tip would make much diff to accuracy....you know--sorta 150yd bunny headshots...

Ive shot 50g Zmax that had various ranges of damage due to having pulled them from cases id previously loaded...& they still removed the heads of bunny's out to 120 quite satisfactorily & still with a lovely note to the loud "pop"...
Admittedly they were reduced loads, but ive also tried them in full loads with no difference in group sizes for a .8" moa grouping load/rifle combo...

Would want to be careful how big game you shoot with them if they overly frangible--wouldnt want a roo or deer to run off with a hole in side of its head...(im just stating the obvious there-not suggesting you'd do it).
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Post by TassieTiger » 21 Feb 2020, 2:43 pm

No Stix, this wasn’t me, this was an invited guest who was just experimenting - I don’t know him very well, but he seems to really hate water melons...
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Post by TassieTiger » 21 Feb 2020, 2:50 pm

No Stix, this wasn’t me, this was an invited guest who was just experimenting - I don’t know him very well, but he seems to really hate water melons...
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Post by bladeracer » 21 Feb 2020, 2:58 pm

Yep, mainly with the 6.5x55mm 139gn Norma steel-jacketed FMJ. Filed them to a flat soft point, drilled then to a hollow point, even pulled them and seated them backwards. Also drilled holes in the old Winchester. 22WMR flat-point FMJ. I've drilled .22LR, both solids and to make hollow-points bigger, but came to the conclusion that soft lead round-nose bullets are just as effective on live targets as cavernous hollow-points. I've also pulled the bullets and fired them backwards, and even had a trick of bending the bullet back and forth until the case mouth cut the heal off in the case. I used these to shoot rats in the trees around the house. The bullet was probably lighter than .177" air-rifle pellets, but I'll have do some again and see how fast they go :-)

I have experimented with drilling centrefire cast bullets, but no serious testing, just trying to get hard-cast bullets more conducive to deformation.
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Post by TassieTiger » 21 Feb 2020, 3:31 pm

It opens a possible avenue to things I’ve never even thought of...nor taken into account.
Drilling the projectile obviously lightens it and more speed should theoretically result but who knows wtf at distance...
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Post by Bill » 21 Feb 2020, 3:59 pm

I pull the plastic tips out of 257 cal Blitzkings to make 257 Bobcats so that fit the rotary mag in my Ruger :lol: :drinks:

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Post by Bugman » 21 Feb 2020, 4:04 pm

No. Not for me. I guess I am too conventional
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Post by TassieTiger » 21 Feb 2020, 4:05 pm

Bill wrote:I pull the plastic tips out of 257 cal Blitzkings to make 257 Bobcats so that fit the rotary mag in my Ruger :lol: :drinks:

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Do you then melt the tips, to form a trigger for your M18 - :sarcasm:
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Post by Bill » 21 Feb 2020, 4:53 pm

Phhark I didnt even think of that Tassietigger, I could even make a few for you, what rifle trigger do you require :lol: :drinks:
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Post by SCJ429 » 21 Feb 2020, 8:55 pm

bladeracer wrote:Yep, mainly with the 6.5x55mm 139gn Norma steel-jacketed FMJ. Filed them to a flat soft point, drilled then to a hollow point, even pulled them and seated them backwards. Also drilled holes in the old Winchester. 22WMR flat-point FMJ. I've drilled .22LR, both solids and to make hollow-points bigger, but came to the conclusion that soft lead round-nose bullets are just as effective on live targets as cavernous hollow-points. I've also pulled the bullets and fired them backwards, and even had a trick of bending the bullet back and forth until the case mouth cut the heal off in the case. I used these to shoot rats in the trees around the house. The bullet was probably lighter than .177" air-rifle pellets, but I'll have do some again and see how fast they go :-)

I have experimented with drilling centrefire cast bullets, but no serious testing, just trying to get hard-cast bullets more conducive to deformation.


Seating bullets back to front can lead to increased pressure when firing. Need to be careful doing that.
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Post by Wm.Traynor » 21 Feb 2020, 9:31 pm

FWIW,
Back in the Olden Daze :lol: there was the Goerg Hollow Pointer mainly for pistol bullets and now, I believe that Forster makes a tool.
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Post by Stix » 21 Feb 2020, 9:44 pm

Gees Bill... :shock:

I dont think thats what they had in mind when they said "shoot a bucket"... :?
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Post by bigpete » 22 Feb 2020, 4:26 am

257 bobcat.....interest piqued
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Post by Bill » 22 Feb 2020, 9:31 am

bigpete its just what I called the ammo that had tips pulled for the Ruger 256 :thumbsup:
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Post by Oldbloke » 22 Feb 2020, 10:42 am

This pic is old and not the best. Out of my old 3030 LHS 175gr cast RHS Same bullet but drilled out. If you look closely you can see the hole top right. Not a lot of difference after impact. I think shot into a stack phone books as there is a pic of them as well. They would have been gas checked but range & speed NFI.

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Post by CAVEMAN » 22 Feb 2020, 5:06 pm

I received quite an amount of ex IDF 7.62 that a mate bought way back that the had ground the tip down to expose the lead core. They grouped actually not to bad and he claimed that they were great pig rounds when he used to be able to buy surplus cases of 7.62 for next to nothing. Bit of work with a bench grinder and FMJ turned into soft points.
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