Cheapest bullets in 30-30 and 270 cal

[mickb]

Fellas any idea what the cheapest bulk options are for the above in standard jacketed bullets?

[targetshooter900]

PPU is often the cheapest of all manufacturers, and despite that is still pretty good.

[mickb]

bullets, not loaded ammo. Does PPU do projectiles?

[bladeracer]

Fellas any idea what the cheapest bulk options are for the above in standard jacketed bullets?

I don't think I've seen bulk offerings in .30-30 or .277" bullets.
Probably the cheapest jacketed bullet I can think of is the Speer 100gn Plinker RN, which does shoot okay in my rifle. I think they're around $30/100.
https://www.rebelgunworks.com.au/collec ... oint-100pk

Berry's do some .30-cal hardcast and copper-plated bullets that shoot well for me - don't think they do .277" though. I don't shoot any .277" cartridges but I do have some .277" bullets for trying in shot-out 6.5mm milsurps. I also have a mould for casting .278" bullets for the same purpose. I find the Speer Hot-Cor is a good reasonably cheap bullet in most calibers.

[bladeracer]

bullets, not loaded ammo. Does PPU do projectiles?

PPU do offer some bullets, but I wouldn't know where you'd find them in Oz.

[in2anity]

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[SCJ429]

That is funny Caveman......

The same funshop sell 270 Speer TNT in boxes of 650 pieces. These are a highly frangable jacketed bullet that are extremely accurate for a budget bullet. I have used a 7mm version to shoot deer and goats out to 400 metres.

[in2anity]

We all make mistakes.

[SCJ429]

We all make mistakes.

Do copper washed lead slugs qualify as a jacketed bullet? What are they like to shoot?

[in2anity]

Do copper washed lead slugs qualify as a jacketed bullet? What are they like to shoot?

Nah not really tbh. But they are a true midpoint between lead and jacketed. Those particular Berrys pills over a semi-reduced load are unusually accurate out of all of my Marlin 30/30s, which are microgrooves and ballard - as accurate as you're likely to ever get IMO. They are quite consistent to 200m, haven't tried further. Like hard-lead, I doubt they'd be much good as a hunting pill though, if that's what mickb wants them for.

[bladeracer]

We all make mistakes.

Do copper washed lead slugs qualify as a jacketed bullet? What are they like to shoot?

Berry's are not copper-wash, they are copper-plated, copper-wash is just a lube used on .22LR or other low-velocity bullets.
Plating is closer to a jacket but not as sturdy. An engineered jacket can vary the thickness and strength of the jacket around the bullet, plating is the same thickness all over, including within the hollow point cavity.

[bladeracer]

Do copper washed lead slugs qualify as a jacketed bullet? What are they like to shoot?

Nah not really tbh. But they are a true midpoint between lead and jacketed. Those particular Berrys pills over a semi-reduced load are unusually accurate out of all of my Marlin 30/30s, which are microgrooves and ballard - as accurate as you're likely to ever get IMO. They are quite consistent to 200m, haven't tried further. Like hard-lead, I doubt they'd be much good as a hunting pill though, if that's what mickb wants them for.

Agreed, Berry's Copper-Plated bullets shoot very well for me in everything, .38, .357, .44, .30-30, .303, .30-06 and 7.62x54R. Virtually on par with jacketed bullets.
But they are a hardcast bullet with very little deformation capability, I would treat them as FMJ for live game purposes.

[mickb]

Berrys would probably serve in the 30-30 if they are a 2000fps bullet. The 270 would be after proper jacketed.

[SCJ429]

Is there two different processes for copper wash and copper plating? I thought they were the same electroplating process for lead projectiles. The 22 rimfire lead bullets are put into a copper solution and an electric charge makes the copper atoms cover the lead. This would be the same process for the Berry slugs wouldn't it?

[bladeracer]

Is there two different processes for copper wash and copper plating? I thought they were the same electroplating process for lead projectiles. The 22 rimfire lead bullets are put into a copper solution and an electric charge makes the copper atoms cover the lead. This would be the same process for the Berry slugs wouldn't it?

