Is Australia heading for an AMMO/Reloading shortage?

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Post by wanneroo » 21 Aug 2020, 12:28 pm

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This. Its the 22 cal shortage all over again - remember that a few years back? Couldn't get rimfire rounds for love nor money as the doomsday preppers gobbled them all up. Insanity.

I can't blame the companies, you need the realestate as well as capital to make a line open. Why do that when you can just hire more employees and look good to the public while still turning a huge profit on your pre-existing equipment?

Things where I am aren't too crazy so I'm happy sitting on what I've got for the moment.

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That was one of the more bizarre things of the 2013-2014 panic was the desire for people to horde tens of thousands of rounds of .22LR, sometimes more.

I tried to talk some sense into folks, I shot smallbore rifle as a national level competitor, we shot 2-3 hours a day, 5 days a week. Even then I probably only used 20K rounds of 22LR a year.

I did a search around online on some of the big US online ammo sellers and there is 22 available but it is typically expensive match grade ammo. All the usual stuff like CCI is long gone.
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Post by Blr243 » 21 Aug 2020, 2:40 pm

The mention of shooting 20;000 per year in a 22 ....prompts me to ask , how often do u have to rebarrel a 22?
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Post by Blr243 » 21 Aug 2020, 2:41 pm

The mention of shooting 20;000 per year in a 22 ....prompts me to ask , how often do u have to rebarrel a 22?
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Post by TassieTiger » 21 Aug 2020, 2:52 pm

Just be because it’s a message about .22 doesn’t mean you have to post .22 times ? Get it. Lolz. Just kidding BLR. I’ve gone it a hundred times myself, when reply hangs.

I haven’t heard of a worn out .23 barrel. My grandfathers jw15 born in the 60’s has had an enormous amount of firings and it still shoots moa of rabbit.
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Post by bladeracer » 21 Aug 2020, 2:53 pm

Blr243 wrote:The mention of shooting 20;000 per year in a 22 ....prompts me to ask , how often do u have to rebarrel a 22?


I saw something about a target rifle that surpassed one-million rounds a few years back.
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Post by Oldbloke » 21 Aug 2020, 3:28 pm

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Blr243 wrote:The mention of shooting 20;000 per year in a 22 ....prompts me to ask , how often do u have to rebarrel a 22?


I saw something about a target rifle that surpassed one-million rounds a few years back.



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Post by Bugman » 21 Aug 2020, 4:18 pm

Yes. I try to plan ahead and have enough components for, say, at least 6 months of shooting, for either out on the paddock or home on the range. My regular supplier is not too concerned, but if I go into his place of business and find him in the corner dribbling, I definitely know that a shortage is on the cards. :unknown:
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Post by bignose88 » 21 Aug 2020, 5:13 pm

Was at the shop again, half less 22lr ammo since yesterday.... once Melbourne opens up again all that stock on the shelves will be flying off because there aint no more stock coming back on for awhile.
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Post by Bill » 21 Aug 2020, 5:21 pm

bignose88 wrote:So far this year with everything that is happening are we heading for an AMMO/Reloading shortage? People from Ozziereviews to Shooting Stuff Australia are warning us saying that this Ammo shortage is ALREADY upon us and potentially long term. The Aussie and the world economy is up s**t creek and it's looking it may take many years to recover, people are saying we are in a ressesion and a growing minotiry are saying we are already in a depression. What doesn't help is that the Americans are stocking up on supplies which will cause the price to go up and that is assuming we can even get new stock into Australia. Everyone I have spoken with who own firearm stores are telling me things will only get worse especially for AMMO and Reloading/Powder etc.

What are your thoughts, are you stocking up?

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Im am unaware that shops are having trouble restocking. Yes the sky is falling in type believed the Covid 19 rumours and over bought ammo thus stripping shelves. This happened during a low point in the Aus $$ and when shops restocked they got jacked up prices. My local GS sold more than 12 tonnes of ammo in a week because retards believed the sky was falling in........ it hasnt. :drinks:
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Post by Blr243 » 21 Aug 2020, 6:14 pm

My first 32 a gevarm semi was I think 30 yrs old before it was given to me .....I was only 15 I think and Was on ten acres with houses al around It’s amazeing nobody Called the police ....things were so different 35 years ago
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Post by wanneroo » 22 Aug 2020, 1:57 am

Blr243 wrote:The mention of shooting 20;000 per year in a 22 ....prompts me to ask , how often do u have to rebarrel a 22?


Never. I mostly used a post WW2 Harrington and Richardson action that probably was barreled with a heavy barrel in the 1960s or 70s and also at times an Anschutz rifle. The H&R also had a custom stock and weighed about 18-19 pounds as I remember.
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Post by wanneroo » 23 Aug 2020, 6:02 am

So apparently one of the top online stores for reloading components in the USA says the primer shortage is due to all the primers being devoted to factory ammunition production leaving almost none left over for reloaders. A box of a 1000 primers here in the USA are now hitting $300 a box.

I should have filled up my ammo cans with primers as an "investment", all well. I think I probably have about 20-25K but should have bought more.
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Post by JimTom » 23 Aug 2020, 7:48 am

As people have already eluded to, buy in bulk when the specials are on. Saves a ton of cash and also future proofs you against these shortages if they occur.
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Re: Is Australia heading for an AMMO/Reloading shortage?