Not the same from what I've seen, copper-plating is much tougher than a wash, virtually as tough as a copper jacket.

[bladeracer]

Berrys would probably serve in the 30-30 if they are a 2000fps bullet. The 270 would be after proper jacketed.

If you only want cheap plinking bullets then I'd grab some boxes of the 100gn RN Plinker.
I haven't chronoed them in the .30-06, but I shoot Berry's 123gn .311" CP at 1700fps in .30-06 with excellent accuracy.
In the .30-30 I have only used the 150gn Berry's and the 100gn Plinker at sub-1200fps.

[SCJ429]

At some pistol competitions they have banned jacketed bullets because they are tough and may ricochet but copper washed, or plated bullets are allowed. The copper wash is about 0.15 mm thick but jacketed bullets can be between 0.5 to 1mm thick. I have never tried these types of projectiles, I might give them a go.

[bladeracer]

At some pistol competitions they have banned jacketed bullets because they are tough and may ricochet but copper washed, or plated bullets are allowed. The copper wash is about 0.15 mm thick but jacketed bullets can be between 0.5 to 1mm thick. I have never tried these types of projectiles, I might give them a go.

Do they allow painted or powdercoated bullets?

[bladeracer]

At some pistol competitions they have banned jacketed bullets because they are tough and may ricochet but copper washed, or plated bullets are allowed. The copper wash is about 0.15 mm thick but jacketed bullets can be between 0.5 to 1mm thick. I have never tried these types of projectiles, I might give them a go.

Berry's copper plating is .0035" (.09mm) minimum up to .008" (.20mm) on higher-velocity bullets.

[vmaxaust]

Berrys would probably serve in the 30-30 if they are a 2000fps bullet. The 270 would be after proper jacketed.

Have you considered cast bullets with Hi Tek coating? I cast my own 138gr spitzer type bullet for 300BLK for use in Ruger Ranch and Warwick rifles. I have zero leading without gas checks and load them with ADI 2205 to achieve 1850fps out of the 16.5" Ruger. No reason these coated bullets won't work to at least 2000fps. I'm only using these to 100 to a maximum of 150 meters and accuracy at those distances is easily as good as a Sierra 135gr jacketed bullet. I size them to .3095"-.310".
I also have a mould to make a flat top version (with about 150gr weight) rather than spitzer which would be ideal for a lever gun. Have not tried those yet. Locked down.

[Ziege]

at my LGS I have a yarn with them, if im buying multiple boxes regardless of calibre they tend to do a good deal for me, the cheapest rounds Ive bought for my 270 is $20 for PPU 130gn soft nose, and cheapest for federal is $30 for 130gn power shock, hornady and everything else tends to float around the $35 and upward mark,

[bladeracer]

at my LGS I have a yarn with them, if im buying multiple boxes regardless of calibre they tend to do a good deal for me, the cheapest rounds Ive bought for my 270 is $20 for PPU 130gn soft nose, and cheapest for federal is $30 for 130gn power shock, hornady and everything else tends to float around the $35 and upward mark,

This thread is about bullets, not ammunition.

[bigrich]

Fellas any idea what the cheapest bulk options are for the above in standard jacketed bullets?

mate , i've had good results with speer projectiles and they are well priced . 170 gn speers shot very accurately in a 30-30 i had with ar2208 , and 140 speer hot cores shoot very well in a 6.5x55 i have . check "rebel gun works" website under reloading for price comparisons as it's a easy site to use/navigate . hope this helps

[Ziege]

at my LGS I have a yarn with them, if im buying multiple boxes regardless of calibre they tend to do a good deal for me, the cheapest rounds Ive bought for my 270 is $20 for PPU 130gn soft nose, and cheapest for federal is $30 for 130gn power shock, hornady and everything else tends to float around the $35 and upward mark,

This thread is about bullets, not ammunition.

Mustve misread above. was under the impression OP wanted whole ammunition.

I use SST and Speers for cheap lead and copper.

[JohnS]

I might have what your're looking for. Taipan 150gr FN and Speer and Hornady light 277cal projectiles,