Post by Blr243 » 23 Aug 2020, 9:33 am

So now With all this concern about primer supply I gotta go get me a flintlock , and mine my own supply of flints, or go back to pointed sticks propelled by strings
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Post by Bill » 23 Aug 2020, 10:03 am

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Well, well...how unusual. Why don’t you post up the name of your local William - you know, so someone can call up and uncover the actual truth for that shop ?


not hard to work out that Sydney has large gunshops TT, it aint rocket science sunshine.

PPU brass and ammo is brought into OZ in limited supply, I enquired earlier this year regarding unavaible 6.5 Grendel PPU and was told to order 10,000 rounds and they would bring it in next year.

' The minimum order requirement for any calibre of PPU is 10,000 rounds and orders are submitted twelve months in advance.'

Surely there are other brands of 300 brass worthy of your attention :lol: :sarcasm:
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Post by Bill » 23 Aug 2020, 10:06 am

JimTom wrote:As people have already eluded to, buy in bulk when the specials are on. Saves a ton of cash and also future proofs you against these shortages if they occur.


This above, Ive got 2000 50gr Nosler BT on back order due at the end of month, will save about 40% of the normal RRP Shop price :thumbsup:
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Post by bladeracer » 23 Aug 2020, 10:31 am

Bill wrote:
JimTom wrote:As people have already eluded to, buy in bulk when the specials are on. Saves a ton of cash and also future proofs you against these shortages if they occur.


This above, Ive got 2000 50gr Nosler BT on back order due at the end of month, will save about 40% of the normal RRP Shop price :thumbsup:


Yep, I've bought tens of thousands of bullets and brass at crazy prices when they're dumped on special.
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Post by TassieTiger » 23 Aug 2020, 11:10 am

They’ve current got some calibre in Lapua - 30-40% off...I paid $220 for 260 2 months back, $160 at present...
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Post by Blr243 » 23 Aug 2020, 1:15 pm

Who is it sorry that has lap brass on special at the moment?
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Post by bigrich » 25 Aug 2020, 5:54 pm

I think i've seen those adaptors down at my local gun shop "browns plains firearms" , if i remember blade i'll see if they got them in stock for ya :thumbsup:
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Post by bladeracer » 25 Aug 2020, 6:21 pm

Please do. I can buy the un-rifled short adaptors easily, but they're as expensive as the longer Chiappa rifled ones.
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Post by wrenchman » 26 Aug 2020, 8:53 am

i was talking to a dealer and ammo seller in windsor ontario across the river from me that said he had ammo and primers but could not sell them to me becouse i dont have a gun lic for over there i might have to see what i need to do to lic one of my guns to go there to hunt so i can buy some
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Post by bignose88 » 28 Aug 2020, 12:27 pm

Primers hit $300-$350 US
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Post by Tiger650 » 02 Sep 2020, 9:39 pm

Four months back we escaped the Southern Socialist Republic to retire in Albury, a close run [prescient ?] thing given time to sell the Melbourne home and buy here.
The local gun shop is excellent compared to what is in Melbourne, Elks do not know me from a bar of soap but when I call I identify myself by name and ask politely re stock.
Staff identify themselves by given name when answering the 'phone and when I arrive the goods have been set aside for me.
The key to engaging with folks is be polite, almost universally that approach is naturally reciprocated by local people.
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Post by bignose88 » 16 Sep 2020, 3:18 pm

Tiger650 wrote:Four months back we escaped the Southern Socialist Republic to retire in Albury, a close run [prescient ?] thing given time to sell the Melbourne home and buy here.
The local gun shop is excellent compared to what is in Melbourne, Elks do not know me from a bar of soap but when I call I identify myself by name and ask politely re stock.
Staff identify themselves by given name when answering the 'phone and when I arrive the goods have been set aside for me.
The key to engaging with folks is be polite, almost universally that approach is naturally reciprocated by local people.
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Lucky you left at the right time.



How is everyone's local stores supplies going? Can you still get what you need?
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Post by rc42 » 17 Sep 2020, 6:04 pm

Everything still seems to be available here in QLD, prices are going up as dealers get new stock in but that was expected anyway.

I think there will be a lag and we'll get hit with some shortages in a few months time when the wholesale importers don't receive shipments because they've been redirected tot he US and sold at twice the price.

Only the wholesales really know the stock levels in Australia, the rate that dealers are making orders and the availability of the next imports so they could predict an upcoming shortage (and by predicting it, make it happen), the rest of us are just guessing.
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Post by gilmc » 25 Oct 2020, 3:35 pm

Hi all. I’m in Canberra and can not get BM2 or 8208 in Canberra, Braidwood or Goulburn and no one has been able to tell me when it will be available. Does anyone know or heard when these powders will become available again? So frustrating, I got a new .223 rifle and after months of testing loads I finally found that my rifle performs best with BM2 and before anyone suggests I try 2206h or BM1, I have and with multiple projectiles.
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Post by Ziege » 25 Oct 2020, 5:05 pm

being in WA and I havent been able to get 2209 or 2206H or 2208 for months now.
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Re: Is Australia heading for an AMMO/Reloading shortage?

Post by Blr243 » 25 Oct 2020, 5:52 pm

I don’t range shoot. Only in the field so with factory ammo , reloads and stored powder I probably have Comfortably at least 5 years supply Hopefully this shortage and uncertainty will b sorted well before then
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Post by FNQ » 24 Jan 2021, 7:13 pm

How’s everyone’s ammo prices now?
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